Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Two references and definitions you need to keep in mind:

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It doesn't matter. Palestinians can only be considered militants while actively engaged in armed conflict. As unarmed protesters, they are unarmed protesters. Political affiliation is irrelevant.

(COMMENT)

You will note, closely, that neither reference mentions being "armed." It is also important to remember that prosecution of the acts in violation of Article 43, Hague Regulation, is actually taken under the authority of Article 68 of the Geneva Convention:

View attachment 400891​

All that matters is the damage or injury that is attempted or inflected (the criminal intent). If (as an example) Ahed Tamimi, a Palestinian activist, and former juvenile delinquent, throws a rock at a Police Officer or Soldier performing Article 43 Duties, it is assumed that the intent was to do harm.

(OBSERVATION)

Like I've said before, people like yourself make-up these distinctions and definitions that are often wrong and misleading; a form of spreading false or inaccurate information deliberately intended to deceive readers of the discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

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The problem with Israel is that it does not even pretend to be a legitimate occupying power. "Public order and safety" does not fit into its settler colonial project.

Indeed, the problem with your comment is that you have not even pretended to offer a defendable argument.

You have never identified what sovereign “Pal’istanian” lands that Israel is occupying. Lands occupied by the Arabs-Moslems you identify as Palestinians was controlled by the Turks who, as you may not be aware, released all rights and title to the Mandate.

Indeed, the Arabs-Moslems you as label as “Palestinians” never had sovereign control or ownership of the land area.

 

[Hollie]

In this episode of “Mr. Mufti says”, we read about the obligations of Moslems under sharia.

Endearing messages of Jew hating from Pal Muftis are too numerous to mention. These are pious Moslem leaders who are just following the doctrinal elements of their beliefs. Any reasonable person can listen to their rantings and come to conclusions about their interpretation of Islamic ideology. From the nearly daily occurrences of Islamic terrorism we can derive patterns of behavior. The sheiks, muftis, clerics, mosque leaders who spread their message of hate for Jews and the infidel derive their hate from somewhere. Where do you think that

PA Mufti: Sharia’h obligates every Muslim to wage Jihad against what the PA calls “the ‎thieving Jews” ‎

Nan Jacques Zilberdik and Itamar Marcus | Oct 12, 2020

Referring to previous Islamic religious rulings that “obligate” Muslims to “fight ‎against the thieving Jews,” a host on official PA TV interviewed the PA Grand ‎Mufti on the aspects of Sharia’h law in connection with the UAE and ‎Bahrain’s recent peace agreements with Israel.‎

The PA Mufti stressed that “if an inch of the Muslims’ lands is stolen, Jihad ‎becomes a personal religious commandment for everyone.” The PA defines ‎all of the State of Israel as stolen Islamic land – a waqf – which is an ‎inalienable religious endowment in Islamic law. Therefore, according to the ‎PA Mufti, Shari’ah law prohibits Palestinians from recognizing Israel in any borders and commands that every Muslim has a personal duty to ‎wage war against Israel until the “Muslim” land is freed. He further stated that the UAE and Bahrain are ‎‎“twisting” these religious rulings, noting that this is “forbidden” and that they will ‎have to answer to Allah for this:‎


Mr. Mufti rattles on with more but is reciting the Koranic obligation regarding waqf.

Think Peace Partners

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Two references and definitions you need to keep in mind:

View attachment 400882
View attachment 400883​

It doesn't matter. Palestinians can only be considered militants while actively engaged in armed conflict. As unarmed protesters, they are unarmed protesters. Political affiliation is irrelevant.

(COMMENT)

You will note, closely, that neither reference mentions being "armed." It is also important to remember that prosecution of the acts in violation of Article 43, Hague Regulation, is actually taken under the authority of Article 68 of the Geneva Convention:

View attachment 400891​

All that matters is the damage or injury that is attempted or inflected (the criminal intent). If (as an example) Ahed Tamimi, a Palestinian activist, and former juvenile delinquent, throws a rock at a Police Officer or Soldier performing Article 43 Duties, it is assumed that the intent was to do harm.

(OBSERVATION)

Like I've said before, people like yourself make-up these distinctions and definitions that are often wrong and misleading; a form of spreading false or inaccurate information deliberately intended to deceive readers of the discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

View attachment 400882
The problem with Israel is that it does not even pretend to be a legitimate occupying power. "Public order and safety" does not fit into its settler colonial project.

Indeed, the problem with your comment is that you have not even pretended to offer a defendable argument.

