Who Are The Palestinians?

[Phoenall]

[QUOTE="Phoenall, post: 11111339, member: 35705"



Then maybe it needs to be translated for you as you seem to have a problem with understanding English. The Mandate for Palestine states that Palestine is for the Jews national home. You claim that the mandate had nothing to do with setting up Israel.setting

you always leave this part out... it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine,[/QUOTE]




WRONG AGAIN as I always include it when I quote the Mandate, now why do you always leave out the parts dealing with the Jews rights ?

 

[fanger]

You didnt that time did you?

 

[Phoenall]

You didnt that time did you?

Did I quote the Mandate and give a link, or did I just mention in passing whet the mandate says in general.

So easy to make a fool look an even bigger fool

 

[fanger]

"whet the mandate says" bigger fool?

 

[Phoenall]

"whet the mandate says" bigger fool?

And the grasper of straws goes against zone 2 rules when a typo is made, keep on topic and debate the post not the person.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

No matter what you may think, it was not a "unilateral move that was unrelated to anything else;" meaning performed by Jewish population without the agreement of UN (successor to the League of Nations) or the UN Palestine Commission (UNPC) (successor government to the Mandatory).

First, there was a UN Special Commission on Palestine recommendation (both a Majority version and a Minority version).
THEN, the was the General Assembly Recommendation 181(II) itself, which included the partitioning of a Jewish State.
THEN there was the general coordination between the Jewish Agency and the UNPC in the completion of the Step Preparatory to Independence.
THEN there was the 14 May Jewish Agency Coordination with the UNPC on the announcement of "Independence."
THEN there was the official Public Announcement by the UN:

During today's brief meeting, Dr. Eduardo Morgan (Panama) said that this resolution of the Assembly merely "relieves responsibility. The Commission has not been dissolved. In fact the resolution of last November 29 has been implemented."

Dr. Paul Diez de Medina (Bolivia) said that the Assembly last Friday did only two things. First, he said, "it appointed a mediator between the parties and that in itself is reaffirmation of partition." The second part of the reference to the Commission expressed appreciation for the work performed, and that, he said, was also reaffirmation for partition. PAL169 17 MAY 48

montelatici, et al,

This is often expressed by pro-Palestinian activists; trying for the appeal to emotion.

The alien(s) is/are the Europeans who settled in Palestine, all of Palestine, facilitated by the European colonial power, Great Britain.

(COMMENT)

In my opinion, there was to colonial activity in the Middle East. And the application of the non-binding concepts of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960 Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples are not really applicable to the Mandate System in that:

• The intention of Mandate was the creation of conditions of stability and well-being and peaceful and friendly relations based on respect for the principles of equal rights and self-determination of all peoples.
• The intention of Mandate was to extend the universal respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language or religion,
• The intention of Mandate was the creation of conditions that would advance the attainment of their independence.

Considering the important role of the League of Nations, and the UN, (the successor governments to which the Ottoman Empire and Turkey surrendered all rights of suzerainty or jurisdiction, had in the establishment of all the Arab governments in the Middle East (territory formerly under the sovereignty of the Ottoman Empire) in assisting the various bids for independence in Trusts and Non-Self-Governing Territories, it should be noted that the nations upon which such powers of guardianship were conferred exercise them "as Mandatories on behalf of the League of Nations.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but the Mandate had nothing to do with the creation of Israel.

That is not to say that the Mandate was not complicit in setting the stage for Israel's military takeover of Palestine. Britain did provide the political and military power to protect the pre state colonization of Palestine by the Zionists. Britain allowed the Zionists to create a state within a state, including a military, while denying the same to the Palestinians.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral move that was unrelated to anything else.

BULLSHIT

The Mandate for Palestine was set up primarily to enable the Jews to set up their National Home. It even says so in the first 10 articles, or don't you read the links you keep demanding

I have.

Where does it conflict with my post?

(COMMENT)

F. ADMISSION TO MEMBERSHIP IN THE UNITED NATIONS
When the independence of either the Arab or the Jewish State as envisaged in this plan has become effective and the declaration and undertaking, as envisaged in this plan, have been signed by either of them, sympathetic consideration should be given to its application for admission to membership in the United Nations in accordance with Article 4 of the Charter of the United Nations.

There was no such thing as "unilateral" action. The Jewish Agency did it all in the open light of day, with the UN onboard with every action.

Most Respectfully,
R

\

 

[montelatici]

What do you call settling people from another continent on land that the people living there were opposed to?

