Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?

[Stryder50]

What would you call it...140 cops injured, 5 people died, fires, vandalism, looting....

Hmm?

Jan. 6 Is Looking Like a ‘Fedsurrection’​

Roger Kimball

December 20, 2021 Updated: December 28, 2021
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Commentary

Things are always worse than they seem.

That seems to be a good rule of thumb these days.

Take the FBI.

Every sentient person knows that the bureau has had a rough couple of years.

The Russia collusion hoax revealed an agency shot through with corruption and partisan bias.

But the rot goes far beyond the large handful of top bureau bad hats: the James Comeys, the Andrew McCabes, the Peter Strzoks, the Kevin Clinesmiths.

It also goes back far beyond the election of 2016.

Holman Jenkins, writing in The Wall Street Journal, lists a handful of the many shocking instances in which the agency was “hip deep” in corruption, incompetence, or some combination of the two.

His conclusion? Abolish the FBI.

“By now,” Jenkins writes, “after its performance in the 2016 election, the evidence might seem conclusive that the agency is a failed experiment, however able and dedicated many of its agents. … The agency should be scrapped and something new built to replace it.”
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This is a conclusion echoed by the storied civil-rights lawyer Harvey Silverglate.

Writing in The Boston Globe, Silverglate notes that the corruption of the FBI is “too deeply embedded for effective reform.”

“The best solution,” he concludes, “is to abolish the FBI and start anew. We need to rethink the kind of agency needed to investigate federal crimes.”

But perhaps the most shocking litany of rot at the FBI has been compiled by Darren Beattie at Revolver News, whose latest story revolves around Ray Epps, a Phoenix-based professional provocateur and, apparently, FBI asset.

Epps was originally near the top of the FBI’s list of “most wanted” figures from the Jan. 6 protest-cum-riot at the Capitol.

Then a funny thing happened.

Epps’s name was purged from the FBI files.

Some 700 people have been arrested for their part in the Jan. 6 demonstration.

But Epps and a handful of other major players in that drama remain unindicted.

Indeed, although the FBI surely knows their identity, they remain nameless to the public, known only through amateur video footage of the event.

Hence their colorful soubriquets: “ScaffoldCommander,” “FenceCutterBulwark,” “BlackSkiMask,” and so on.
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Beattie shows that what the media label an “insurrection” is almost certainly better described as a “Fedsurrection.”

And when I say “shows,” I mean shows.

His long essay doesn’t just describe what happened. It’s punctuated by scores of photos and video clips that prove the accuracy of what he describes.

We don’t know with 100 percent certainty that the figures who organized and orchestrated the breach of the Capitol did so at the instigation of federal authorities.

But it sure looks that way.

Beattie takes us step by step from the moment on Jan. 5 when Epps whipped up a crowd and told them, over vocal objections from various demonstrators, that they were going to the Capitol the next day.

Beattie shows how other actors calmly removed fences and signage on Jan. 6, clearing a path for the protesters, who were carefully funneled through that one walkway up to the Capitol.

“Okay we’re in!” shouted the man known as “Scaffold Commander,” so-called because he was perched, megaphone in hand, atop a tall tower overlooking the Capitol complex.

“We’re in!” he shouted. “Come on! We gotta fill up the Capitol! Come on! Come now! We need help. We gotta fill up the Capitol! They got in.”

Will coincidences never end? The blue and white megaphone he was using was identical to the blue and white megaphones used by other people directing the crowd.
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Jan. 6 Is Looking Like a ‘Fedsurrection’

www.theepochtimes.com

END Part One ...

 

[Stryder50]

What would you call it...140 cops injured, 5 people died, fires, vandalism, looting....

Hmm?

Part Two ...

Jan. 6 Is Looking Like a ‘Fedsurrection’​

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“What makes the ScaffoldCommander-Ray Epps affair complete,” Beattie noted, “is that they appeared to work in tandem from start to finish the entire day on 1/6.

