Debate Now Who are the serious debaters on this forum?

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

You claim you are being respectful, then you end your comment with an insult. ;

That, sir, makes you a liar.

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No, actually, it makes him sound more like a leftist demoncrat.




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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Then don't expect me to respect your garbage.
When I call you out as a liar, respect that you are lying.
OR
Don't lie.

Look at you...

You are here defending lying.
Only in MAGADUMIA.

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Ahhhhhhh......................

The clever word maker. Here's your award.

That and $10 will get you a frothy coffee drink at starbucks.

Great post.




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[Natural Citizen]

You claim you are being respectful, then you end your comment with an insult. ;

Oh, you were insulted? Hmm. I dunno. I suppose a feller might be inclined to become upset at the thought of being met with himself, when politely offered one to grow on.

Ah well. If only your feelings were of concern to me...

That, sir, makes you a liar.

 

[pknopp]

Projection!

Tell me....with examples would be great. What politics do you see me as pushing?

 

[BackAgain]

You claim you are being respectful, then you end your comment with an insult. ;

That, sir, makes you a liar.

Cry some more. That’s fine argument, DumpHole.

 

[Mac-7]

then why are you here?

You asked for our opinion

 

[Rumpole]

You asked for our opinion

No, I asked 'who are the serious debators on this forum'

Clearly, you are not one of them.

At least now I know.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I'm pretty sure no one came here, to this board, for structured debate...

I do. I come on here to use my brain, to learn things by having a reason to look at what's happening, to make my argument, to change it if it doesn't work.

 

[frigidweirdo]

No, I asked 'who are the serious debators on this forum'

Clearly, you are not one of them.

At least now I know.

He's on my ignore list, so almost certainly not.

 

[Mac-7]

No, I asked 'who are the serious debators on this forum'

Clearly, you are not one of them.

At least now I know.

Your idea of debate does not interest normal people

 

[Rumpole]

Your idea of debate does not interest normal people

Your opinion does not have merit.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A number of persons on this forum do not understand how to frame an argument.

But, some of you do.

the non serious ones make wild claims, vacuous claims without substantiating them.

When asked to substantiate, I often get a snarky 'you do it'. No, the onus is always on the the ones making claims to substantiate their claims. You cannot ask others to do your work for you. That never has been the etiquette in any forum I've ever heard of and I've been on many going back to the 90s, the days of Usenet.

I will always substantiate my claim, if it exists. If it doesn't, I'll be happy to say 'it's just my opinion'. Opinions are okay, just make sure you make it clear that that is what they are. If you are making a claim of fact, then substantiate it to the best you can, and offer a path of reasoning for it, to the best that you can. See, to substantiate could just mean to supplement yuor claim, though proving it would be even better, but at least supplement it with something, or at the very minimum, a well reasoned path of logic and naming some well known examples, that would be okay.

But a wild claim, short sentence, 'Biden family are criminals' without evidence, that's not an argument. To say, 'it's in the news', that's not substantiation. A link would suffice. We could then debate the link, sure, but at least provide something, and the more, the merrier. It's called 'moving the debate forward'. Comments that do not move the debate forward are non arguments. Arguments and counter arguments move the debate forward. It's not complicated.

the non serious engage in ad hominems. The attack the source or the messenger and not the message. (yes, I've done this myself, but I would love to argue on a forum that doesn't allow it).

They who do not know how to debate do not engage in a real argument, they riddle their comments with rant words, weasel words, words of emotion and sentiment, engage in petty name calling, and wild claims without substance to them, and do not understand what a real argument is, and they do not understand the difference between an opinion and an argument, the difference between a non argument and a real argument.

For example:

Conservatives are morons. Liberals are idiots.

No, those are not arguments. Those are rants, they are sentiments, weasel words, ad homs, non arguments. Got it?

But, if I wrote: AOC's 'new deal' has issues, which are as follows (list them ) which is supported by (link to authoritative sources which supplement the argument [which, by the way, is not a violation of the 'appeals to authority' logical fallacy, because it's supplementation, not reliance upon] ).

That would be an argument. No snarky quips, no hate-AOC remarks, etc. Real arguments aren't supposed to be impressive by clever word use designed to get likes, they are supposed to be persuasive.

Who are the members of USMB who know how to debate?

Please tell me who you are and you will be the ones invited to future OPs by me on this forum. I don't care if you are right or left or something else. It's not about whether your are right or wrong, that is why we are here, to debate what is right and wrong, but some of you are disingenuous and are here only to get likes from your friends. Some of your I simply cannot take seriously. And, of course, those of you I can't take seriously will typically shoot that same claim back at me, which is, in fact, a cop out.

Who are the serious debaters? Let me know, please. PM me, if you prefer.

Please understand, I do not claim to be the god's gift to debate forums, it's not about how well we argue, I am probably even guilty of some of the sins I eschew, (but I strive, at least, not to, but, at times, it feels like I have to, with some of you) it's about how to at least adhere to a form that allows for constructive debate, and that is what I'm after.

