Who Are The Palestinians?

[theliq]

So since when has gaza and the west bank been Israeli. According to the UN they are Palestinian and have their own leaders, politicians and nation. So why cant the Israelis vote in Palestinian elections ?

Israel, the West Bank, and Gaze are all artificial constructs inside the Palestinian's homeland. Each one has its own level and form of apartheid.

Do you think anyone, apart from the moron, takes any notice of what you say?

Apparently, you do.

Hey Monte, did you hear the one about "Israel is stealing 'Palestinian' land."

Funny.NOT...But I did hear about the one "Where Israel has obtained Billions of US$ from the American Taxpayers" which I though was Bloody Funny.

 

[theliq]

So since when has gaza and the west bank been Israeli. According to the UN they are Palestinian and have their own leaders, politicians and nation. So why cant the Israelis vote in Palestinian elections ?

Israel, the West Bank, and Gaze are all artificial constructs inside the Palestinian's homeland. Each one has its own level and form of apartheid.

Do you think anyone, apart from the moron, takes any notice of what you say?

Apparently, you do.

Not enough to be convinced by your rubbish.

I'm only humouring you.

Ooooo So Funny Mindless......or is that BORING,Yep I got it in one BORING

 

[Mindful]

So since when has gaza and the west bank been Israeli. According to the UN they are Palestinian and have their own leaders, politicians and nation. So why cant the Israelis vote in Palestinian elections ?

Israel, the West Bank, and Gaze are all artificial constructs inside the Palestinian's homeland. Each one has its own level and form of apartheid.

Do you think anyone, apart from the moron, takes any notice of what you say?

Apparently, you do.

Not enough to be convinced by your rubbish.

I'm only humouring you.

Ooooo So Funny Mindless......or is that BORING,Yep I got it in one BORING

 

[MJB12741]

So since when has gaza and the west bank been Israeli. According to the UN they are Palestinian and have their own leaders, politicians and nation. So why cant the Israelis vote in Palestinian elections ?

Israel, the West Bank, and Gaze are all artificial constructs inside the Palestinian's homeland. Each one has its own level and form of apartheid.

Do you think anyone, apart from the moron, takes any notice of what you say?

Apparently, you do.

Hey Monte, did you hear the one about "Israel is stealing 'Palestinian' land."

Funny.NOT...But I did hear about the one "Where Israel has obtained Billions of US$ from the American Taxpayers" which I though was Bloody Funny.

Are you not even aware the Arab countries receive over twice as much in US financial aid than Israel does? Please join with me in praying the US cut off all financial aid to Israel ASAP. And of course to all the Arab countries as well. America First.

Egypt got more foreign aid than anyone besides Israel says New York Times columnist Ross Douthat PolitiFact

 

[Mindful]

Israel, the West Bank, and Gaze are all artificial constructs inside the Palestinian's homeland. Each one has its own level and form of apartheid.

Do you think anyone, apart from the moron, takes any notice of what you say?

Apparently, you do.

Hey Monte, did you hear the one about "Israel is stealing 'Palestinian' land."

Funny.NOT...But I did hear about the one "Where Israel has obtained Billions of US$ from the American Taxpayers" which I though was Bloody Funny.

Are you not even aware the Arab countries receive over twice as much in US financial aid than Israel does? Please join with me in praying the US cut off all financial aid to Israel ASAP. And of course to all the Arab countries as well. America First.

Egypt got more foreign aid than anyone besides Israel says New York Times columnist Ross Douthat PolitiFact

Are you aware that trying to talk to that one in normal parlance is a total waste of time? He's here for another purpose altogether.

 

[MJB12741]

Do you think anyone, apart from the moron, takes any notice of what you say?

Apparently, you do.

Hey Monte, did you hear the one about "Israel is stealing 'Palestinian' land."

Funny.NOT...But I did hear about the one "Where Israel has obtained Billions of US$ from the American Taxpayers" which I though was Bloody Funny.

Are you not even aware the Arab countries receive over twice as much in US financial aid than Israel does? Please join with me in praying the US cut off all financial aid to Israel ASAP. And of course to all the Arab countries as well. America First.