“Both set up positions at the initial 12:50 p.m. ‘Big Bang’ breach site, and they did so before the Proud Boys arrived.

“The official story, you will recall, says that the Proud Boys group caused the riot.”

But they didn’t.

A review of the video footage shows a handful of main players that day.

None have been indicted.

Why?

The simplest explanation is that the people who took down the fences and the “restricted area” signs, who loudly directed the crowd into the Capitol, were federal assets.

Beattie is right.

“If Ray Epps was acting on instructions from a government handler from any federal agency (FBI, ATF, Pentagon, DHS, DEA, anything), we now are talking about perhaps the single most egregious caught-on-camera intelligence operation in our lifetimes.”
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Jan. 6 Is Looking Like a ‘Fedsurrection’

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[Stryder50]

Meet Ray Epps: The Fed-Protected Provocateur Who Appears To Have Led The Very First 1/6 Attack On The U.S. Capitol
October 25, 2021

Meet Ray Epps: The Fed-Protected Provocateur Who Appears to Have Led the Very First 1/6 Attack on the US Capitol - Revolver News

In order to protect the country from fictional right-wing "patriot" groups, did the FBI become an insurrectionist "patriot" movement?

www.revolver.news

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Meet Ray Epps, Part 2: Damning New Details Emerge Exposing Massive Web Of Unindicted Operators At The Heart Of January 6
December 18, 2021

Meet Ray Epps, Part 2: Damning New Details Emerge Exposing Massive Web of Unindicted Operators at the Heart of January 6 - Revolver News

Revolver blows open a network of still-unindicted operators who appear to have been intimately involved in the initial Jan. 6 Capitol breach.

www.revolver.news

 

[candycorn]

You could start with citing your sources to validate your claims. Meanwhile, here's a meaningful comparison;
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CAPITOL RIOT vs BLM RIOTS – Which Caused More Harm?​

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BLM RIOTS (aka ‘The 2020 Summer of Love’)
• 2,000 police officers injured nationwide.
• $2 BILLION in damages (largest riot damages in U.S. histor

No rioters were killed by police.
19 people were killed during just 14 days of BLM rioting.
The killing of police officers nationwide surged 28% in 2020 during the BLM riots and protests.
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CAPITOL RIOT (aka ‘The Deadly Insurrection’)
• 140 Police officers were injured.
• $1.5 million in damages (including scratches to Nancy Pelosi’s desk and podium).
• ONE unarmed rioter Ashli Babbitt was killed by the Capitol Police, with no public accountability.
• NO others were killed during the Capitol Riot. * **

*NOTE – As documented above — at the U.S. Capitol, one Capitol Police officer (Brian Sicknick) died of a stroke unrelated to his fight with rioters, and three civilians outside of the Capitol — out of tens of thousands of peaceful protesters — died of medical conditions.)
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CAPITOL RIOT vs BLM RIOTS – Which Caused More Harm?

ANALYSIS - As the establishment media, the current Biden administration, and its Democrat allies in Congress, continue to aggressively push the overwrought nar

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Except you just called it a "riot"....

Earlier you didn't...

Except I don't consider "1/6" a riot.

 

[Stryder50]

Except you just called it a "riot"....

Earlier you didn't...

"I" did not, the source I cited did.

 

[Independentthinker]

Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?​

January 5, 2022 Updated: January 11, 2022
Victor Davis Hanson is a conservative commentator, classicist, and military historian. He is a professor of classics emeritus at California State University, a senior fellow in classics and military history at Stanford University, a fellow of Hillsdale College, and a distinguished fellow of the Center for American Greatness. Hanson has written 16 books, including “The Western Way of War,” “Fields Without Dreams,” and “The Case for Trump.”
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EXCERPT (I);
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Commentary

Recently, Democrats have been despondent over President Joe Biden’s sinking poll numbers. His policies on the economy, energy, foreign policy, the border, and COVID-19 all have lost majority support.