Islamonazi illegal immigration which is happening in Europe, Africa, America and Australia. Care to explain why you are blind to these illegal colonial settling by your fellow muslims ?

I am against allowing Muslims to immigrate freely to Europe in great numbers. I want to keep Europe European and Christian as much as possible. But, what does that have to do with hordes of Europeans (Zionists) settling in Palestine and and evicting the local people?

 

[montelatici]

[QUOTE="Phoenall, post: 11111339, member: 35705"



Then maybe it needs to be translated for you as you seem to have a problem with understanding English. The Mandate for Palestine states that Palestine is for the Jews national home. You claim that the mandate had nothing to do with setting up Israel.setting

you always leave this part out... it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine,

WRONG AGAIN as I always include it when I quote the Mandate, now why do you always leave out the parts dealing with the Jews rights ?[/QUOTE]

Colonial settler's "rights" are an absurd construction. Colonization and eviction of local people, as a result of the colonization, is a crime, regardless of what religion the colonizers are.

 

[toastman]

theliq, et al,

I see nothing above that substantiates your outlandish claim that: "Israel is an Illegal State." --- Although I see this quite often from pro-Palestinian Activist.

Israel is an ILLEGAL State,see comment above..........you are perpetuating and supporting this Illegal State........like most of your (Most Respectfully) comments,they mean nought,nothing,zilch......so STOP this erroneous commentary of yours......Resectfully or NOT

(OBSERVATIONS)

PLAN OF PARTITION WITH ECONOMIC UNION --- PART I --- Future constitution and government of Palestine
Section B --- STEPS PREPARATORY TO INDEPENDENCE --- Resolution 181 (II) of the General Assembly, dated 29 November 1947
PART II --- Boundaries --- Section A. - THE ARAB STATE Section B - THE JEWISH STATE

• S/747 16 May 1948 Declaration of Independence
• S/1093 29 November 1948 Application for Admission to the UN
• S/RES/69 S/1277 4 March 1949 Favorable UN Security Council Recommendation
• A/RES/273 (III) 11 May 1949 General Assembly Decides to admit Israel to membership in the United Nations.

(COMMENT)

I fail to see the justification for your comment that "Israel is an ILLEGAL State."

Most Respectfully,
R

It's an illegal state because it was created in direct violation of the will of the majority of the population of Palestine, and it's admission to the UN was based on Israel's adherance to two UN resolutions.

"Recalling its resolutions of 29 November 1947 3/ and 11 December 1948 4/ and taking note of the declarations and explanationsmade by the representative of the Government of Israel 5/ before the ad hoc Political Committee in respect of the implementation of the said resolutions,"

Which it has failed to do.

Again, 'Palestine' used 181 in 1988 to declare independence.

 

[toastman]

theliq, et al,

I see nothing above that substantiates your outlandish claim that: "Israel is an Illegal State." --- Although I see this quite often from pro-Palestinian Activist.

Israel is an ILLEGAL State,see comment above..........you are perpetuating and supporting this Illegal State........like most of your (Most Respectfully) comments,they mean nought,nothing,zilch......so STOP this erroneous commentary of yours......Resectfully or NOT

(OBSERVATIONS)

PLAN OF PARTITION WITH ECONOMIC UNION --- PART I --- Future constitution and government of Palestine
Section B --- STEPS PREPARATORY TO INDEPENDENCE --- Resolution 181 (II) of the General Assembly, dated 29 November 1947
PART II --- Boundaries --- Section A. - THE ARAB STATE Section B - THE JEWISH STATE

• S/747 16 May 1948 Declaration of Independence
• S/1093 29 November 1948 Application for Admission to the UN
• S/RES/69 S/1277 4 March 1949 Favorable UN Security Council Recommendation
• A/RES/273 (III) 11 May 1949 General Assembly Decides to admit Israel to membership in the United Nations.

(COMMENT)

I fail to see the justification for your comment that "Israel is an ILLEGAL State."

Most Respectfully,
R

It's an illegal state because it was created in direct violation of the will of the majority of the population of Palestine, and it's admission to the UN was based on Israel's adherance to two UN resolutions.

"Recalling its resolutions of 29 November 1947 3/ and 11 December 1948 4/ and taking note of the declarations and explanationsmade by the representative of the Government of Israel 5/ before the ad hoc Political Committee in respect of the implementation of the said resolutions,"

Which it has failed to do.