You have never identified what sovereign “Pal’istanian” lands that Israel is occupying. Lands occupied by the Arabs-Moslems you identify as Palestinians was controlled by the Turks who, as you may not be aware, released all rights and title to the Mandate.

Indeed, the Arabs-Moslems you as label as “Palestinians” never had sovereign control or ownership of the land area.

Lands occupied by the Arabs-Moslems you identify as Palestinians was controlled by the Turks who, as you may not be aware, released all rights and title to the Mandate.

The Treaty of Lausanne says different.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Treaty Relinquished it to the Allied Powers.

Lands occupied by the Arabs-Moslems you identify as Palestinians was controlled by the Turks who, as you may not be aware, released all rights and title to the Mandate.

The Treaty of Lausanne says different.

(COMMENT)

Hollie was much closer than you. So much closer that I will not quibble over her choice of words. But you are just chalk full of intentionally misleading statements.

Turkey was the successor state to the Ottoman Empire, which relinquished the rights and title to the Allied Powers. The successor state to Turkey, for all intent and purposes, had not yet been designated. The Mandate formed the caretaker government.

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Turkey hereby renounces all rights and title whatsoever over or respecting the territories situated outside the frontiers laid down in the present Treaty and the islands other than those over which her sovereignty is recognised by the said Treaty, the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned.​

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The provisions of the present Article do not prejudice any special arrangements arising from neighbourly relations which have been or may be concluded between Turkey and any limitrophe countries.​

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The Treaty of Lausanne was the renegotiated terms of the Treaty of Sèvres (1920); which was never ratified by the Turkish Republic. The treaty itself does not award the Aarab inhabitants of the territory to which the Mandate Applied, anything at all (no promises). The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees. And in fact, that obligation was fulfilled when the Arab League took effective control over the West Bank and Gaza Strip. All the Arab Palestinians were, at one time, citizens of the Hashemite Kingdom; well before they came under the effective control of Israel.

All the Arab Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, at one time, were under the effective control of the Egyptian Government; well before they came under the effective control of Israel.

The reason that the Arab Palestinians keep the controversy of the Treaty of Lausanne alive, is because they think there is some unfulfilled promise or obligation in the treaty that was made to the territorial inhabitance.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Two references and definitions you need to keep in mind:

View attachment 400882
View attachment 400883​

It doesn't matter. Palestinians can only be considered militants while actively engaged in armed conflict. As unarmed protesters, they are unarmed protesters. Political affiliation is irrelevant.

(COMMENT)

You will note, closely, that neither reference mentions being "armed." It is also important to remember that prosecution of the acts in violation of Article 43, Hague Regulation, is actually taken under the authority of Article 68 of the Geneva Convention:

View attachment 400891​

All that matters is the damage or injury that is attempted or inflected (the criminal intent). If (as an example) Ahed Tamimi, a Palestinian activist, and former juvenile delinquent, throws a rock at a Police Officer or Soldier performing Article 43 Duties, it is assumed that the intent was to do harm.

(OBSERVATION)

Like I've said before, people like yourself make-up these distinctions and definitions that are often wrong and misleading; a form of spreading false or inaccurate information deliberately intended to deceive readers of the discussion.

Most Respectfully,
R

View attachment 400882
The problem with Israel is that it does not even pretend to be a legitimate occupying power. "Public order and safety" does not fit into its settler colonial project.

Indeed, the problem with your comment is that you have not even pretended to offer a defendable argument.

You have never identified what sovereign “Pal’istanian” lands that Israel is occupying. Lands occupied by the Arabs-Moslems you identify as Palestinians was controlled by the Turks who, as you may not be aware, released all rights and title to the Mandate.

Indeed, the Arabs-Moslems you as label as “Palestinians” never had sovereign control or ownership of the land area.

Lands occupied by the Arabs-Moslems you identify as Palestinians was controlled by the Turks who, as you may not be aware, released all rights and title to the Mandate.

The Treaty of Lausanne says different.

No. It doesn’t.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

 

[Ropey]

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

Virtual citizenship from a virtual state... both that are unstable by definition.

 

[Hollie]

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

Nobody gave nationality and citizenship to the Arabs-Moslems occupying the former Turkish caliphate.

You don't make any sense.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Whether or no it makes any sense to you is → "irrelevant." That is what they did. Your opinion did not matter.

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

(COMMENT)

"Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.

"After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.