As a result, the left now variously alleges that either in 2022, when they expect to lose the Congress, or in 2024, when they fear losing the presidency, Republicans will “destroy democracy” or stage a coup.

A cynic might suggest that they praise democracy when they get elected, only to claim it is broken when they lose. Or they hope to avoid their defeat by trying to terrify the electorate. Or they mask their own revolutionary propensities by projecting them onto their opponents.

After all, who is trying to federalize election laws in national elections contrary to the spirit of the Constitution? Who wishes to repeal or circumvent the Electoral College? Who wishes to destroy the more than 180-year-old Senate filibuster, the more than 150-year-old nine-justice Supreme Court, and the more than 60-year-old, 50-state union?

Who is attacking the founding constitutional idea of two senators per state?

The Constitution also clearly states that “when the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside.” Who slammed through the impeachment of then-President Donald Trump without a presiding chief justice?

Never had a president been either impeached twice or tried in the Senate as a private citizen. Who did both?

The left further broke prior precedent by impeaching Trump without a special counsel’s report, formal hearings, witnesses, and cross-examinations.
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Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?

www.theepochtimes.com

The real insurrectionists were those who plotted an insurance policy in case Trump won in 2016, carried out that insurance policy during Trump's presidency (including two kangaroo impeachments), are currently plotting to take Trump out of the picture so that voters won't be able to vote for him in 2024, have been taking people's rights away in numerous ways, want to end the filibuster to attain total control, want to add blue states to the Union, and seats onto the Supreme Court - all in a power grab to eliminate democracy.

 

[BlindBoo]

The real insurrectionists were those who plotted an insurance policy in case Trump won in 2016, carried out that insurance policy during Trump's presidency (including two kangaroo impeachments), are currently plotting to take Trump out of the picture so that voters won't be able to vote for him in 2024, have been taking people's rights away in numerous ways, want to end the filibuster to attain total control, want to add blue states to the Union, and seats onto the Supreme Court - all in a power grab to eliminate democracy.

Worst insurance policy ever. They couldn't even investigate the corruption of the Trumpybear Regime until the voters gave them control over the House beginning in 2019. The Neo-GOP carved out an exception for SC Judges, none of the Trump Judges would have passed the old standard. Not one.

 

[candycorn]

"I" did not, the source I cited did.

So you cited a source that you disagree with?

 

[Doc7505]

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They're trying to deflect!

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[lennypartiv]

Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?​

---BLM from Baltimore Was Bussing in Rioters Disguised as Trump Supporters on Jan. 6---

BREAKING: Internal Memo Reveals Capitol Police Were Warned BLM from Baltimore Was Bussing in Rioters Disguised as Trump Supporters on Jan. 6 | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

It was all a setup.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[whitehall]

Why is it necessary to use the word "conservative" when listing Dr. Victor Davis Hanson's credentials when they never use political labels for liberals? It's a kneejerk policy that most people are bullied into using even when they have the best intentions.

 

[busybee01]

Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?​

January 5, 2022 Updated: January 11, 2022
Victor Davis Hanson is a conservative commentator, classicist, and military historian. He is a professor of classics emeritus at California State University, a senior fellow in classics and military history at Stanford University, a fellow of Hillsdale College, and a distinguished fellow of the Center for American Greatness. Hanson has written 16 books, including “The Western Way of War,” “Fields Without Dreams,” and “The Case for Trump.”
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EXCERPT (I);
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Commentary

Recently, Democrats have been despondent over President Joe Biden’s sinking poll numbers. His policies on the economy, energy, foreign policy, the border, and COVID-19 all have lost majority support.

As a result, the left now variously alleges that either in 2022, when they expect to lose the Congress, or in 2024, when they fear losing the presidency, Republicans will “destroy democracy” or stage a coup.

A cynic might suggest that they praise democracy when they get elected, only to claim it is broken when they lose. Or they hope to avoid their defeat by trying to terrify the electorate. Or they mask their own revolutionary propensities by projecting them onto their opponents.

