Who Are The Palestinians?

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

I know that you think that "land ownership" has something to do with sovereignty. But is doesn't.

• Land ownership is a real estate matter in civil law.
• Sovereignty is a matter of governance.

You mean the 85%+ owned by the Christians and Muslims before partition?

(COMMENT)

As an example in the difference is in the case of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan which does not rule over a Hashemite Population. Jordan has a population that is ethnically Arab 98% (Native to the Kingdom are mostly descended from village-dwellers and Bedouins originating in the Arabian Peninsula. Half of Jordan's population are of Palestinian origin.); with minorities including Circassian 1%, Armenian 1%.

In contrast, the Hashemites (Arab chieftain Quraysh (Quraysh, at one time the ruling tribe of Mecca, that also guarded its most sacred shrine, the Kaʿbah), in the same lineage as the Prophet Ismai) are descendants of the ancient Banu Hahsim (Muhammad - PBUH - was born in 570 of the Hāshemite (Banū Hāshim) branch of the noble house of ʿAbd Manāf; he never lacked protection by his clan).

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco et al.

No, I have no doubt that ownership of land has no relationship with sovereignty. But if the owners of the land are dispossessed of the land, it is theft, regardless of sovereignty. The Japanese may own most of the private land in Hawaii, but Hawaii is not under Japanese sovereignty. However, if the U.S. makes up a law that takes the land from the Japanese owners, it is theft.

They were dispossessed AFTER they joined 5 Arab armies in trying to destroy Israel and dispossess the Jews. Why do you always leave that part out ?

Because it is not true. Half of the Palestinians were dispossessed before the beginning of the 1948 war. The 1948 war kept Israel from cleansing all of Palestine.

Overall, though, the 1948 war had no effect on Palestine's legal status.

Because it had none due to a law created in 1923 that gave the land to the Jews for their national home.

 

[Phoenall]

You mean the 85%+ owned by the Christians and Muslims before partition?

What about it ?

Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan, the same way the so called Palestinians did so.
If that's stealing, then why did the U.N recognize Israel and make them a full member one year later?

Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan,...​

No it didn't.

It declared independence on land given to the Jews in 1923 for the Jewish National home. The arab muslims are land thieves and illegal immigrants

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

I know that you think that "land ownership" has something to do with sovereignty. But is doesn't.

• Land ownership is a real estate matter in civil law.
• Sovereignty is a matter of governance.

(COMMENT)

As an example in the difference is in the case of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan which does not rule over a Hashemite Population. Jordan has a population that is ethnically Arab 98% (Native to the Kingdom are mostly descended from village-dwellers and Bedouins originating in the Arabian Peninsula. Half of Jordan's population are of Palestinian origin.); with minorities including Circassian 1%, Armenian 1%.

In contrast, the Hashemites (Arab chieftain Quraysh (Quraysh, at one time the ruling tribe of Mecca, that also guarded its most sacred shrine, the Kaʿbah), in the same lineage as the Prophet Ismai) are descendants of the ancient Banu Hahsim (Muhammad - PBUH - was born in 570 of the Hāshemite (Banū Hāshim) branch of the noble house of ʿAbd Manāf; he never lacked protection by his clan).

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco et al.

No, I have no doubt that ownership of land has no relationship with sovereignty. But if the owners of the land are dispossessed of the land, it is theft, regardless of sovereignty. The Japanese may own most of the private land in Hawaii, but Hawaii is not under Japanese sovereignty. However, if the U.S. makes up a law that takes the land from the Japanese owners, it is theft.

They were dispossessed AFTER they joined 5 Arab armies in trying to destroy Israel and dispossess the Jews. Why do you always leave that part out ?

Because it is not true. Half of the Palestinians were dispossessed before the beginning of the 1948 war. The 1948 war kept Israel from cleansing all of Palestine.

Overall, though, the 1948 war had no effect on Palestine's legal status.

Can you document that?

Many Palestians fled upon hearing false news, which I recently documented. But some Palestinians were dispossessed during the 1947 war, which was also started by the Palestinians.