SOURCE: A/AC.21/UK/42 25 February 1948

In explaining what the status would be after the termination of the Mandate, the Mandatory explained by comparison, what the status was before the termination. And as you know, in 1922, the Mandatory made it clear that:

For the purposes of this Order and pending the introduction of an Order in Council regulating Palestinian citizenship, the following persons shall be deemed to be Palestinian citizens:--
	(a)Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the date of commencement of this Order.
	(b)All persons of other than Turkish nationality habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the said date, who shall within two calendar months of the said date make application for Palestinian citizenship in such form and before such officer as may be prescribed by the High Commissioner.

SOURCE: WHEREAS the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, 10 August 1922

You have to learn how to tie all the logic together before you can decide who is the screwball.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

Pal-Arab terrorism and child abuse is in part the responsibility of the west as the rewards of the UNRWA welfare fraud funds a part of that terrorism.



When funding terror is more important than rehabilitating child terrorists ‎
Maurice Hirsch, Adv.‎ | Oct 14, 2020

EU funding and the priorities of Palestinian NGOs

When funding terror is more important than rehabilitating child terrorists ‎ | PMW Analysis

EU funding and the priorities of Palestinian NGOs

palwatch.org

While the European Union continues its efforts to support Palestinian society, ‎for at least one Palestinian Non-Governmental Organization (NGO), it would ‎appear that the freedom to funnel EU funds‏ ‏to EU designated terror ‎organizations is more important than rehabilitating Palestinian child terrorists. ‎

As Palestinian Media Watch has conclusively shown, the Palestinian Authority ‎indoctrinates Palestinian children to hate Jews and Israel and to seek Israel's ‎destruction; brainwashes Palestinian children to admire murderers; and ‎weaponizes Palestinian children while promoting their participation in violence. ‎And the brainwashing and indoctrination has proved successful. Thousands of ‎Palestinian children and teens have adopted these views taking an active part ‎in terror, including scores who have attacked Israeli citizens. Some of the ‎brainwashed teens have murdered Israeli civilians.‎

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Whether or no it makes any sense to you is → "irrelevant." That is what they did. Your opinion did not matter.

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

(COMMENT)

​

"Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.​

​

"After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.​

​

SOURCE: A/AC.21/UK/42 25 February 1948​

​

​

In explaining what the status would be after the termination of the Mandate, the Mandatory explained by comparison, what the status was before the termination. And as you know, in 1922, the Mandatory made it clear that:

​

​

For the purposes of this Order and pending the introduction of an Order in Council regulating Palestinian citizenship, the following persons shall be deemed to be Palestinian citizens:--
	(a)Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the date of commencement of this Order.
	(b)All persons of other than Turkish nationality habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the said date, who shall within two calendar months of the said date make application for Palestinian citizenship in such form and before such officer as may be prescribed by the High Commissioner.

SOURCE: WHEREAS the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, 10 August 1922​

​

​

You have to learn how to tie all the logic together before you can decide who is the screwball.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine Order in Council was back when Palestine was still occupied enemy territory.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Whether or no it makes any sense to you is → "irrelevant." That is what they did. Your opinion did not matter.

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

(COMMENT)

​

"Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.​

​

"After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.​

​

SOURCE: A/AC.21/UK/42 25 February 1948​

​

​

In explaining what the status would be after the termination of the Mandate, the Mandatory explained by comparison, what the status was before the termination. And as you know, in 1922, the Mandatory made it clear that:

​

​

For the purposes of this Order and pending the introduction of an Order in Council regulating Palestinian citizenship, the following persons shall be deemed to be Palestinian citizens:--
	(a)Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the date of commencement of this Order.
	(b)All persons of other than Turkish nationality habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the said date, who shall within two calendar months of the said date make application for Palestinian citizenship in such form and before such officer as may be prescribed by the High Commissioner.

SOURCE: WHEREAS the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, 10 August 1922​

​

​

You have to learn how to tie all the logic together before you can decide who is the screwball.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine Order in Council was back when Palestine was still occupied enemy territory.

Buffoonish.

 

[rylah]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Whether or no it makes any sense to you is → "irrelevant." That is what they did. Your opinion did not matter.

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

(COMMENT)

​

"Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.​

​

"After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.​

​

SOURCE: A/AC.21/UK/42 25 February 1948​

​

​

In explaining what the status would be after the termination of the Mandate, the Mandatory explained by comparison, what the status was before the termination. And as you know, in 1922, the Mandatory made it clear that:

​

​

For the purposes of this Order and pending the introduction of an Order in Council regulating Palestinian citizenship, the following persons shall be deemed to be Palestinian citizens:--
	(a)Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the date of commencement of this Order.
	(b)All persons of other than Turkish nationality habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the said date, who shall within two calendar months of the said date make application for Palestinian citizenship in such form and before such officer as may be prescribed by the High Commissioner.