After all, who is trying to federalize election laws in national elections contrary to the spirit of the Constitution? Who wishes to repeal or circumvent the Electoral College? Who wishes to destroy the more than 180-year-old Senate filibuster, the more than 150-year-old nine-justice Supreme Court, and the more than 60-year-old, 50-state union?

Who is attacking the founding constitutional idea of two senators per state?

The Constitution also clearly states that “when the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside.” Who slammed through the impeachment of then-President Donald Trump without a presiding chief justice?

Never had a president been either impeached twice or tried in the Senate as a private citizen. Who did both?

The left further broke prior precedent by impeaching Trump without a special counsel’s report, formal hearings, witnesses, and cross-examinations.
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Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?

www.theepochtimes.com

You need to be educated.

The Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate federal elections. The reason is that the founding fathers recognized that states could be corrupted and saw Congress may need to step in and stop the corruption.

The filibuster was never meant to be used to stop all legislation. It was rarely used. Right now we have serious issues that need to be addressed. They are not because of the defacto 60 votes. threshold. Michael Steele was chairman of the RNC and he has said that Republicans will get rid of the filibuster to pass a national anti-abortion law.

It was John Roberts who declined to participate in the impeachment trial.

There is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that governs the impeachment of a President. The Congress has broad latitude. No one elsew's supporters stormed the capitol to stop the certification of a election either. It was the first time that a VP had to be evacuated from the Capitol.

Precedent means nothing. The Constitution gives Congress broad powers over impeachments.

 

[busybee01]

EXCERPT (III);
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At various times in our nation’s history—1832, 1861 to 1865, and 1961 to 1963—America has been either racked by internal violence or fought a civil war over similar state nullification of federal laws.

In the past five years, we have indeed seen many internal threats to democracy.

Hillary Clinton hired a foreign national to concoct a dossier of dirt against her presidential opponent. She disguised her own role by projecting her efforts to use Russian sources onto Trump. She used her contacts in government and media to seed the dossier and create a national hysteria about “Russian collusion.” Clinton urged Biden not to accept the 2020 result if he lost, and she herself claimed Trump wasn’t a legitimately elected president.

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has violated laws governing the chain of command. Some retired officers violated Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice by slandering their commander-in-chief. Others publicly were on record calling for the military to intervene to remove an elected president.

Some of the nation’s top officials in the FBI and intelligence committee have misled or lied under oath either to federal investigators or the U.S. Congress, again, mostly with impunity.

All these sustained revolutionary activities were justified as necessary to achieve the supposedly noble ends of removing Trump.

The result is Third-World-like jurisprudence in the United States aimed to reward friends and punish enemies, masked by service to social justice.

We are in a dangerous revolutionary cycle. But the threat isn’t so much from loud, buffoonish one-day rioters on Jan. 6. Such clownish characters didn’t for 120 days loot, burn, attack courthouses and police precincts, cause more than 30 deaths, injure 2,000 policemen, and destroy at least $2 billion in property—all under the banner of revolutionary justice.

Even more ominously, stone-cold sober elites are systematically waging an insidious revolution in the shadows that seeks to dismantle America’s institutions and the rule of law as we have known them.
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Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?

www.theepochtimes.com

You are a real cuckoo. It was Flynn who wanted Trump to declare martial law to remain in power. He attempted to use the military and the DOJ to remain in power.

Trump did collude with Russia, Trump's campaign turned over internal polling data and other campaign information to a Russian spy. The campaign met with a Russian national expecting to get dirt on Clinton.

Hillary Clinton had nothing to do with the dossier aside from financing it. The fact is that the 2016 election was tainted. The Russians did interfere in our elections and what effect it had on the 2016 election is unknown. Also Comey erred when he told Congress that they were re-opening the Clinton investigation on the last weekend before the election.