"Keesing's Contemporary Archives" in London place the total number of refugees before Israel's independence at 300,000.[50]

1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia​

They were in the main terrorist fifth columnists who could be evicted under International law of the time. Maybe it would have been better to execute them as the other option and then there would not be this mess.

 

[Phoenall]

You mean the 85%+ owned by the Christians and Muslims before partition?

What about it ?

Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan, the same way the so called Palestinians did so.
If that's stealing, then why did the U.N recognize Israel and make them a full member one year later?

Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan,...​

No it didn't.

Yes, she did. Stop with your lies. Palestine did as well.

Show me where Israel defines its borders as the proposed partition plan borders.

Then you show where the arab muslims define their borders as those proposed by the illegal partition plan.

 

[Phoenall]

What about it ?

Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan, the same way the so called Palestinians did so.
If that's stealing, then why did the U.N recognize Israel and make them a full member one year later?

Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan,...​

No it didn't.

Yes, she did. Stop with your lies. Palestine did as well.

Show me where Israel defines its borders as the proposed partition plan borders.

What does one have to do with the other ? You've been proven wrong over and over again about this. You're wrong about pretty much everything concerning this subject. Why don't you go debate about something you have knowledge about.

You said "Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan,"

So prove your point.

Declaration of Israel s Independence 1948 . Truman . WGBH American Experience PBS


On November 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted a Resolution for the establishment of an independent Jewish State in Palestine, and called upon the inhabitants of the country to take such steps as may be necessary on their part to put the plan into effect.

This recognition by the United Nations of the right of the Jewish people to establish their Independent State may not be revoked. It is, moreover, the self-evident right of the Jewish people to be a nation, as all other nations, in its own Sovereign State.

 

[Phoenall]

Yes, she did. Stop with your lies. Palestine did as well.

Show me where Israel defines its borders as the proposed partition plan borders.

What does one have to do with the other ? You've been proven wrong over and over again about this. You're wrong about pretty much everything concerning this subject. Why don't you go debate about something you have knowledge about.

You said "Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan,"

So prove your point.

Why is it that you are asking me this question, when you have asked Rocco the same one countless times, followed by him proving it is correct?

He has?

Got a link?

Read his posts again...............

 

[Phoenall]

What does one have to do with the other ? You've been proven wrong over and over again about this. You're wrong about pretty much everything concerning this subject. Why don't you go debate about something you have knowledge about.

You said "Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan,"

So prove your point.

Why is it that you are asking me this question, when you have asked Rocco the same one countless times, followed by him proving it is correct?

He has?

Got a link?

Many times. But as usual, you refuse to accept the truth. But just because you refuse, doesn't make the claim false.
Kind of how we proved you wrong about Palestine using 181 as a basis to declare independence.

The problem is, you only believe the propaganda. There were lots of people living in Palestine that were Christian and Muslim. The Europeans, who happened to be Jews, went there and expelled those people who had been living there for many generations. You just can't accept that basic fact. Why is that?

Beause it is just one of your many racist LIES.

The ottoman census shows there were more Jews than arab muslims living in Palestine prior to the migration in the 1870's

 

[Phoenall]

What does one have to do with the other ? You've been proven wrong over and over again about this. You're wrong about pretty much everything concerning this subject. Why don't you go debate about something you have knowledge about.

You said "Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan,"

So prove your point.

Why is it that you are asking me this question, when you have asked Rocco the same one countless times, followed by him proving it is correct?

He has?

Got a link?

Many times. But as usual, you refuse to accept the truth. But just because you refuse, doesn't make the claim false.
Kind of how we proved you wrong about Palestine using 181 as a basis to declare independence.

Nice duck.

No duck, just the facts that you can never accept

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Palestinians?

Nermin Demyati

Demyati, 28, says her designs are in high demand internationally, but she cannot ship them because of the Israeli blockade

GAZA CITY - Inside her small factory, 28-year-old Nermin Demyati is busy on her modest sewing machine. Customer orders for new designs come in every day from clients all over Europe, Canada and the Middle East who know that Demyati has the talent for all types of hijabi women’s clothing. But, despite wanting to satisfy all her customers, Demyati knows that the probability of marketing abroad is hampered by Israel’s ongoing siege of Gaza.