SOURCE: WHEREAS the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, 10 August 1922​

​

​

You have to learn how to tie all the logic together before you can decide who is the screwball.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine Order in Council was back when Palestine was still occupied enemy territory.

That's actually what 'Palestine' means, by definition.

Who needs that?

They want Israel.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Pal-Arab terrorism and child abuse is in part the responsibility of the west as the rewards of the UNRWA welfare fraud funds a part of that terrorism.



When funding terror is more important than rehabilitating child terrorists ‎
Maurice Hirsch, Adv.‎ | Oct 14, 2020

EU funding and the priorities of Palestinian NGOs

When funding terror is more important than rehabilitating child terrorists ‎ | PMW Analysis

EU funding and the priorities of Palestinian NGOs

palwatch.org

While the European Union continues its efforts to support Palestinian society, ‎for at least one Palestinian Non-Governmental Organization (NGO), it would ‎appear that the freedom to funnel EU funds‏ ‏to EU designated terror ‎organizations is more important than rehabilitating Palestinian child terrorists. ‎

As Palestinian Media Watch has conclusively shown, the Palestinian Authority ‎indoctrinates Palestinian children to hate Jews and Israel and to seek Israel's ‎destruction; brainwashes Palestinian children to admire murderers; and ‎weaponizes Palestinian children while promoting their participation in violence. ‎And the brainwashing and indoctrination has proved successful. Thousands of ‎Palestinian children and teens have adopted these views taking an active part ‎in terror, including scores who have attacked Israeli citizens. Some of the ‎brainwashed teens have murdered Israeli civilians.‎

Palestinian Media Watch is an Israeli propaganda organization, i.e. a load of hooey.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Whether or no it makes any sense to you is → "irrelevant." That is what they did. Your opinion did not matter.

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

(COMMENT)

​

"Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.​

​

"After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.​

​

SOURCE: A/AC.21/UK/42 25 February 1948​

​

​

In explaining what the status would be after the termination of the Mandate, the Mandatory explained by comparison, what the status was before the termination. And as you know, in 1922, the Mandatory made it clear that:

​

​

For the purposes of this Order and pending the introduction of an Order in Council regulating Palestinian citizenship, the following persons shall be deemed to be Palestinian citizens:--
	(a)Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the date of commencement of this Order.
	(b)All persons of other than Turkish nationality habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the said date, who shall within two calendar months of the said date make application for Palestinian citizenship in such form and before such officer as may be prescribed by the High Commissioner.

SOURCE: WHEREAS the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, 10 August 1922​

​

​

You have to learn how to tie all the logic together before you can decide who is the screwball.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine Order in Council was back when Palestine was still occupied enemy territory.

Buffoonish.

Palestine was occupied enemy territory from 1917 to 1924.

 

[rylah]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Whether or no it makes any sense to you is → "irrelevant." That is what they did. Your opinion did not matter.

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

(COMMENT)

​

"Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.​

​

"After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.​

​

SOURCE: A/AC.21/UK/42 25 February 1948​

​

​

In explaining what the status would be after the termination of the Mandate, the Mandatory explained by comparison, what the status was before the termination. And as you know, in 1922, the Mandatory made it clear that:

​

​

For the purposes of this Order and pending the introduction of an Order in Council regulating Palestinian citizenship, the following persons shall be deemed to be Palestinian citizens:--
	(a)Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the date of commencement of this Order.
	(b)All persons of other than Turkish nationality habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the said date, who shall within two calendar months of the said date make application for Palestinian citizenship in such form and before such officer as may be prescribed by the High Commissioner.

SOURCE: WHEREAS the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, 10 August 1922​

​

​

You have to learn how to tie all the logic together before you can decide who is the screwball.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine Order in Council was back when Palestine was still occupied enemy territory.

Buffoonish.

Palestine was occupied enemy territory from 1917 to 1924.

And what was it before?

Independent, ever?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Whether or no it makes any sense to you is → "irrelevant." That is what they did. Your opinion did not matter.

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

(COMMENT)

​

"Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.​

​

"After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.​

​

SOURCE: A/AC.21/UK/42 25 February 1948​

​

​

In explaining what the status would be after the termination of the Mandate, the Mandatory explained by comparison, what the status was before the termination. And as you know, in 1922, the Mandatory made it clear that:

​

​

For the purposes of this Order and pending the introduction of an Order in Council regulating Palestinian citizenship, the following persons shall be deemed to be Palestinian citizens:--
	(a)Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the date of commencement of this Order.
	(b)All persons of other than Turkish nationality habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the said date, who shall within two calendar months of the said date make application for Palestinian citizenship in such form and before such officer as may be prescribed by the High Commissioner.

