Who Are The Palestinians?

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If you go to a place on another continent, settle the place, expel the local people against their will and create your own country, it is an invasion, per at least two of the three primary definitions of the word:

"an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain."

"an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity."



Which is just what the muslims are doing in Europe, they have not been invited to come here have they. They are generally illegal immigrants coming in from across the Med or from Turkey looking to steal the land from the indigenous and turn the nations into Islamic hell holes.

The Jews were invited to come to Palestine and settle the land freely so no invasion at all just a valid migration under CUSTOMAY INTERNATIONAL LAW.

So Abdul how about a link to prove your claim of it being an invasion and not a migration at the request of the lands legal owners ?
 
Just as we Christians are mandated to spread Christianity. We've done a good job, don't you think?



By force, violence, rape and forced conversions like islam does.

And you are no more a Christian than I am an Islamic warlord.
 
Thank God the Palestinians never claimed to be decendents of the lost tribes of Israel.
 
Mindful, et al,

I apologize for not getting back to this sooner, but I wanted first to hear what other contributors had to say.

King Abdullah’s Flawed Ploy

During his recent visit to Washington to meet with President Obama, King Abdullah II of Jordan was interviewed on “CBS This Morning.” Displaying his keen sense of the terrible neighborhood in which his kingdom is embedded, he identified the war against ISIS jihadi terrorists as “clearly a fight between good and evil.”

The King chose not to mention that Palestinians have rejected every two-state solution since 1937, when the British Peel Commission proposed the second partition of Palestine. The first came fifteen years earlier, when British Colonial Secretary Winston Churchill lopped off three-quarters of Mandatory Palestine as a gift to Abdullah’s great-grandfather for his wartime loyalty to the Allied cause. But unwilling to tolerate a Jewish state of any size in their midst, Arab leaders rejected the Peel proposal, the UN partition plan that followed a decade later, and even the dangerously generous two-state offers, involving huge Israeli land concessions, offered by Prime Ministers Barak and Olmert.

King Abdullah also chose (understandably) to ignore the demographic reality in Jordan, which poses a significant threat to the stability of his own regime. For obvious reasons, his kingdom provides no official census data about its Palestinian inhabitants. Best estimates (including by the U.S. State Department) indicate that they comprise more than half, and perhaps as high as two-thirds, of the Jordanian population.

In sum: the Hashemite king rules over a majority Palestinian population in two-thirds of Palestine. In translation: the Palestinians already have a state named Jordan, located in Palestine, and comprise a majority of its population. That is as it should be: the fulfillment of international assurances to Jews, and British promises to the Hashemites, that date back nearly a century.

King Abdullah s Flawed Ploy Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
(COMMENT)

I think His Majesty (King Abdullah II, Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan) is one of the most eloquent speakers on the issues of the day in the Middle East. And I think that we need to listen to his words in more that just "sound-bite" fashion.

Yes, clearly --- His Majesty does not just say that it is "a fight between good and evil," but that it is a "generational fight." He makes it plain that it is a Muslim problem --- and that the Muslim countries and leadership must take ownership problem --- draw a line in the sand --- "and that those that believe in right must stand on this side --- and those that don't have to make a decision to stand on the other." That the concepts and foundation of the IS [Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) - Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)] is not "reflection of our religion" --- and that "we must stand up and say what is right and what is wrong." It is not just IS that is the problem and "evil", but that IS is part of a wider global "Jihadist Movement;" and that a "strategic holistic approach" (Pan-Regional Approach) is required. That while there are many different elements that make-up the global "Jihadist Movement" (HM mentions the Sinai, Libya, Somalia, Mali, Nigeria, and Yemen), which have Jihadist of different names --- but very similar, if not the same, beliefs. (MY INSERT: Remembering that HAMAS is a Jihadist Organization and in close association with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in Gaza.) This is connected directly to the problem of "foreign fighters" flocking to IS (Syria and Iraq Region) from all over the world.

His Majesty indicated that the door is not closed on the Israeli-Palestinian Issue, and that the talks have not failed "YET!"... But that there is a necessity to move the Israeli-Palestinian issues forward since there is the bigger issue to be addressed of the --- global Jihadist movement that needs attention. The "one-arm tied behind their back" was made in the context that the world doesn't want to be addressing both the "Israeli-Palestinian Issue" with one hand --- while struggling with the "global Jihadist movement" with the other. It was not a comment that attempted to assign blame for the lack of a solution.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
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Mindful, et al,

I apologize for not getting back to this sooner, but I wanted first to hear what other contributors had to say.

