Who do you think hates America?

[jack3]

This thread is not about trump unless you are saying the prosecution of trump is driven by hate for America and an effort to destroy America. Please stay on subject.

You're not a very good mod of your own thread.

For example, drag queen story hour is destructive. Do you favor drag queen story hour?

 

[Natural Citizen]

Sure seems that way.
Throwing us into debt, to pay for other countries wars. Make us world enemy number 1.
Spend so much money, they ruin our currency.
No accountability in govt.
They go against our principles DAILY. If that doesnt scream you dont care for america, idk what does.
So, yes, it sure seems that way.

It seems that way because it is that way.

 

[BULLDOG]

Frankly your OP is very complex and suffers a major problem with the thesis. It ASSUMES we hate America. We as a collective do not hate this country. We do not believe the Congress managed by Democrats gets it right.

Give you some examples. Many Americans simply do not want a thing to do with wars. Even when wars are made against this country, particular groups are against defense of this country. They might think the good came from the enemy. Such as today posters see Gaza as good and Israel as bad. All the Jews have done is defend their country.
Controversy is in your OP. Created as a truth. That citizens hate America. We can't deny such as the Gaza issue proves some do hate America. But many do not like policies shoved at us all the time by the Democrats as an example.

No. I assume nothing. I just pointed out that claims of hating and wanting to destroy America are quite common. and asked if readers actually believed that to be the case.

 

[TNHarley]

So spending money is an effort to destroy the country, or just spending on things you don't want? You understand both parties spend tons of money, and it generally takes both parties to pass a spend bill, don't you?

They way they do it? Indeed it is. They have just about finished off our currency.
Yes, thats why I said "duopoly" and "the two main parties"

 

[BULLDOG]

Maybe this thread should have started with defining hate.

Not my job. The claim is quite common. Do you really believe your political opponent actually hates America, and their goal is to destroy it?

 

[Stryder50]

Politics can get heated, and I can understand that opposing parties could think the other party's goals might not be the best for the country, but that's not how the rhetoric is playing out. "You hate America" and " You want to destroy the country" have become common accusations. Of course, there are terrorists that fit both descriptions, but do you really think any of our politicians, or the other party actually embrace that kind of goal? Please identify anyone, other than terrorists, who you believe actually hates our country, and tell why you think that person or those people actually hate America and want to destroy the country. This kind of rhetoric can only separate us further and hurt our country.
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Taking a spin from you post #69 here, this OP is both a very complex question and a rather vague and diffuse one.

Would really help to concur on definitions of Hate and Destroy with regards to the USA (America), because reading through here it seems there are differing definitions and use ~ implications.

For a start one needs to consider the nature of this land two and a half centuries ago when this nation was founded. The social, economic, and government context of how the thirteen colonies got started and the issues they had with mother country, Britain. Also some context of the rest of the world then and also the other European colonizers and their colonies.

250 years ago, the majority of working Americans were farmers who grew most of their own food, and made many of their tools and utensils. And traded for what they wanted/needed but could not provide themselves. The Industrial Age of factories and huge urban populations was in an unforeseen future.

Review your USA history of the time and the issues included taxation without representation (in Parliament), excessive customs duties and fees, restrictions on trade with other nations/lands, assorted infringements upon personal Rights, Liberties, Property, access to Prosperity, unfair treatment in legal and court cases, and many other issues. So start by a thorough read and study of the Declaration of Independence and one gets some scope on what the issues were and why things lead to a War of Independence (from Britain).

The Constitution, drafted with much debate and wrangling, was an effort to form a system of government that would address and correct for the deficiencies, abuses, and issues presented in the Declaration of Independence. Note that since this is nearly a century before Karl Marx and other socialist/communists "thinkers", the Founders are coming from a perspective of self sufficient population; very little need for charities systems (social welfare); need for a reduced, limited, and restricted government; and support of the Free Enterprise, 'Capitalist' economy that was in effect at the time.

To put it loosely then, anyone who objects to the reasons present in the DoI, and the form of government it evolved into, might be thought of as "hating" America, and/or wanting to "destroy" America by applying fundamental change to the Constitution, method of government, and profit focused free enterprise economy.

I have to run errands, might get back here later.