BTW, you have zero evidence that shows Israel is illegal "it was created in direct violation of the will of the majority of the population of Palestine, and it's admission to the UN was based on Israel's adherance to two UN resolutions"

This is complete bullshit. You make up jibberish like this because of your hatred for Israel. If Israel was not allowed to become a country because of your stupid reasons, then the U.N would not have fully recognized Israel AND give her full UN membership.

 

[aris2chat]

[QUOTE="Phoenall, post: 11111339, member: 35705"



Then maybe it needs to be translated for you as you seem to have a problem with understanding English. The Mandate for Palestine states that Palestine is for the Jews national home. You claim that the mandate had nothing to do with setting up Israel.setting

you always leave this part out... it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine,[/QUOTE]

They were free to practice their faith, they still are.

When jordan held Jerusalem, it was not so.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Refresh my memory.

Colonial settler's "rights" are an absurd construction. Colonization and eviction of local people, as a result of the colonization, is a crime, regardless of what religion the colonizers are.

(QUESTION)

Exactly what law specifies this "crime" you are talking about?
Currently there is a Treaty between Israel and the States of Egypt and Jordan. Which treaty is being violated? Which settlers are violating what particular borders?

(COMMENT)

Rather difficult to apply the GCIV to the 1948 War when the GCIV did not come into effect until August 1949. AND, the GCIV proscribes "forcible" actions.

Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.
Article 49​

• • 
    Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.

You cannot be applying Article 8; Paragraph 2b(viii) - Rome Statues,

• 
  (viii) The transfer, directly or indirectly, by the Occupying Power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies, or the deportation or transfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory;

Israel is not a signatory to this convention. The Rome Statutes did not become applicable to the territory to which the former Mandate applied, until the Rome Statute entered into force on 1 July 2002. The Arab Palestinians were not a party to the conflict between Israel and the neighboring aggressor states of Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Syria.

Israel did not deportation or transfer the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory; after 1967.

Currently there is a Treaty between Israel and the States of Egypt and Jordan.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

Britain facilitated and abetted the transfer of Europeans to Palestine, while fully cognizant that the transfer would result in the displacement of the local people. They had no intention adhering to the Mandate which stated that "nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine". Since the establishment of a European state in Palestine seriously prejudiced and civil and religious rights of the existing (note the word existing) non-Jewish communities in Palestine, the terms of the Mandate were not followed. Hence, the illegality.

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

 

[Phoenall]

What do you call settling people from another continent on land that the people living there were opposed to?

Islamonazi illegal immigration which is happening in Europe, Africa, America and Australia. Care to explain why you are blind to these illegal colonial settling by your fellow muslims ?

I am against allowing Muslims to immigrate freely to Europe in great numbers. I want to keep Europe European and Christian as much as possible. But, what does that have to do with hordes of Europeans (Zionists) settling in Palestine and and evicting the local people?

What hordes of Europeans settling in Palestine and evicting local people. The people most evicted were the Jews when over 1 million were brutally dragged from their homes, beaten, raped and some murdered by arab muslims and forced to flee for their lives.

REMEMBER THE JEWS WERE RETURNING HOME TO LAND GIVEN TO THEM BY THE LEGAL OWNERS. FROM 1922 UNCLAIMED LAND BECAME THE PROPERTY OF THE NEW LAND OWNERS AND NOT THE ILLEGAL ARAB MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS.

 

[Phoenall]

[QUOTE="Phoenall, post: 11111339, member: 35705"



Then maybe it needs to be translated for you as you seem to have a problem with understanding English. The Mandate for Palestine states that Palestine is for the Jews national home. You claim that the mandate had nothing to do with setting up Israel.setting

you always leave this part out... it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine,

WRONG AGAIN as I always include it when I quote the Mandate, now why do you always leave out the parts dealing with the Jews rights ?

Colonial settler's "rights" are an absurd construction. Colonization and eviction of local people, as a result of the colonization, is a crime, regardless of what religion the colonizers are.[/QUOTE]




WRONG as International law says the Jews were the lands legal owners and the arab muslims are illegal immigrants.

Now why do you always defend the mass expulsions and massacres of the Jews from the M.E. and claim they were the ones doing the murders and evictions.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

No matter what you may think, it was not a "unilateral move that was unrelated to anything else;" meaning performed by Jewish population without the agreement of UN (successor to the League of Nations) or the UN Palestine Commission (UNPC) (successor government to the Mandatory).