King Abdullah’s Flawed Ploy

During his recent visit to Washington to meet with President Obama, King Abdullah II of Jordan was interviewed on “CBS This Morning.” Displaying his keen sense of the terrible neighborhood in which his kingdom is embedded, he identified the war against ISIS jihadi terrorists as “clearly a fight between good and evil.”

The King chose not to mention that Palestinians have rejected every two-state solution since 1937, when the British Peel Commission proposed the second partition of Palestine. The first came fifteen years earlier, when British Colonial Secretary Winston Churchill lopped off three-quarters of Mandatory Palestine as a gift to Abdullah’s great-grandfather for his wartime loyalty to the Allied cause. But unwilling to tolerate a Jewish state of any size in their midst, Arab leaders rejected the Peel proposal, the UN partition plan that followed a decade later, and even the dangerously generous two-state offers, involving huge Israeli land concessions, offered by Prime Ministers Barak and Olmert.

King Abdullah also chose (understandably) to ignore the demographic reality in Jordan, which poses a significant threat to the stability of his own regime. For obvious reasons, his kingdom provides no official census data about its Palestinian inhabitants. Best estimates (including by the U.S. State Department) indicate that they comprise more than half, and perhaps as high as two-thirds, of the Jordanian population.

In sum: the Hashemite king rules over a majority Palestinian population in two-thirds of Palestine. In translation: the Palestinians already have a state named Jordan, located in Palestine, and comprise a majority of its population. That is as it should be: the fulfillment of international assurances to Jews, and British promises to the Hashemites, that date back nearly a century.

King Abdullah s Flawed Ploy Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
(COMMENT)

I think His Majesty (King Abdullah II, Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan) is one of the most eloquent speakers on the issues of the day in the Middle East. And I think that we need to listen to his words in more that just "sound-bite" fashion.

Yes, clearly --- His Majesty does not just say that it is "a fight between good and evil," but that it is a "generational fight." He makes it plain that it is a Muslim problem --- and that the Muslim countries and leadership must take ownership problem --- draw a line in the sand --- "and that those that believe in right must stand on this side --- and those that don't have to make a decision to stand on the other." That the concepts and foundation of the IS [Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) - Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)] is not "reflection of our religion" --- and that "we must stand up and say what is right and what is wrong." It is not just IS that is the problem and "evil", but that IS is part of a wider global "Jihadist Movement;" and that a "strategic holistic approach" (Pan-Regional Approach) is required. That while there are many different elements that make-up the global "Jihadist Movement" (HM mentions the Sinai, Libya, Somalia, Mali, Nigeria, and Yemen), which have Jihadist of different names --- but very similar, if not the same, beliefs. (MY INSERT: Remembering that HAMAS is a Jihadist Organization and in close association with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in Gaza.) This is connected directly to the problem of "foreign fighters" flocking to IS (Syria and Iraq Region) from all over the world.

His Majesty indicated that the door is not closed on the Israeli-Palestinian Issue, and that the talks have not failed "YET!"... But that there is a necessity to move the Israeli-Palestinian issues forward since there is the bigger issue to be addressed of the --- global Jihadist movement that needs attention. The "one-arm tied behind their back" was made in the context that the world doesn't want to be addressing both the "Israeli-Palestinian Issue" with one hand --- while struggling with the "global Jihadist movement" with the other. It was not a comment that attempted to assign blame for the lack of a solution.

Most Respectfully,
R
And then there is Queen Rania.

Queen Rania at The Kennedy School of Government - Harvard University



BTW, Queen Rania is Palestinian.
 
Nope, I don't understand heathen talk.

This creature says it's a Roman Catholic while making its mission in life the complete support of those who persecute Christians in the Middle East.

Shouldn't the good taqiyya be at least marginally believable?
 
Mindful, et al,

I apologize for not getting back to this sooner, but I wanted first to hear what other contributors had to say.

King Abdullah’s Flawed Ploy

During his recent visit to Washington to meet with President Obama, King Abdullah II of Jordan was interviewed on “CBS This Morning.” Displaying his keen sense of the terrible neighborhood in which his kingdom is embedded, he identified the war against ISIS jihadi terrorists as “clearly a fight between good and evil.”

The King chose not to mention that Palestinians have rejected every two-state solution since 1937, when the British Peel Commission proposed the second partition of Palestine. The first came fifteen years earlier, when British Colonial Secretary Winston Churchill lopped off three-quarters of Mandatory Palestine as a gift to Abdullah’s great-grandfather for his wartime loyalty to the Allied cause. But unwilling to tolerate a Jewish state of any size in their midst, Arab leaders rejected the Peel proposal, the UN partition plan that followed a decade later, and even the dangerously generous two-state offers, involving huge Israeli land concessions, offered by Prime Ministers Barak and Olmert.

