Who Are The Palestinians?

[MJB12741]

I too am opposed to the occupation. Problem is no surrounding Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their native homelands. Do you think maybe Mecca would be a nice place for a Palestinian State?

Nobody wants them because they are the product of generations of hatred.

Then you explain why nobody wants them?
They have like 14 islamic countries, why don't they live in one of them?

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

There is no such country. There is the PA and G. They are not a single people nor is their government united. They each have different laws and aims.
There was no country called palestine, only a mandated appointed by the LoN and later by the UN.
Even the name palestine or palestinians authority is foreign, it is not arab. They do not have their language, history, religion or culture. The land was Israel, Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Byzantine, Persian, Arab, Muslim, Mongol, Turk, Syrian but never palestinian.

The question is why does Israel allow the Palestinian squatters to remain when no Arab country ever treated them like Israel does with peace offerings, a security fence & land concessions?

 

[ChrisL]

Nobody wants them because they are the product of generations of hatred.

Then you explain why nobody wants them?
They have like 14 islamic countries, why don't they live in one of them?

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

Did you know that, according to studies of Palestinian lineage and genealogy, Jews and "Palestinians" are the same? Yup. What do you think of that?

 

[ChrisL]

montelatici

Challenger

The theory is that Jews who remained in Palestine mixed a little with Arabs but have maintained their lineage and converted to the "Muslim" religion at some time in the long ago past. IOW, Palestinians ARE actually related to the original Jews who inhabited the area.

I'm interested in your reactions and opinions to this.

 

[ChrisL]

Nobody wants them because they are the product of generations of hatred.

Then you explain why nobody wants them?
They have like 14 islamic countries, why don't they live in one of them?

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

 

[MJB12741]

Then you explain why nobody wants them?
They have like 14 islamic countries, why don't they live in one of them?

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

 

[montelatici]

Then you explain why nobody wants them?
They have like 14 islamic countries, why don't they live in one of them?

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

So what?

 

[ChrisL]

Then you explain why nobody wants them?
They have like 14 islamic countries, why don't they live in one of them?

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

So what?

So . . . today's "palestinian people", according to geneticists are descendants of the Jews who originally inhabited the area.

 

[montelatici]

Then you explain why nobody wants them?
They have like 14 islamic countries, why don't they live in one of them?

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

 

[ChrisL]

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Lol. Of course there should, Palestinians were actually JEWS at one time. Their lineage says so.

 

[aris2chat]

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

So what?

So . . . today's "palestinian people", according to geneticists are descendants of the Jews who originally inhabited the area.

can't get away from the fact it was the land of the jews.

 

[ChrisL]

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

 

[MJB12741]

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

 

[ChrisL]

What the genetic findings say to me is that it was Jewish people who originally inhabited the territory. Then, when Islam came into play, some of these Jews converted, and of course some would when given the choice of "convert or die." Others remained faithful to their Jewish religion. The ones who did convert are who are now known as "palestinians." But they ALL come from the same "blood line" so to speak. So . . . "Muslim palestinians" are descended from the Jewish people who originally inhabited the area.

 

[Mr.Right]

Let the truth be known to all.

Who Are The Palestinians What And Where Is Palestine

A mighty Jewish empire extended over this entire area before the Arabs and their Islam were even born! The Jewish People have one of the most legitimate Birth Certificates of any nations in the world. And if you want to talk religion, fine. G-d GAVE the Land of Israel to the Jewish People. And G-d does nothing by accident!

That's as far as I got, a mighty Jewish empire never existed.

Also since most Jews in Israel are secular, we'll leave God out of it.

(let me add, and if you insist God gave them the land, well God give it and God take it , which should be evident as no temple there, and Britain is not God).

And there was no arab muslim ownership of Palestine from 1099 until 1988. And there second most holy place "allegedly" was allowed to fall into ruin 3 times while islam was in control of the land.

You know what it doesn't matter, they were living there when the Zionist came so there.

By your logic, a squatter that moves into your house should be allowed to stay.

 

[ChrisL]

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

So what?

So . . . today's "palestinian people", according to geneticists are descendants of the Jews who originally inhabited the area.

can't get away from the fact it was the land of the jews.