Egypt got more foreign aid than anyone besides Israel says New York Times columnist Ross Douthat PolitiFact

Are you aware that trying to talk to that one in normal parlance is a total waste of time? He's here for another purpose altogether.

Actually he's wonderful. We keep him here for laughs.

 

[montelatici]

Apparently, you do.

Hey Monte, did you hear the one about "Israel is stealing 'Palestinian' land."

Funny.NOT...But I did hear about the one "Where Israel has obtained Billions of US$ from the American Taxpayers" which I though was Bloody Funny.

Are you not even aware the Arab countries receive over twice as much in US financial aid than Israel does? Please join with me in praying the US cut off all financial aid to Israel ASAP. And of course to all the Arab countries as well. America First.

Egypt got more foreign aid than anyone besides Israel says New York Times columnist Ross Douthat PolitiFact

Are you aware that trying to talk to that one in normal parlance is a total waste of time? He's here for another purpose altogether.

Actually he's wonderful. We keep him here for laughs.

As for laughs and entertainment a recent poll has you, Ruddy and Phoney running neck in neck for the most laughs. Please post more, you could win.

 

[Mindful]

Hey Monte, did you hear the one about "Israel is stealing 'Palestinian' land."

Funny.NOT...But I did hear about the one "Where Israel has obtained Billions of US$ from the American Taxpayers" which I though was Bloody Funny.

Are you not even aware the Arab countries receive over twice as much in US financial aid than Israel does? Please join with me in praying the US cut off all financial aid to Israel ASAP. And of course to all the Arab countries as well. America First.

Egypt got more foreign aid than anyone besides Israel says New York Times columnist Ross Douthat PolitiFact

Are you aware that trying to talk to that one in normal parlance is a total waste of time? He's here for another purpose altogether.

Actually he's wonderful. We keep him here for laughs.

As for laughs and entertainment a recent poll has you, Ruddy and Phoney running neck in neck for the most laughs. Please post more, you could win.

Sure.

 

[Mindful]

Apparently, you do.

Hey Monte, did you hear the one about "Israel is stealing 'Palestinian' land."

Funny.NOT...But I did hear about the one "Where Israel has obtained Billions of US$ from the American Taxpayers" which I though was Bloody Funny.

Are you not even aware the Arab countries receive over twice as much in US financial aid than Israel does? Please join with me in praying the US cut off all financial aid to Israel ASAP. And of course to all the Arab countries as well. America First.

Egypt got more foreign aid than anyone besides Israel says New York Times columnist Ross Douthat PolitiFact

Are you aware that trying to talk to that one in normal parlance is a total waste of time? He's here for another purpose altogether.

Actually he's wonderful. We keep him here for laughs.

Laughs? He induces depression.

 

[MJB12741]

Hey Monte, did you hear the one about "Israel is stealing 'Palestinian' land."

Funny.NOT...But I did hear about the one "Where Israel has obtained Billions of US$ from the American Taxpayers" which I though was Bloody Funny.

Are you not even aware the Arab countries receive over twice as much in US financial aid than Israel does? Please join with me in praying the US cut off all financial aid to Israel ASAP. And of course to all the Arab countries as well. America First.

Egypt got more foreign aid than anyone besides Israel says New York Times columnist Ross Douthat PolitiFact

Are you aware that trying to talk to that one in normal parlance is a total waste of time? He's here for another purpose altogether.

Actually he's wonderful. We keep him here for laughs.

As for laughs and entertainment a recent poll has you, Ruddy and Phoney running neck in neck for the most laughs. Please post more, you could win.

Aw bless you Monte for caring about me. Okay I will post more often as you wish.

 

[montelatici]

Thanks for all the laughs!

 

[MJB12741]

Thanks for all the laughs!

Hey Monte, did you hear the one about "Israel is stealing 'Palestinian' land"?

 

[montelatici]

You mean the 85%+ owned by the Christians and Muslims before partition?

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

I know that you think that "land ownership" has something to do with sovereignty. But is doesn't.