And, another thing, we are anonymous here. All that matters is the argument, not who we are. Some are from foreign countries, it doesn't matter, all that matters is the text in the argument. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm from Texas, in case you are wondering.

Let me know, thank you.

Rumpole.

There is no ‘debate’ here – real or otherwise.

Real, actual debate would be where a liberal would argue aggressively and in good faith in support of banning abortion.

Real, actual debate would be where a conservative would argue aggressively and in good faith in support of banning AR 15s.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

A number of persons on this forum do not understand how to frame an argument.

But, some of you do.

the non serious ones make wild claims, vacuous claims without substantiating them.

When asked to substantiate, I often get a snarky 'you do it'. No, the onus is always on the the ones making claims to substantiate their claims. You cannot ask others to do your work for you. That never has been the etiquette in any forum I've ever heard of and I've been on many going back to the 90s, the days of Usenet.

I will always substantiate my claim, if it exists. If it doesn't, I'll be happy to say 'it's just my opinion'. Opinions are okay, just make sure you make it clear that that is what they are. If you are making a claim of fact, then substantiate it to the best you can, and offer a path of reasoning for it, to the best that you can. See, to substantiate could just mean to supplement yuor claim, though proving it would be even better, but at least supplement it with something, or at the very minimum, a well reasoned path of logic and naming some well known examples, that would be okay.

But a wild claim, short sentence, 'Biden family are criminals' without evidence, that's not an argument. To say, 'it's in the news', that's not substantiation. A link would suffice. We could then debate the link, sure, but at least provide something, and the more, the merrier. It's called 'moving the debate forward'. Comments that do not move the debate forward are non arguments. Arguments and counter arguments move the debate forward. It's not complicated.

the non serious engage in ad hominems. The attack the source or the messenger and not the message. (yes, I've done this myself, but I would love to argue on a forum that doesn't allow it).

They who do not know how to debate do not engage in a real argument, they riddle their comments with rant words, weasel words, words of emotion and sentiment, engage in petty name calling, and wild claims without substance to them, and do not understand what a real argument is, and they do not understand the difference between an opinion and an argument, the difference between a non argument and a real argument.

For example:

Conservatives are morons. Liberals are idiots.

No, those are not arguments. Those are rants, they are sentiments, weasel words, ad homs, non arguments. Got it?

But, if I wrote: AOC's 'new deal' has issues, which are as follows (list them ) which is supported by (link to authoritative sources which supplement the argument [which, by the way, is not a violation of the 'appeals to authority' logical fallacy, because it's supplementation, not reliance upon] ).

That would be an argument. No snarky quips, no hate-AOC remarks, etc. Real arguments aren't supposed to be impressive by clever word use designed to get likes, they are supposed to be persuasive.

Who are the members of USMB who know how to debate?

Please tell me who you are and you will be the ones invited to future OPs by me on this forum. I don't care if you are right or left or something else. It's not about whether your are right or wrong, that is why we are here, to debate what is right and wrong, but some of you are disingenuous and are here only to get likes from your friends. Some of your I simply cannot take seriously. And, of course, those of you I can't take seriously will typically shoot that same claim back at me, which is, in fact, a cop out.

Who are the serious debaters? Let me know, please. PM me, if you prefer.

Please understand, I do not claim to be the god's gift to debate forums, it's not about how well we argue, I am probably even guilty of some of the sins I eschew, (but I strive, at least, not to, but, at times, it feels like I have to, with some of you) it's about how to at least adhere to a form that allows for constructive debate, and that is what I'm after.

And, another thing, we are anonymous here. All that matters is the argument, not who we are. Some are from foreign countries, it doesn't matter, all that matters is the text in the argument. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm from Texas, in case you are wondering.

Let me know, thank you.

Rumpole.

Dante

 

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Dante

In the Bull Ring and a few other places, Dante was one of the most serious debaters. But the trolls always intervene. And in the Bull Ring there were a few demented members who posed as sane until a debate got under way -- and whooie! Crazy Town.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Funny

Reactions: jc456 and OhPleaseJustQuit

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Should Dante challenge TNHarley to a Bull Ring debate on Israel, HAMAS, Support of Terrorism?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Should Dante challenge TNHarley to a Bull Ring debate on Israel, HAMAS, Support of Terrorism?

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Dante needs a Valium.

Silent Third Person Self-Talk Facilitates Emotion Regulation

Silently talking to yourself in the third person—and using your own name during inner dialogues—facilitates emotion regulation, according to a recent neuroscience-based study.

www.psychologytoday.com

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[Procrustes Stretched]

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Dante needs a Valium.

Silent Third Person Self-Talk Facilitates Emotion Regulation

Silently talking to yourself in the third person—and using your own name during inner dialogues—facilitates emotion regulation, according to a recent neuroscience-based study.

www.psychologytoday.com

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Better for you when your tongue goes into my butthole.

 

[TNHarley]

Should Dante challenge TNHarley to a Bull Ring debate on Israel, HAMAS, Support of Terrorism?

I dont really give a shit about that.

 

[TNHarley]

Better for you when your tongue goes into my butthole.

Im calling HR