First, there was a UN Special Commission on Palestine recommendation (both a Majority version and a Minority version).
THEN, the was the General Assembly Recommendation 181(II) itself, which included the partitioning of a Jewish State.
THEN there was the general coordination between the Jewish Agency and the UNPC in the completion of the Step Preparatory to Independence.
THEN there was the 14 May Jewish Agency Coordination with the UNPC on the announcement of "Independence."
THEN there was the official Public Announcement by the UN:

During today's brief meeting, Dr. Eduardo Morgan (Panama) said that this resolution of the Assembly merely "relieves responsibility. The Commission has not been dissolved. In fact the resolution of last November 29 has been implemented."

Dr. Paul Diez de Medina (Bolivia) said that the Assembly last Friday did only two things. First, he said, "it appointed a mediator between the parties and that in itself is reaffirmation of partition." The second part of the reference to the Commission expressed appreciation for the work performed, and that, he said, was also reaffirmation for partition. PAL169 17 MAY 48

montelatici, et al,

This is often expressed by pro-Palestinian activists; trying for the appeal to emotion.

The alien(s) is/are the Europeans who settled in Palestine, all of Palestine, facilitated by the European colonial power, Great Britain.

(COMMENT)

In my opinion, there was to colonial activity in the Middle East. And the application of the non-binding concepts of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960 Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples are not really applicable to the Mandate System in that:

• The intention of Mandate was the creation of conditions of stability and well-being and peaceful and friendly relations based on respect for the principles of equal rights and self-determination of all peoples.
• The intention of Mandate was to extend the universal respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language or religion,
• The intention of Mandate was the creation of conditions that would advance the attainment of their independence.

Considering the important role of the League of Nations, and the UN, (the successor governments to which the Ottoman Empire and Turkey surrendered all rights of suzerainty or jurisdiction, had in the establishment of all the Arab governments in the Middle East (territory formerly under the sovereignty of the Ottoman Empire) in assisting the various bids for independence in Trusts and Non-Self-Governing Territories, it should be noted that the nations upon which such powers of guardianship were conferred exercise them "as Mandatories on behalf of the League of Nations.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, but the Mandate had nothing to do with the creation of Israel.

That is not to say that the Mandate was not complicit in setting the stage for Israel's military takeover of Palestine. Britain did provide the political and military power to protect the pre state colonization of Palestine by the Zionists. Britain allowed the Zionists to create a state within a state, including a military, while denying the same to the Palestinians.

The creation of Israel was a unilateral move that was unrelated to anything else.

BULLSHIT

The Mandate for Palestine was set up primarily to enable the Jews to set up their National Home. It even says so in the first 10 articles, or don't you read the links you keep demanding

I have.

Where does it conflict with my post?

(COMMENT)

F. ADMISSION TO MEMBERSHIP IN THE UNITED NATIONS
When the independence of either the Arab or the Jewish State as envisaged in this plan has become effective and the declaration and undertaking, as envisaged in this plan, have been signed by either of them, sympathetic consideration should be given to its application for admission to membership in the United Nations in accordance with Article 4 of the Charter of the United Nations.

There was no such thing as "unilateral" action. The Jewish Agency did it all in the open light of day, with the UN onboard with every action.

Most Respectfully,
R

\

What were the issues that they discusses? Were there any compromises?
Were there agreements on the peoples rights and defined borders?

Surely you can document these things.

 

[Phoenall]

Britain facilitated and abetted the transfer of Europeans to Palestine, while fully cognizant that the transfer would result in the displacement of the local people. They had no intention adhering to the Mandate which stated that "nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine". Since the establishment of a European state in Palestine seriously prejudiced and civil and religious rights of the existing (note the word existing) non-Jewish communities in Palestine, the terms of the Mandate were not followed. Hence, the illegality.

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

Remember that 1922 civil and religious rights are what you need to look at here and not UN charters or resolutions. So what civil and religious rights as they were in 1922 did the non Jewish communities lose. The Jews lost more rights when they were forcibly evicted, abused, beaten, raped and murdered by the arab muslims who breached this part of the same International law

or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country

As for you link it is not a legally binding document , just a preamble to a future change in policy. Now were is the change in policy and when did it take place. ( by the way I hold a white paper and the change in policy which are dated 18 months apart, the white paper details proposed changes in the Telecommunications acts that require users of telecommunications equipment to reach certain criteria and to give a fair representation of themselves. We were invited to give out views on the proposals and succeeded in having many of the unfair and unworkable aspects removed or re-written. The white paper was not law, and was never intended to be law, just a set of proposals. That is how it was originally set out all those years ago )

 

[P F Tinmore]

Britain facilitated and abetted the transfer of Europeans to Palestine, while fully cognizant that the transfer would result in the displacement of the local people. They had no intention adhering to the Mandate which stated that "nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine". Since the establishment of a European state in Palestine seriously prejudiced and civil and religious rights of the existing (note the word existing) non-Jewish communities in Palestine, the terms of the Mandate were not followed. Hence, the illegality.