Thank you. It's nice to see someone who understands the data and what it implicates.

 

[aris2chat]

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

So what?

So . . . today's "palestinian people", according to geneticists are descendants of the Jews who originally inhabited the area.

can't get away from the fact it was the land of the jews.

Thank you. It's nice to see someone who understands the data and what it implicates.

As much as they might want, the jewish past cannot be wiped out. Even if like ISIS the monuments and archeological evidence were destroyed, the historical documentation from other lands will still exist. The history and genealogy will still have been recorded. Knowledge of the jews will still live on....even within the quran

 

[ChrisL]

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

So what?

So . . . today's "palestinian people", according to geneticists are descendants of the Jews who originally inhabited the area.

can't get away from the fact it was the land of the jews.

Thank you. It's nice to see someone who understands the data and what it implicates.

As much as they might want, the jewish past cannot be wiped out. Even if like ISIS the monuments and archeological evidence were destroyed, the historical documentation from other lands will still exist. The history and genealogy will still have been recorded. Knowledge of the jews will still live on....even within the quran

Another great point there. Jewish people are mentioned in the Qu'ran, which dates back to what? Over 1000 years ago?

 

[aris2chat]

So what?

So . . . today's "palestinian people", according to geneticists are descendants of the Jews who originally inhabited the area.

can't get away from the fact it was the land of the jews.

Thank you. It's nice to see someone who understands the data and what it implicates.

As much as they might want, the jewish past cannot be wiped out. Even if like ISIS the monuments and archeological evidence were destroyed, the historical documentation from other lands will still exist. The history and genealogy will still have been recorded. Knowledge of the jews will still live on....even within the quran

Another great point there. Jewish people are mentioned in the Qu'ran, which dates back to what? Over 1000 years ago?

Where are the millennia of artifacts and global documentation of a palestine? What is there before WWI beside rome changing the name of gaza and sinai into P-1, P-2 and P-3? A foreign name that is not part of the arab vocabulary till the 20th C

 

[ChrisL]

So . . . today's "palestinian people", according to geneticists are descendants of the Jews who originally inhabited the area.

can't get away from the fact it was the land of the jews.

Thank you. It's nice to see someone who understands the data and what it implicates.

As much as they might want, the jewish past cannot be wiped out. Even if like ISIS the monuments and archeological evidence were destroyed, the historical documentation from other lands will still exist. The history and genealogy will still have been recorded. Knowledge of the jews will still live on....even within the quran

Another great point there. Jewish people are mentioned in the Qu'ran, which dates back to what? Over 1000 years ago?

Where are the millennia of artifacts and global documentation of a palestine? What is there before WWI beside rome changing the name of gaza and sinai into P-1, P-2 and P-3? A foreign name that is not part of the arab vocabulary till the 20th C

Obviously, Palestine was just a part of the Ottoman empire and nothing more. It never was a sovereign nation. The Islamic Arabs who have always hated the Jewish people, wanted to create a make-believe nation to give the Israelis a difficult time, IMO, and I think history supports that idea too. I do not believe there is any mention of "Palestine" in the Qu'ran.

 

[Mr.Right]

can't get away from the fact it was the land of the jews.

Thank you. It's nice to see someone who understands the data and what it implicates.

As much as they might want, the jewish past cannot be wiped out. Even if like ISIS the monuments and archeological evidence were destroyed, the historical documentation from other lands will still exist. The history and genealogy will still have been recorded. Knowledge of the jews will still live on....even within the quran

Another great point there. Jewish people are mentioned in the Qu'ran, which dates back to what? Over 1000 years ago?

Where are the millennia of artifacts and global documentation of a palestine? What is there before WWI beside rome changing the name of gaza and sinai into P-1, P-2 and P-3? A foreign name that is not part of the arab vocabulary till the 20th C

Obviously, Palestine was just a part of the Ottoman empire and nothing more. It never was a sovereign nation. The Islamic Arabs who have always hated the Jewish people, wanted to create a make-believe nation to give the Israelis a difficult time, IMO, and I think history supports that idea too. I do not believe there is any mention of "Palestine" in the Qu'ran.

I never thought I would ever agree with you, but there it is.