Gaza s first female fashion designer Middle East Eye

So why doesn't she ship them through Egypt that also borders gaza, or could it be that they are also blockading gaza because of their terrorism ?

 

[Phoenall]

Why is it that you are asking me this question, when you have asked Rocco the same one countless times, followed by him proving it is correct?

He has?

Got a link?

Many times. But as usual, you refuse to accept the truth. But just because you refuse, doesn't make the claim false.
Kind of how we proved you wrong about Palestine using 181 as a basis to declare independence.

The problem is, you only believe the propaganda. There were lots of people living in Palestine that were Christian and Muslim. The Europeans, who happened to be Jews, went there and expelled those people who had been living there for many generations. You just can't accept that basic fact. Why is that?

We're talking about how Israel declared independence.

Oh, and you can't accept that Arabs attacking Israel, with the help of Palestinian militias, was the main cause for the Palestinian getting expelled, just as they had tried to expell the Israelis. The problem with you is that you refuse to accept the truth, as we have seen many times.
You're allergic to the truth, you hate it . You call the truth 'propaganda'.
But you need to remember that even though you refuse to believe the truth, it won't make it go away. Of course, a brainwashed person like you wouldn't understand that . .
Stop lying and stop posting propaganda already, and then maybe more people will take you seriously

Who cares? The Europeans went to Palestine and evicted the people (Christians and Muslims) who lived there. That is a fact. None of your bullshit can change that fact.

They were never there in the first place as shown by the ottoman census results. They were illegal immigrants as proven by your own link

 

[Phoenall]

Many times. But as usual, you refuse to accept the truth. But just because you refuse, doesn't make the claim false.
Kind of how we proved you wrong about Palestine using 181 as a basis to declare independence.

The problem is, you only believe the propaganda. There were lots of people living in Palestine that were Christian and Muslim. The Europeans, who happened to be Jews, went there and expelled those people who had been living there for many generations. You just can't accept that basic fact. Why is that?

We're talking about how Israel declared independence.

Oh, and you can't accept that Arabs attacking Israel, with the help of Palestinian militias, was the main cause for the Palestinian getting expelled, just as they had tried to expell the Israelis. The problem with you is that you refuse to accept the truth, as we have seen many times.
You're allergic to the truth, you hate it . You call the truth 'propaganda'.
But you need to remember that even though you refuse to believe the truth, it won't make it go away. Of course, a brainwashed person like you wouldn't understand that . .
Stop lying and stop posting propaganda already, and then maybe more people will take you seriously

Who cares? The Europeans went to Palestine and evicted the people (Christians and Muslims) who lived there. That is a fact. None of your bullshit can change that fact.

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British, and were attacked by 5 Arab armies and Palestinian militias after doing so. Yet you keep ignoring this vital fact because the real truth is not part of your agenda.
Keep up the propaganda Monti !!

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British,...​

Not!

LINK ?

 

[Phoenall]

Many times. But as usual, you refuse to accept the truth. But just because you refuse, doesn't make the claim false.
Kind of how we proved you wrong about Palestine using 181 as a basis to declare independence.

The problem is, you only believe the propaganda. There were lots of people living in Palestine that were Christian and Muslim. The Europeans, who happened to be Jews, went there and expelled those people who had been living there for many generations. You just can't accept that basic fact. Why is that?

We're talking about how Israel declared independence.

Oh, and you can't accept that Arabs attacking Israel, with the help of Palestinian militias, was the main cause for the Palestinian getting expelled, just as they had tried to expell the Israelis. The problem with you is that you refuse to accept the truth, as we have seen many times.
You're allergic to the truth, you hate it . You call the truth 'propaganda'.
But you need to remember that even though you refuse to believe the truth, it won't make it go away. Of course, a brainwashed person like you wouldn't understand that . .
Stop lying and stop posting propaganda already, and then maybe more people will take you seriously

Who cares? The Europeans went to Palestine and evicted the people (Christians and Muslims) who lived there. That is a fact. None of your bullshit can change that fact.