 

[tshrimp]

Apparently you are no fan of America if you keep pushing the racist lie of Obama being Kenyan.

 

[BULLDOG]

It really came to the fore with The Halfrican administration.

If you think on it everything American has stood for as far as traditional values was tuned on it's head. It all started with that "beer summit" BS and went rapidly downhill from there.

Obama and his wide-assed Wookie wife hates America.....You can easily see Obama's influence in FJB's administration.

Remember this in 2015?

So different colored lights is a sign of hate for America? Why do you think they have such hate for America, and want to destroy it?

 

[BULLDOG]

What kind of change?

You'll have to ask the above poster who said change was a sign of hate for the country.

 

[dblack]

Politics can get heated, and I can understand that opposing parties could think the other party's goals might not be the best for the country, but that's not how the rhetoric is playing out. "You hate America" and " You want to destroy the country" have become common accusations. Of course, there are terrorists that fit both descriptions, but do you really think any of our politicians, or the other party actually embrace that kind of goal? Please identify anyone, other than terrorists, who you believe actually hates our country, and tell why you think that person or those people actually hate America and want to destroy the country. This kind of rhetoric can only separate us further and hurt our country.

Agreed. The two-party fear machine has gone full retard.

Just say no.

 

[Robert W]

Did you think all of trump's tax cuts and other changes were a sign that he hates America, and an effort to destroy it?

Here is where you go to taxes as an issue. #19 post today.

Trump's so called cuts were done because the two parties agreed to cut taxes.
Many Americans got a break. Not clear who you are discussing by efforts to destroy the nation. I like to talk more about destroying the population of this country and giving lots of examples where Democrats did that a lot.

 

[Stryder50]

Do you think your opposing party hates America and wants to destroy it?

If their agenda and goal is to alter, change the fundamental purpose expressed in the origins, and the intended direction from such, then it's likely they don't like or want an America as it was meant to be, has been, and was intended to develop into.

Since they seek to undermine the for-profit capitalist economy; hinder free speech; violate the laws, especially regards illegal immigration; and as expressed recently "fundamentally change" America, then the answer to both would be "YES"!

 

[Mac-7]

Politics can get heated, and I can understand that opposing parties could think the other party's goals might not be the best for the country, but that's not how the rhetoric is playing out. "You hate America" and " You want to destroy the country" have become common accusations. Of course, there are terrorists that fit both descriptions, but do you really think any of our politicians, or the other party actually embrace that kind of goal? Please identify anyone, other than terrorists, who you believe actually hates our country, and tell why you think that person or those people actually hate America and want to destroy the country. This kind of rhetoric can only separate us further and hurt our country.
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I see the tendency to hate America on the left

Some libs go all the way back to Columbus and the discovery of the New World and begin their hate fest there

 

[1srelluc]

So different colored lights is a sign of hate for America? Why do you think they have such hate for America, and want to destroy it?

It's just my take on the deterioration of American values pushed by leftist dems.....One example of many.

 

[BULLDOG]

Why should people die for those who are fascists with many inferior to them? Empowerment accumulates arrogance, obnoxiousness and ignorance with self-importance. Progs are pure fascists. No other views allowed in our so-called democracy. And of course, there are stupid asses who screw with others and get away with who work with the empowered as well as those who are not charged with crimes that we have seen over the last several years.

Not sure what that has to do with whether you think your political opponent hates America and has a goal to destroy it.

 

[Stryder50]

Apparently you are no fan of America if you keep pushing the racist lie of Obama being Kenyan.

His father being a Kenyan citizen, that would mean Obama had a dual citizenship.
Evidence seems fairly clear he was born in USA, Hawaii.

 

[Stryder50]

Every sucessful organization or country changes when necessary.

Issues are who decides the necessary and what it is ...
Who decides the nature of the change ????

 

[22lcidw]

Not sure what that has to do with whether you think your political opponent hates America and has a goal to destroy it.

America First means our wealth comes first.

 

[BULLDOG]

You.

I don't hate my country where I was born and raised, and I certainly don't want to destroy the only life I have ever known but thank you for a direct answer anyway.

 

[Stryder50]

Who hates America?

Right wing extremists.

Right Wing Extremists tend to be Constitutionalists and object to legal and policy deviations from It.