 

[busybee01]

---BLM from Baltimore Was Bussing in Rioters Disguised as Trump Supporters on Jan. 6---

BREAKING: Internal Memo Reveals Capitol Police Were Warned BLM from Baltimore Was Bussing in Rioters Disguised as Trump Supporters on Jan. 6 | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

It was all a setup.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

The only thing that is broken is your head. You are a real cuckoo.

 

[Stryder50]

You need to be educated.

The Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate federal elections. The reason is that the founding fathers recognized that states could be corrupted and saw Congress may need to step in and stop the corruption.

The filibuster was never meant to be used to stop all legislation. It was rarely used. Right now we have serious issues that need to be addressed. They are not because of the defacto 60 votes. threshold. Michael Steele was chairman of the RNC and he has said that Republicans will get rid of the filibuster to pass a national anti-abortion law.

It was John Roberts who declined to participate in the impeachment trial.

There is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that governs the impeachment of a President. The Congress has broad latitude. No one elsew's supporters stormed the capitol to stop the certification of a election either. It was the first time that a VP had to be evacuated from the Capitol.

Precedent means nothing. The Constitution gives Congress broad powers over impeachments.

1) I have 20+ years of age on you and corresponding "educated", and more important, experience. Especially in politics in forms of working with local party structures and campaigns, etc.

2) You seem to be quoting and responding to the excerpts of an article I linked to and provided excerpt quotes from. i.e., not my own words or views. So blunt point is, you are barking up the wrong tree.

3) You are not providing any sources or links to support what looks to be your subjective interpretation of the USA Constitution.

4) I'd suggest you read(re-read) the USA Constitution!
On the case of Impeachment, see Article I, Section 3.; the final two paragraphs;

5) Congree back then was more concerned with the individual office holders being corrupted, rather then "the states"; whatever you mean by that unclear term.
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The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law. *
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On a related and connecting matter, see also Article II, Section 1.,;
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Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.
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ALSO, From Article II, Section 4.;
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Section 4​

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.​

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U.S. Constitution | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

The original text of the United States Constitution and its Amendments.

constitution.congress.gov

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Would seem the only "squishy" part is the definition of " high Crimes and Misdemeanors'. Otherwise the Constitution is fairly precise on the process of impeachment. And as you can see, by "all civil Officers" even members of Congress can be impeached.
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As for " It was the first time that a VP had to be evacuated from the Capitol", you might review events of the War of 1812.
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Precedent is a standard not only in the making of laws, but their application. You will discover this if you ever have to be in court and plead before a judge, and/or jury.
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Bottom-line is you are either Ignorant, or dis-informing/lying when you state;

"The Constitution gives Congress broad powers over impeachments."

Also, Victor Davis Hanson, whose opinion piece I was quoting/citing from, is far more educated and informed on the Constitution and the USA Government then you are, by more than a county mile.

 

[mamooth]

The very, very violent Trump cult traitors are working so hard to justify their ongoing violence and treason.

It's not working. Their fantasies are being laughed at. The whole nation still thinks they're dogshit.

Sucks to be you, Trump-traitors.

I know! Mabye if you cry some more bitch-traitor tears, people won't spit on the sidewalk as you walk by! By all means, make more threads like this!

 

[Chillicothe]

--BLM from Baltimore Was Bussing in Rioters Disguised as Trump Supporters on Jan. 6---

And, per reliable sources, those faux MAGAhats from Baltimore linked up with the ANTIFA false-flaggers that Matt Gaetz promptly identified in a nano-second by January 7th
Lenny and FratBoy Gaetz.
They are kinda sorta like that 'elite strike force' of lawyers DonT hired to root out the fraud in the election.
With rather indifferent results, some might say.
Accordingly, let us leave the last good word about the Matty & Lenny crime-fighting team to poster 'busybee01'.

To wit:

"You are a real cuckoo."

 

[lennypartiv]

Chillicothe shoots the messenger again.