SOURCE: WHEREAS the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, 10 August 1922​

​

​

You have to learn how to tie all the logic together before you can decide who is the screwball.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine Order in Council was back when Palestine was still occupied enemy territory.

The Palestine Order in Council was back when Palestine was still occupied enemy territory.

The 1800s? Earlier?

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Whether or no it makes any sense to you is → "irrelevant." That is what they did. Your opinion did not matter.

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

(COMMENT)

​

"Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.​

​

"After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.​

​

SOURCE: A/AC.21/UK/42 25 February 1948​

​

​

In explaining what the status would be after the termination of the Mandate, the Mandatory explained by comparison, what the status was before the termination. And as you know, in 1922, the Mandatory made it clear that:

​

​

For the purposes of this Order and pending the introduction of an Order in Council regulating Palestinian citizenship, the following persons shall be deemed to be Palestinian citizens:--
	(a)Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the date of commencement of this Order.
	(b)All persons of other than Turkish nationality habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the said date, who shall within two calendar months of the said date make application for Palestinian citizenship in such form and before such officer as may be prescribed by the High Commissioner.

SOURCE: WHEREAS the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, 10 August 1922​

​

​

You have to learn how to tie all the logic together before you can decide who is the screwball.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine Order in Council was back when Palestine was still occupied enemy territory.

Buffoonish.

Palestine was occupied enemy territory from 1917 to 1924.

Buffoonish.

 

[Hollie]

Pal-Arab terrorism and child abuse is in part the responsibility of the west as the rewards of the UNRWA welfare fraud funds a part of that terrorism.



When funding terror is more important than rehabilitating child terrorists ‎
Maurice Hirsch, Adv.‎ | Oct 14, 2020

EU funding and the priorities of Palestinian NGOs

When funding terror is more important than rehabilitating child terrorists ‎ | PMW Analysis

EU funding and the priorities of Palestinian NGOs

palwatch.org

While the European Union continues its efforts to support Palestinian society, ‎for at least one Palestinian Non-Governmental Organization (NGO), it would ‎appear that the freedom to funnel EU funds‏ ‏to EU designated terror ‎organizations is more important than rehabilitating Palestinian child terrorists. ‎

As Palestinian Media Watch has conclusively shown, the Palestinian Authority ‎indoctrinates Palestinian children to hate Jews and Israel and to seek Israel's ‎destruction; brainwashes Palestinian children to admire murderers; and ‎weaponizes Palestinian children while promoting their participation in violence. ‎And the brainwashing and indoctrination has proved successful. Thousands of ‎Palestinian children and teens have adopted these views taking an active part ‎in terror, including scores who have attacked Israeli citizens. Some of the ‎brainwashed teens have murdered Israeli civilians.‎

Palestinian Media Watch is an Israeli propaganda organization, i.e. a load of hooey.

I understand your tender islamo-sensibilities are offended but you offered nothing to refute the article.

Perhaps you can find a YouTube video?

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Whether or no it makes any sense to you is → "irrelevant." That is what they did. Your opinion did not matter.

The treaty does place an obligation upon the Mandatories concerned to avoid the creation of wholesale stateless people and/or refugees.

So they give the Palestinians nationality and citizenship on a place that is not a state?

You don't make any sense.

(COMMENT)

​

"Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.​

​

"After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.​

​

SOURCE: A/AC.21/UK/42 25 February 1948​

​

​

In explaining what the status would be after the termination of the Mandate, the Mandatory explained by comparison, what the status was before the termination. And as you know, in 1922, the Mandatory made it clear that:

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For the purposes of this Order and pending the introduction of an Order in Council regulating Palestinian citizenship, the following persons shall be deemed to be Palestinian citizens:--
	(a)Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the date of commencement of this Order.
	(b)All persons of other than Turkish nationality habitually resident in the territory of Palestine at the said date, who shall within two calendar months of the said date make application for Palestinian citizenship in such form and before such officer as may be prescribed by the High Commissioner.

SOURCE: WHEREAS the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, 10 August 1922​

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You have to learn how to tie all the logic together before you can decide who is the screwball.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine Order in Council was back when Palestine was still occupied enemy territory.

The land area called Palestine was never as you describe. Perhaps you've fallen down and bumped your head again?