King Abdullah also chose (understandably) to ignore the demographic reality in Jordan, which poses a significant threat to the stability of his own regime. For obvious reasons, his kingdom provides no official census data about its Palestinian inhabitants. Best estimates (including by the U.S. State Department) indicate that they comprise more than half, and perhaps as high as two-thirds, of the Jordanian population.

In sum: the Hashemite king rules over a majority Palestinian population in two-thirds of Palestine. In translation: the Palestinians already have a state named Jordan, located in Palestine, and comprise a majority of its population. That is as it should be: the fulfillment of international assurances to Jews, and British promises to the Hashemites, that date back nearly a century.

King Abdullah s Flawed Ploy Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
(COMMENT)

I think His Majesty (King Abdullah II, Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan) is one of the most eloquent speakers on the issues of the day in the Middle East. And I think that we need to listen to his words in more that just "sound-bite" fashion.

Yes, clearly --- His Majesty does not just say that it is "a fight between good and evil," but that it is a "generational fight." He makes it plain that it is a Muslim problem --- and that the Muslim countries and leadership must take ownership problem --- draw a line in the sand --- "and that those that believe in right must stand on this side --- and those that don't have to make a decision to stand on the other." That the concepts and foundation of the IS [Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) - Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)] is not "reflection of our religion" --- and that "we must stand up and say what is right and what is wrong." It is not just IS that is the problem and "evil", but that IS is part of a wider global "Jihadist Movement;" and that a "strategic holistic approach" (Pan-Regional Approach) is required. That while there are many different elements that make-up the global "Jihadist Movement" (HM mentions the Sinai, Libya, Somalia, Mali, Nigeria, and Yemen), which have Jihadist of different names --- but very similar, if not the same, beliefs. (MY INSERT: Remembering that HAMAS is a Jihadist Organization and in close association with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in Gaza.) This is connected directly to the problem of "foreign fighters" flocking to IS (Syria and Iraq Region) from all over the world.

His Majesty indicated that the door is not closed on the Israeli-Palestinian Issue, and that the talks have not failed "YET!"... But that there is a necessity to move the Israeli-Palestinian issues forward since there is the bigger issue to be addressed of the --- global Jihadist movement that needs attention. The "one-arm tied behind their back" was made in the context that the world doesn't want to be addressing both the "Israeli-Palestinian Issue" with one hand --- while struggling with the "global Jihadist movement" with the other. It was not a comment that attempted to assign blame for the lack of a solution.

Most Respectfully,
R
And then there is Queen Rania.

Queen Rania at The Kennedy School of Government - Harvard University



BTW, Queen Rania is Palestinian.


Ever wonder why king Abullah is a happy man. He marries the most gorgeous Palestinian woman & refuses to grant any right of return to all the rest of the Palestinians. And he even opened borders with Israel so tourists to Israel can cross over into Jordan to purchase Jordanian goods & services to boost their economy as well. Truly king Abdullah is the smartest player in the Middle East.
 
Mindful, et al,

I apologize for not getting back to this sooner, but I wanted first to hear what other contributors had to say.

King Abdullah’s Flawed Ploy

During his recent visit to Washington to meet with President Obama, King Abdullah II of Jordan was interviewed on “CBS This Morning.” Displaying his keen sense of the terrible neighborhood in which his kingdom is embedded, he identified the war against ISIS jihadi terrorists as “clearly a fight between good and evil.”

The King chose not to mention that Palestinians have rejected every two-state solution since 1937, when the British Peel Commission proposed the second partition of Palestine. The first came fifteen years earlier, when British Colonial Secretary Winston Churchill lopped off three-quarters of Mandatory Palestine as a gift to Abdullah’s great-grandfather for his wartime loyalty to the Allied cause. But unwilling to tolerate a Jewish state of any size in their midst, Arab leaders rejected the Peel proposal, the UN partition plan that followed a decade later, and even the dangerously generous two-state offers, involving huge Israeli land concessions, offered by Prime Ministers Barak and Olmert.

King Abdullah also chose (understandably) to ignore the demographic reality in Jordan, which poses a significant threat to the stability of his own regime. For obvious reasons, his kingdom provides no official census data about its Palestinian inhabitants. Best estimates (including by the U.S. State Department) indicate that they comprise more than half, and perhaps as high as two-thirds, of the Jordanian population.