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

Remember that 1922 civil and religious rights are what you need to look at here and not UN charters or resolutions. So what civil and religious rights as they were in 1922 did the non Jewish communities lose. The Jews lost more rights when they were forcibly evicted, abused, beaten, raped and murdered by the arab muslims who breached this part of the same International law

or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country

As for you link it is not a legally binding document , just a preamble to a future change in policy. Now were is the change in policy and when did it take place. ( by the way I hold a white paper and the change in policy which are dated 18 months apart, the white paper details proposed changes in the Telecommunications acts that require users of telecommunications equipment to reach certain criteria and to give a fair representation of themselves. We were invited to give out views on the proposals and succeeded in having many of the unfair and unworkable aspects removed or re-written. The white paper was not law, and was never intended to be law, just a set of proposals. That is how it was originally set out all those years ago )

The Jews lost more rights when they were forcibly evicted, abused, beaten, raped and murdered by the arab muslims who breached this part of the same International law​

OK, but the Palestinians had nothing to do with that.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I have given you this any number of times. The documentation is found at:

• Documents Distributed to, the Commission, 9 January-17 February 1948. Annotated Check List. 18 February 1948.
• Documents Distributed to the Commission, 18 February-8 March 1948. Annotated Check List. 9 March 1948.
• Documents Distributed to the Commission, 9 March-24 March 1948. Annotated Check List. 25 March 1948.
• Documents distributed to the Commission, 25 March-11 May 1948. Annotated Check List, 12 May 1948

I find it interesting that you (personally) challenge the these various organs of statecraft to your standard personal standard and not the reality of that day; as if that actually impacts their true accomplishment and disputes their validity.

What were the issues that they discusses? Were there any compromises?
Were there agreements on the peoples rights and defined borders?

Surely you can document these things.

(COMMENT)

There are any number of thing that were discussed --- covering a wide range of issues (matters of State) --- for which the Arab Higher Committee had declined to include their voice. And so they were not consulted. These include, but are not limited to: (One and half month sample)

• 05/14/1948 A/AC.21/UK/144 UN Palestine Commission - Food supplies for Palestine - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 05/14/1948 A/AC.21/UK/143 UN Palestine Commission - Release of Sterling balances - Letter from United Kingdom
• 05/11/1948 A/AC.21/UK/141 UN Palestine Commission - Palestine Currency Board - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 05/11/1948 A/AC.21/SR.75 UN Palestine Commission - Postal services, Government of Palestine records, GoP civil servants - UNPC 75th mtg. - Summary record
• 04/26/1948 A/AC.21/JA/40 UN Palestine Commission - Free Sterling allocations - Communication from the Jewish Agency for Palestine
  
• 04/26/1948 A/AC.21/UK/125 UN Palestine Commission - Fuel situation in Jerusalem - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 04/26/1948 A/AC.21/UK/127 UN Palestine Commission - Loans from Bearer Bond Balances - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 04/26/1948 A/AC.21/UK/126 UN Palestine Commission - Situation in Haifa - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 04/24/1948 A/AC.21/UK/124 UN Palestine Commission - Situation in Haifa/Urgent matters - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 04/24/1948 A/AC.21/UK/122 UN Palestine Commission - Postal Services in Palestine - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 04/23/1948 A/AC.21/UK/123 UN Palestine Commission - Situation in Haifa - Letter from United Kingdom

General Headings were:

I. Administrative and Legal, including

(a) Planning in conjunction with the Mandatory Power the transfer of the Administration of Palestine from the Mandatory Power to the Commission and eventually to the two States and to the City of Jerusalem.
(b) Effecting the same transfer and assisting in the setting up of the two States and the City.
(c) Co-ordinating the operation of the two Provisional Councils of Government. This item would involve questions relating to the administration of justice, prisons, municipal law-in-force, establishment and supervision of administrative organs of control and local, government, electoral laws, supervision of elections, citizenship.​