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British, and were attacked by 5 Arab armies and Palestinian militias after doing so. Yet you keep ignoring this vital fact because the real truth is not part of your agenda.
Keep up the propaganda Monti !!

How could the British, a colonial power, decide to remove the local people to make room for other Europeans? How can you justify taking the land away from the people that were living there. Can't you understand how absurd your position is?

Because they were not living there, they were squatting. And back in 1923 the laws were different to those of today, and the same is 1948 when the land was handed over to the National home of the Jews

 

[Phoenall]

We're talking about how Israel declared independence.

Oh, and you can't accept that Arabs attacking Israel, with the help of Palestinian militias, was the main cause for the Palestinian getting expelled, just as they had tried to expell the Israelis. The problem with you is that you refuse to accept the truth, as we have seen many times.
You're allergic to the truth, you hate it . You call the truth 'propaganda'.
But you need to remember that even though you refuse to believe the truth, it won't make it go away. Of course, a brainwashed person like you wouldn't understand that . .
Stop lying and stop posting propaganda already, and then maybe more people will take you seriously

Who cares? The Europeans went to Palestine and evicted the people (Christians and Muslims) who lived there. That is a fact. None of your bullshit can change that fact.

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British, and were attacked by 5 Arab armies and Palestinian militias after doing so. Yet you keep ignoring this vital fact because the real truth is not part of your agenda.
Keep up the propaganda Monti !!

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British,...​

Not!

Yup ! Call it a Jewish homeland if you want, but that was their intention.

Song and dance.

When did Britain promise a state?

Balfour declaration 1917

 

[Phoenall]

We're talking about how Israel declared independence.

Oh, and you can't accept that Arabs attacking Israel, with the help of Palestinian militias, was the main cause for the Palestinian getting expelled, just as they had tried to expell the Israelis. The problem with you is that you refuse to accept the truth, as we have seen many times.
You're allergic to the truth, you hate it . You call the truth 'propaganda'.
But you need to remember that even though you refuse to believe the truth, it won't make it go away. Of course, a brainwashed person like you wouldn't understand that . .
Stop lying and stop posting propaganda already, and then maybe more people will take you seriously

Who cares? The Europeans went to Palestine and evicted the people (Christians and Muslims) who lived there. That is a fact. None of your bullshit can change that fact.

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British, and were attacked by 5 Arab armies and Palestinian militias after doing so. Yet you keep ignoring this vital fact because the real truth is not part of your agenda.
Keep up the propaganda Monti !!

How could the British, a colonial power, decide to remove the local people to make room for other Europeans? How can you justify taking the land away from the people that were living there. Can't you understand how absurd your position is?

Because the British controlled the land after WW1. Not the Arabs you moron. Use your head for once ! The Arabs had NO SOVEREIGNTY over the land.
The British wanted t ogive the Jews a state which encompasses %.0002 of the land in the Middle East, while the rest of the land belonged to Muslim Arabs. Oh, the horror !!

All the legal assumptions relating to the international status of Palestine were based on the principle according to which sovereignty over a mandated territory lies in its inhabitants.[9] This legal notion has also been confirmed in a United Nations report on the origins of the Palestine problem where it is stated that the sovereignty of Palestine (having been classified as falling under a category “A” Mandate) “could not be alienated either by the Mandatory Power or by the League.”[10]

The Sub-Committee, in its report to the Ad Hoc Committee, further stated that “partition involves the alienation of territory and the destruction of the integrity of the State of Palestine. The United Nations cannot make a disposition or alienation of territory, nor can it deprive the majority of the people of Palestine of their territory and transfer it to the exclusive use of a minority in the country ...”[14]
Palestinian-Israeli Conflict

Correct because the LoN had already given the land to the Jews for their National home.

 

[Phoenall]

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British, and were attacked by 5 Arab armies and Palestinian militias after doing so. Yet you keep ignoring this vital fact because the real truth is not part of your agenda.
Keep up the propaganda Monti !!