In sum: the Hashemite king rules over a majority Palestinian population in two-thirds of Palestine. In translation: the Palestinians already have a state named Jordan, located in Palestine, and comprise a majority of its population. That is as it should be: the fulfillment of international assurances to Jews, and British promises to the Hashemites, that date back nearly a century.

King Abdullah s Flawed Ploy Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
(COMMENT)

I think His Majesty (King Abdullah II, Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan) is one of the most eloquent speakers on the issues of the day in the Middle East. And I think that we need to listen to his words in more that just "sound-bite" fashion.

Yes, clearly --- His Majesty does not just say that it is "a fight between good and evil," but that it is a "generational fight." He makes it plain that it is a Muslim problem --- and that the Muslim countries and leadership must take ownership problem --- draw a line in the sand --- "and that those that believe in right must stand on this side --- and those that don't have to make a decision to stand on the other." That the concepts and foundation of the IS [Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) - Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)] is not "reflection of our religion" --- and that "we must stand up and say what is right and what is wrong." It is not just IS that is the problem and "evil", but that IS is part of a wider global "Jihadist Movement;" and that a "strategic holistic approach" (Pan-Regional Approach) is required. That while there are many different elements that make-up the global "Jihadist Movement" (HM mentions the Sinai, Libya, Somalia, Mali, Nigeria, and Yemen), which have Jihadist of different names --- but very similar, if not the same, beliefs. (MY INSERT: Remembering that HAMAS is a Jihadist Organization and in close association with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in Gaza.) This is connected directly to the problem of "foreign fighters" flocking to IS (Syria and Iraq Region) from all over the world.

His Majesty indicated that the door is not closed on the Israeli-Palestinian Issue, and that the talks have not failed "YET!"... But that there is a necessity to move the Israeli-Palestinian issues forward since there is the bigger issue to be addressed of the --- global Jihadist movement that needs attention. The "one-arm tied behind their back" was made in the context that the world doesn't want to be addressing both the "Israeli-Palestinian Issue" with one hand --- while struggling with the "global Jihadist movement" with the other. It was not a comment that attempted to assign blame for the lack of a solution.

Most Respectfully,
R
And then there is Queen Rania.

Queen Rania at The Kennedy School of Government - Harvard University



BTW, Queen Rania is Palestinian.


Ever wonder why king Abullah is a happy man. He marries the most gorgeous Palestinian woman & refuses to grant any right of return to all the rest of the Palestinians. And he even opened borders with Israel so tourists to Israel can cross over into Jordan to purchase Jordanian goods & services to boost their economy as well. Truly king Abdullah is the smartest player in the Middle East.



He's a Brit, that's why. Nice and pragmatic.
 
Mindful, et al,

I apologize for not getting back to this sooner, but I wanted first to hear what other contributors had to say.

King Abdullah’s Flawed Ploy

During his recent visit to Washington to meet with President Obama, King Abdullah II of Jordan was interviewed on “CBS This Morning.” Displaying his keen sense of the terrible neighborhood in which his kingdom is embedded, he identified the war against ISIS jihadi terrorists as “clearly a fight between good and evil.”

The King chose not to mention that Palestinians have rejected every two-state solution since 1937, when the British Peel Commission proposed the second partition of Palestine. The first came fifteen years earlier, when British Colonial Secretary Winston Churchill lopped off three-quarters of Mandatory Palestine as a gift to Abdullah’s great-grandfather for his wartime loyalty to the Allied cause. But unwilling to tolerate a Jewish state of any size in their midst, Arab leaders rejected the Peel proposal, the UN partition plan that followed a decade later, and even the dangerously generous two-state offers, involving huge Israeli land concessions, offered by Prime Ministers Barak and Olmert.

King Abdullah also chose (understandably) to ignore the demographic reality in Jordan, which poses a significant threat to the stability of his own regime. For obvious reasons, his kingdom provides no official census data about its Palestinian inhabitants. Best estimates (including by the U.S. State Department) indicate that they comprise more than half, and perhaps as high as two-thirds, of the Jordanian population.

In sum: the Hashemite king rules over a majority Palestinian population in two-thirds of Palestine. In translation: the Palestinians already have a state named Jordan, located in Palestine, and comprise a majority of its population. That is as it should be: the fulfillment of international assurances to Jews, and British promises to the Hashemites, that date back nearly a century.

King Abdullah s Flawed Ploy Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com
(COMMENT)

I think His Majesty (King Abdullah II, Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan) is one of the most eloquent speakers on the issues of the day in the Middle East. And I think that we need to listen to his words in more that just "sound-bite" fashion.