• Land ownership is a real estate matter in civil law.
• Sovereignty is a matter of governance.

You mean the 85%+ owned by the Christians and Muslims before partition?

(COMMENT)

As an example in the difference is in the case of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan which does not rule over a Hashemite Population. Jordan has a population that is ethnically Arab 98% (Native to the Kingdom are mostly descended from village-dwellers and Bedouins originating in the Arabian Peninsula. Half of Jordan's population are of Palestinian origin.); with minorities including Circassian 1%, Armenian 1%.

In contrast, the Hashemites (Arab chieftain Quraysh (Quraysh, at one time the ruling tribe of Mecca, that also guarded its most sacred shrine, the Kaʿbah), in the same lineage as the Prophet Ismai) are descendants of the ancient Banu Hahsim (Muhammad - PBUH - was born in 570 of the Hāshemite (Banū Hāshim) branch of the noble house of ʿAbd Manāf; he never lacked protection by his clan).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

You mean the 85%+ owned by the Christians and Muslims before partition?

What about it ?

Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan, the same way the so called Palestinians did so.
If that's stealing, then why did the U.N recognize Israel and make them a full member one year later?

 

[montelatici]

montelatici, et al,

I know that you think that "land ownership" has something to do with sovereignty. But is doesn't.

• Land ownership is a real estate matter in civil law.
• Sovereignty is a matter of governance.

You mean the 85%+ owned by the Christians and Muslims before partition?

(COMMENT)

As an example in the difference is in the case of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan which does not rule over a Hashemite Population. Jordan has a population that is ethnically Arab 98% (Native to the Kingdom are mostly descended from village-dwellers and Bedouins originating in the Arabian Peninsula. Half of Jordan's population are of Palestinian origin.); with minorities including Circassian 1%, Armenian 1%.

In contrast, the Hashemites (Arab chieftain Quraysh (Quraysh, at one time the ruling tribe of Mecca, that also guarded its most sacred shrine, the Kaʿbah), in the same lineage as the Prophet Ismai) are descendants of the ancient Banu Hahsim (Muhammad - PBUH - was born in 570 of the Hāshemite (Banū Hāshim) branch of the noble house of ʿAbd Manāf; he never lacked protection by his clan).

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco et al.

No, I have no doubt that ownership of land has no relationship with sovereignty. But if the owners of the land are dispossessed of the land, it is theft, regardless of sovereignty. The Japanese may own most of the private land in Hawaii, but Hawaii is not under Japanese sovereignty. However, if the U.S. makes up a law that takes the land from the Japanese owners, it is theft.

 

[toastman]

montelatici, et al,

I know that you think that "land ownership" has something to do with sovereignty. But is doesn't.

• Land ownership is a real estate matter in civil law.
• Sovereignty is a matter of governance.

You mean the 85%+ owned by the Christians and Muslims before partition?

(COMMENT)

As an example in the difference is in the case of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan which does not rule over a Hashemite Population. Jordan has a population that is ethnically Arab 98% (Native to the Kingdom are mostly descended from village-dwellers and Bedouins originating in the Arabian Peninsula. Half of Jordan's population are of Palestinian origin.); with minorities including Circassian 1%, Armenian 1%.

In contrast, the Hashemites (Arab chieftain Quraysh (Quraysh, at one time the ruling tribe of Mecca, that also guarded its most sacred shrine, the Kaʿbah), in the same lineage as the Prophet Ismai) are descendants of the ancient Banu Hahsim (Muhammad - PBUH - was born in 570 of the Hāshemite (Banū Hāshim) branch of the noble house of ʿAbd Manāf; he never lacked protection by his clan).

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco et al.

No, I have no doubt that ownership of land has no relationship with sovereignty. But if the owners of the land are dispossessed of the land, it is theft, regardless of sovereignty. The Japanese may own most of the private land in Hawaii, but Hawaii is not under Japanese sovereignty. However, if the U.S. makes up a law that takes the land from the Japanese owners, it is theft.