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British,...​

Not!

Yup ! Call it a Jewish homeland if you want, but that was their intention.

Song and dance.

When did Britain promise a state?

Balfour Declaration. They called it a 'national home' . That sounds like a state to me. NATIONAL

Pffft, you need to read up.

Actually you need to

Balfour Declaration - UK Non-UN document 2 November 1917


Foreign Office, November 2nd, 1917.
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet. "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of the object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious' rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country". I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely, (Signed) Arthur James Balfour

 

[P F Tinmore]

The problem is, you only believe the propaganda. There were lots of people living in Palestine that were Christian and Muslim. The Europeans, who happened to be Jews, went there and expelled those people who had been living there for many generations. You just can't accept that basic fact. Why is that?

We're talking about how Israel declared independence.

Oh, and you can't accept that Arabs attacking Israel, with the help of Palestinian militias, was the main cause for the Palestinian getting expelled, just as they had tried to expell the Israelis. The problem with you is that you refuse to accept the truth, as we have seen many times.
You're allergic to the truth, you hate it . You call the truth 'propaganda'.
But you need to remember that even though you refuse to believe the truth, it won't make it go away. Of course, a brainwashed person like you wouldn't understand that . .
Stop lying and stop posting propaganda already, and then maybe more people will take you seriously

Who cares? The Europeans went to Palestine and evicted the people (Christians and Muslims) who lived there. That is a fact. None of your bullshit can change that fact.

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British, and were attacked by 5 Arab armies and Palestinian militias after doing so. Yet you keep ignoring this vital fact because the real truth is not part of your agenda.
Keep up the propaganda Monti !!

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British,...​

Not!

LINK ?

Read the Mandate again. The plan was for a single Palestinian state shared by everyone. Specifically not to be a Jewish state.

 

[Phoenall]

We're talking about how Israel declared independence.

Oh, and you can't accept that Arabs attacking Israel, with the help of Palestinian militias, was the main cause for the Palestinian getting expelled, just as they had tried to expell the Israelis. The problem with you is that you refuse to accept the truth, as we have seen many times.
You're allergic to the truth, you hate it . You call the truth 'propaganda'.
But you need to remember that even though you refuse to believe the truth, it won't make it go away. Of course, a brainwashed person like you wouldn't understand that . .
Stop lying and stop posting propaganda already, and then maybe more people will take you seriously

Who cares? The Europeans went to Palestine and evicted the people (Christians and Muslims) who lived there. That is a fact. None of your bullshit can change that fact.

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British, and were attacked by 5 Arab armies and Palestinian militias after doing so. Yet you keep ignoring this vital fact because the real truth is not part of your agenda.
Keep up the propaganda Monti !!

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British,...​

Not!

LINK ?

Read the Mandate again. The plan was for a single Palestinian state shared by everyone. Specifically not to be a Jewish state.

Correct and the arab muslim refused to accept that and wanted it to be an Islamic state, with only muslims in charge. But the Mandate requirements have been met with the state of Israel having all religions there and having all religions participating in the Government. Or don't you see the arab muslims and Christians living as full citizens of Israel and having their own representatives in government.

YOU LOSE AGAIN TO THE TRUTH AND REALITY

 

[montelatici]

The problem is, you only believe the propaganda. There were lots of people living in Palestine that were Christian and Muslim. The Europeans, who happened to be Jews, went there and expelled those people who had been living there for many generations. You just can't accept that basic fact. Why is that?

We're talking about how Israel declared independence.

Oh, and you can't accept that Arabs attacking Israel, with the help of Palestinian militias, was the main cause for the Palestinian getting expelled, just as they had tried to expell the Israelis. The problem with you is that you refuse to accept the truth, as we have seen many times.
You're allergic to the truth, you hate it . You call the truth 'propaganda'.
But you need to remember that even though you refuse to believe the truth, it won't make it go away. Of course, a brainwashed person like you wouldn't understand that . .
Stop lying and stop posting propaganda already, and then maybe more people will take you seriously

Who cares? The Europeans went to Palestine and evicted the people (Christians and Muslims) who lived there. That is a fact. None of your bullshit can change that fact.