Yes, clearly --- His Majesty does not just say that it is "a fight between good and evil," but that it is a "generational fight." He makes it plain that it is a Muslim problem --- and that the Muslim countries and leadership must take ownership problem --- draw a line in the sand --- "and that those that believe in right must stand on this side --- and those that don't have to make a decision to stand on the other." That the concepts and foundation of the IS [Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) - Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)] is not "reflection of our religion" --- and that "we must stand up and say what is right and what is wrong." It is not just IS that is the problem and "evil", but that IS is part of a wider global "Jihadist Movement;" and that a "strategic holistic approach" (Pan-Regional Approach) is required. That while there are many different elements that make-up the global "Jihadist Movement" (HM mentions the Sinai, Libya, Somalia, Mali, Nigeria, and Yemen), which have Jihadist of different names --- but very similar, if not the same, beliefs. (MY INSERT: Remembering that HAMAS is a Jihadist Organization and in close association with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in Gaza.) This is connected directly to the problem of "foreign fighters" flocking to IS (Syria and Iraq Region) from all over the world.

His Majesty indicated that the door is not closed on the Israeli-Palestinian Issue, and that the talks have not failed "YET!"... But that there is a necessity to move the Israeli-Palestinian issues forward since there is the bigger issue to be addressed of the --- global Jihadist movement that needs attention. The "one-arm tied behind their back" was made in the context that the world doesn't want to be addressing both the "Israeli-Palestinian Issue" with one hand --- while struggling with the "global Jihadist movement" with the other. It was not a comment that attempted to assign blame for the lack of a solution.

Most Respectfully,
R
And then there is Queen Rania.

Queen Rania at The Kennedy School of Government - Harvard University



BTW, Queen Rania is Palestinian.


Ever wonder why king Abullah is a happy man. He marries the most gorgeous Palestinian woman & refuses to grant any right of return to all the rest of the Palestinians. And he even opened borders with Israel so tourists to Israel can cross over into Jordan to purchase Jordanian goods & services to boost their economy as well. Truly king Abdullah is the smartest player in the Middle East.



He's a Brit, that's why. Nice and pragmatic.



He sure showed the world how to establish a lasting peace from Palestinians during Black September. It's all just a matter of communicating with Palestinians in the only language they understand & respect. When will those Zionists in Israel ever learn? LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!
 
Who are the Palestinians?

Ashira Ramadan




OMG! I was not aware of all the horrible brutal abuse Israel puts the noble innocent peace loving, life loving Palestinians through. Wouldn't it be wonderful if Israel would be so humane as to free the Palestinians from Israeli rule by finding some incentive to offer the surrounding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their native homelands?
 
The Palestinian's homeland is Palestine, the Jew's homeland is Europe, where they came from.
 
The Palestinian's homeland is Palestine, the Jew's homeland is Europe, where they came from.

Oh now I get it. Muslim Palestinians occupied the land before the Jews. Please excuse me while I go tell my neighbors.
 
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The Palestinian's homeland is Palestine, the Jew's homeland is Europe, where they came from.

Oh now I get it. Muslim Palestinians occupied the land before the Jews. Please excuse me while I go tell my neighbors.

Prior to the defeat of the Romans (Byzantium) they were Christians, converts from various religions, including Judaism. Christianity being the state religion.
 
Nonsense. Let's look at some prominent Arab "Palestinian" families to see if your assertion is based on sound historical facts or just quotidian Arab propaganda.
1 - The Husayni (Husseini) clan claim descent from Husayn ibn Ali, the grandson of prophet Mohammad; Husayn hailed from Medina, which is in the Arabian Peninsula. (al-Husayni - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia)
2 - The Nashashibis clan are of Kurdish, Turkoman or Arab origin.
(Nashashibi - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia)
3 - The Barghoutis are a sub-clan of the Bani Zeid tribe that hails from the Hejaz, a region in western, present-day Saudi Arabia.
(Bani Zeid - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia)
4 - The al Khalids hail from Mecca.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Khalil_(family) )
5 - The Nusseibehs hail from Medina.
(Nusaybah clan - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia)
. . . Arab Propaganda.
 
The Palestinian's homeland is Palestine, the Jew's homeland is Europe, where they came from.

Oh now I get it. Muslim Palestinians occupied the land before the Jews. Please excuse me while I go tell my neighbors.
Who mentioned Muslims?

Thank you. Good point. There were no Muslims among the indigenous Palestinians. But there were indeed Jews. So who is stealing who's land?

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