They were dispossessed AFTER they joined 5 Arab armies in trying to destroy Israel and dispossess the Jews. Why do you always leave that part out ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

montelatici, et al,

I know that you think that "land ownership" has something to do with sovereignty. But is doesn't.

• Land ownership is a real estate matter in civil law.
• Sovereignty is a matter of governance.

You mean the 85%+ owned by the Christians and Muslims before partition?

(COMMENT)

As an example in the difference is in the case of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan which does not rule over a Hashemite Population. Jordan has a population that is ethnically Arab 98% (Native to the Kingdom are mostly descended from village-dwellers and Bedouins originating in the Arabian Peninsula. Half of Jordan's population are of Palestinian origin.); with minorities including Circassian 1%, Armenian 1%.

In contrast, the Hashemites (Arab chieftain Quraysh (Quraysh, at one time the ruling tribe of Mecca, that also guarded its most sacred shrine, the Kaʿbah), in the same lineage as the Prophet Ismai) are descendants of the ancient Banu Hahsim (Muhammad - PBUH - was born in 570 of the Hāshemite (Banū Hāshim) branch of the noble house of ʿAbd Manāf; he never lacked protection by his clan).

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco et al.

No, I have no doubt that ownership of land has no relationship with sovereignty. But if the owners of the land are dispossessed of the land, it is theft, regardless of sovereignty. The Japanese may own most of the private land in Hawaii, but Hawaii is not under Japanese sovereignty. However, if the U.S. makes up a law that takes the land from the Japanese owners, it is theft.

They were dispossessed AFTER they joined 5 Arab armies in trying to destroy Israel and dispossess the Jews. Why do you always leave that part out ?

Because it is not true. Half of the Palestinians were dispossessed before the beginning of the 1948 war. The 1948 war kept Israel from cleansing all of Palestine.

Overall, though, the 1948 war had no effect on Palestine's legal status.

 

[toastman]

montelatici, et al,

I know that you think that "land ownership" has something to do with sovereignty. But is doesn't.

• Land ownership is a real estate matter in civil law.
• Sovereignty is a matter of governance.

You mean the 85%+ owned by the Christians and Muslims before partition?

(COMMENT)

As an example in the difference is in the case of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan which does not rule over a Hashemite Population. Jordan has a population that is ethnically Arab 98% (Native to the Kingdom are mostly descended from village-dwellers and Bedouins originating in the Arabian Peninsula. Half of Jordan's population are of Palestinian origin.); with minorities including Circassian 1%, Armenian 1%.

In contrast, the Hashemites (Arab chieftain Quraysh (Quraysh, at one time the ruling tribe of Mecca, that also guarded its most sacred shrine, the Kaʿbah), in the same lineage as the Prophet Ismai) are descendants of the ancient Banu Hahsim (Muhammad - PBUH - was born in 570 of the Hāshemite (Banū Hāshim) branch of the noble house of ʿAbd Manāf; he never lacked protection by his clan).

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco et al.

No, I have no doubt that ownership of land has no relationship with sovereignty. But if the owners of the land are dispossessed of the land, it is theft, regardless of sovereignty. The Japanese may own most of the private land in Hawaii, but Hawaii is not under Japanese sovereignty. However, if the U.S. makes up a law that takes the land from the Japanese owners, it is theft.

They were dispossessed AFTER they joined 5 Arab armies in trying to destroy Israel and dispossess the Jews. Why do you always leave that part out ?

Because it is not true. Half of the Palestinians were dispossessed before the beginning of the 1948 war. The 1948 war kept Israel from cleansing all of Palestine.

Overall, though, the 1948 war had no effect on Palestine's legal status.

Can you document that?

Many Palestians fled upon hearing false news, which I recently documented. But some Palestinians were dispossessed during the 1947 war, which was also started by the Palestinians.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You mean the 85%+ owned by the Christians and Muslims before partition?

What about it ?

Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan, the same way the so called Palestinians did so.
If that's stealing, then why did the U.N recognize Israel and make them a full member one year later?

Israel declared independence on land allotted to her by the partition plan,...​

No it didn't.