They went to Palestine to create a state, as promised by the British, and were attacked by 5 Arab armies and Palestinian militias after doing so. Yet you keep ignoring this vital fact because the real truth is not part of your agenda.
Keep up the propaganda Monti !!

How could the British, a colonial power, decide to remove the local people to make room for other Europeans? How can you justify taking the land away from the people that were living there. Can't you understand how absurd your position is?

Because they were not living there, they were squatting. And back in 1923 the laws were different to those of today, and the same is 1948 when the land was handed over to the National home of the Jews

What do you mean they were not living there? The Europeans were the squatting settlers .


AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF

PALESTINE,

during the period
1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921.

AN INTERIM REPORT
ON THE
CIVIL ADMINISTRATION
OF
PALESTINE.


"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.....The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews.


Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Certainly this cannot be a valid and sound defense.

Rocco et al.

No, I have no doubt that ownership of land has no relationship with sovereignty. But if the owners of the land are dispossessed of the land, it is theft, regardless of sovereignty. The Japanese may own most of the private land in Hawaii, but Hawaii is not under Japanese sovereignty. However, if the U.S. makes up a law that takes the land from the Japanese owners, it is theft.

They were dispossessed AFTER they joined 5 Arab armies in trying to destroy Israel and dispossess the Jews. Why do you always leave that part out ?

Because it is not true. Half of the Palestinians were dispossessed before the beginning of the 1948 war. The 1948 war kept Israel from cleansing all of Palestine.
Overall, though, the 1948 war had no effect on Palestine's legal status.

(COMMENT)

One, the opposing view that the "the Palestinians were dispossessed before the beginning of the 1948 war" can only be valid if the period being discussed was a civil war. Because the State of Israel had not been formed until mid-1948. And the outcome of the civil war is not a violation of any international law.

Relative to the timeframe (post-1948 War of Independence), the statement that the War of Independence "had no effect on Palestine's legal status, is also questionable. Prior to the War, both the Jew component and the Arab component were both of the same citizenship (Palestinian) applied to the population of the territory to which the former Mandate applied."

• Some of the Palestinians became Israeli Citizens.
• Some Palestinians became Palestinians under Jordanian Occupation.
• Some Palestinians became Palestinians under the official Administration of the All-Palestine Government (until abolished in 1959 by Egypt).

The "legal status of the Palestinians" (the same citizenship (Palestinian) applied to the population of the territory to which the former Mandate applied) was manipulated vigorously during the years after Israel was granted membership to the UN (11 May 1949) as an independent sovereign state (with the last Armistice signed July 49).

• In April 1950, a Jordanian Parliament (composed of half Jordanians and half West Bank Palestinians) exercised their right to declare the West Bank part of Jordan and the West Bank population Jordanian citizens.
• During the 1948-49 War of Independence, the All-Palestine Government (established by the Arab League on 22 September 1948) attempted to establish a new Government for Palestinians that encompassed the entire territory to which the former Mandate applied.

This actually had an impact on something that is near and dear to a number of peoples hearts. If the All-Palestine Government had any legitimacy at all after September 1948 then the Palestinians not considered Israeli citizens, were not refugees, but internally displaced persons during a period of civil war and independence. That is generally why now the Palestinians don't claim the APG as legitimate. That would nullify the Refugee Status; and why UNRWA-CERI (Consolidated Enrollment Registration Instructions) dates for refugees Palestinian covers the period 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948. They want the Civil War displacement covered even though it was a period of displacement under the Mandate.

I don't see it as a period of "no change to legal status." The contemporary Palestinians of today are not the same as the citizenship (Palestinian) applied to the population of the territory to which the former Mandate applied. They are more apply describe as that segment of the population that held citizenship and where Administered under the former All-Palestine Government.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

European settlers versus the local indigenous people is not a civil war. It is an invasion by Europeans. It would be like calling the Boer Zulu war of the early 1800s a civil war.