II. Economic and Financial, including

(a) The establishment of the Economic Union and the Joint Economic Board by the Preparatory Economic Commission.
(b) The preparation of the draft undertaking regarding Economic Union and Freedom of Transit.
(c) The maintenance of essential economic services in the transitional period before the States and the Economic Union are fully functioning.
(d) Allocation and distribution of assets.​

III. Security, including

(a) Political and military control over militia in each of the States, including selection of the high command.
(b) Questions of public order,​

IV. Boundaries, including

The definition and establishment of boundaries.​

V. Social Cultural and Religious, including

(a) The maintenance of adequate standards of public health and education.
(b) The protection of Holy Places,​

VI. Preparation for Application of United Nations Statute for City of Jerusalem​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[MJB12741]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I have given you this any number of times. The documentation is found at:

• Documents Distributed to, the Commission, 9 January-17 February 1948. Annotated Check List. 18 February 1948.
• Documents Distributed to the Commission, 18 February-8 March 1948. Annotated Check List. 9 March 1948.
• Documents Distributed to the Commission, 9 March-24 March 1948. Annotated Check List. 25 March 1948.
• Documents distributed to the Commission, 25 March-11 May 1948. Annotated Check List, 12 May 1948

I find it interesting that you (personally) challenge the these various organs of statecraft to your standard personal standard and not the reality of that day; as if that actually impacts their true accomplishment and disputes their validity.

What were the issues that they discusses? Were there any compromises?
Were there agreements on the peoples rights and defined borders?

Surely you can document these things.

(COMMENT)

There are any number of thing that were discussed --- covering a wide range of issues (matters of State) --- for which the Arab Higher Committee had declined to include their voice. And so they were not consulted. These include, but are not limited to: (One and half month sample)

• 05/14/1948 A/AC.21/UK/144 UN Palestine Commission - Food supplies for Palestine - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 05/14/1948 A/AC.21/UK/143 UN Palestine Commission - Release of Sterling balances - Letter from United Kingdom
• 05/11/1948 A/AC.21/UK/141 UN Palestine Commission - Palestine Currency Board - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 05/11/1948 A/AC.21/SR.75 UN Palestine Commission - Postal services, Government of Palestine records, GoP civil servants - UNPC 75th mtg. - Summary record
• 04/26/1948 A/AC.21/JA/40 UN Palestine Commission - Free Sterling allocations - Communication from the Jewish Agency for Palestine
  
• 04/26/1948 A/AC.21/UK/125 UN Palestine Commission - Fuel situation in Jerusalem - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 04/26/1948 A/AC.21/UK/127 UN Palestine Commission - Loans from Bearer Bond Balances - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 04/26/1948 A/AC.21/UK/126 UN Palestine Commission - Situation in Haifa - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 04/24/1948 A/AC.21/UK/124 UN Palestine Commission - Situation in Haifa/Urgent matters - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 04/24/1948 A/AC.21/UK/122 UN Palestine Commission - Postal Services in Palestine - Letter from United Kingdom
  
• 04/23/1948 A/AC.21/UK/123 UN Palestine Commission - Situation in Haifa - Letter from United Kingdom

General Headings were:

I. Administrative and Legal, including

(a) Planning in conjunction with the Mandatory Power the transfer of the Administration of Palestine from the Mandatory Power to the Commission and eventually to the two States and to the City of Jerusalem.
(b) Effecting the same transfer and assisting in the setting up of the two States and the City.
(c) Co-ordinating the operation of the two Provisional Councils of Government. This item would involve questions relating to the administration of justice, prisons, municipal law-in-force, establishment and supervision of administrative organs of control and local, government, electoral laws, supervision of elections, citizenship.​

II. Economic and Financial, including

(a) The establishment of the Economic Union and the Joint Economic Board by the Preparatory Economic Commission.
(b) The preparation of the draft undertaking regarding Economic Union and Freedom of Transit.
(c) The maintenance of essential economic services in the transitional period before the States and the Economic Union are fully functioning.
(d) Allocation and distribution of assets.​

III. Security, including

(a) Political and military control over militia in each of the States, including selection of the high command.
(b) Questions of public order,​

IV. Boundaries, including

The definition and establishment of boundaries.​

V. Social Cultural and Religious, including

(a) The maintenance of adequate standards of public health and education.
(b) The protection of Holy Places,​

VI. Preparation for Application of United Nations Statute for City of Jerusalem​

Most Respectfully,
R

Uh oh!. This reply by RoccoR is so well documented with unbiased facts I fear it will piss off the Pali supporters. Sure hope they don't leave this board. Where would we go for fun & laughs if they ever do?