Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Phoenall]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

One sided islamonazi propaganda from your usual source

 

[Phoenall]

And, of course, they also have the option of not firing illegal indiscriminate weapons at Israeli civilians in violation of international law.

And Israel had the opportunity to prosecute Hamas for those alleged crimes but turned it down.

Maybe Israel knows something that you don't.

When was that then, as Israel has not been in that position for many years, in fact decades. It was fatah that was in that position and when it came out they would face the charges they dropped their claims.


Maybe fatah knew more than they let on and just told you lies that you believed

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, Shusha, et al,

Strange, very strange indeed. Just when did Israel have "the opportunity to prosecute Hamas for those alleged crimes but turned it down."

And, of course, they also have the option of not firing illegal indiscriminate weapons at Israeli civilians in violation of international law.

And Israel had the opportunity to prosecute Hamas for those alleged crimes but turned it down.

Maybe Israel knows something that you don't.

(QUESTIONS)

Israel is not a party to the ICC.

• What court are we talking about?
• Who offered the Israelis an opportunity to prosecute?
• What did this unknown authority offer to prosecute?
• Who extended the offer and who turned it down on behalf of the Israelis?
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Does the fact that allegations of HAMAS violations of Customary and International Humanitarian Law (IHL) are being investigated by Israeli Criminal Investigators having jurisdiction and the genuine ability to carry out the investigations make a difference?

In 1997, after the HAMAS bombings of the Mahane Yehuda Market, it is alleged that Israeli Operatives poisoned Khaled Mashal in his Amman Office of HAMAS. Through the direct intervention of HM King Abdullah and threatening to sever diplomatic relations with Israel, Israel provided an antidote for the poison. It is alleged that HAMAS coerced the Jordanian Government with violence if Khaled Mashal died. In 1999, HM Government accused HAMAS of illegal activities geared at disrupting the Peace Treaty between Jordan and Israel. As a consequence, King Abdullah banned HAMAS activities in Jordan and began arresting the key HAMAS officials in Jordan; to include Khaled Mashal (who was the person Israel was accused of attempting to neutralize just two years before). This was not the first time that Hostile Arab Palestinians had been involved in doing direct harm to Jordan. In 1970 the PLO Fedayeen of Black September instigated a Jordanian Civil War (the same Black September that kidnaped and murdered of 11 athletes during the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich).

Does it make a difference that the Chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau, Khaled Mashal, maintaining a residence in exile --- Doha, Qatar?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

The problem with this line of crap is that Hamas rocket launchers are not permanent, or heavy, or expensive.

They fire off some rockets and a minute later they are down the road. Israel knows that the perps are gone but they bomb the crap out of all of the civilians in the area anyway.

And most are fixed as they fire grad as well as qassam rockets. These are the ones Israel targets and puts them out of action. It does not matter to the Geneva conventions as they are explicit in their wording, use a building to fire weapons from and that building is targeted as military from that day on. The world has spoken out against these weapons and decreed them to be illegal and every one a war crime

 

[Phoenall]

The problem with this line of crap is that Hamas rocket launchers are not permanent, or heavy, or expensive.

So it would be really, really easy to put them far away from civilians and schools, hospitals, and refugee stations, then, wouldn't it?

That would mean the "brave" sic Palestinian fighters would be out in the open and easily targeted by the IDF. We cant have that as the Palestinians would not have hundreds of casualties that they could claim were civilians

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The Israelis don't bomb these kinds of target types. Your assumption is wrong.

Who are the Pal'istanians?

The problem with this line of crap is that Hamas rocket launchers are not permanent, or heavy, or expensive.

They fire off some rockets and a minute later they are down the road. Israel knows that the perps are gone but they bomb the crap out of all of the civilians in the area anyway.

(COMMENT)

The tactic you describe is nothing new. When I was in Vietnam, this was the typical strategy employed by the communists VC/NVA.

The Allied Powers are very familiar with these types of targets. Typically, they are engaged "prior to launch" by stand-off direct fire systems like an AH-1 Cobra or an AH-64 Apache. These orbit out as far as 5 miles and swoop-in to close for contact at 3.5 miles away. The Israeli Apache can engaged with 70mm GATR-L (some are laser-guided) rockets and AGM-114 Hellfire Missiles. They have excellent Target Acquisition and Designation Systems (TADS).

I think you will find that in some cases (many cases in fact) Israeli C-RAM can detect and calculate incoming while still airborne and electronically enter the target data into a firing system and have counter-fire on the way back within seconds of the HAMAS first round hitting.

However, what is important here is not so much the question of "they bomb the crap out of all of the civilians in the area anyway" --- but that HAMAS is never called to task for having the exact policy you cite:

• ICRC Customary IHL

• 23.Location of Military Objectives outside Densely Populated Areas
• 24.Removal of Civilians and Civilian Objects from the Vicinity of Military Objectives

If, as the picture depicts, there are no civilians in the vicinity, then --- of course --- using the scenario you describe will not endanger civilians. However, if HAMAS locates their launch sites in densely populated area which they failed to remove civilians from, then --- civilian are placed in harm's way by HAMAS.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

One sided islamonazi propaganda from your usual source

Sour grapes. You just don't like Noura kicking Israel's liar in the nuts.

And human shields was not his only lie. He shoveled shit throughout the interview.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Susan Abulhawa

 

[Hollie]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

PA Ministry of Culture and Ministry of Education organize activity honoring murderer of 3 - PMW Bulletins

Palestinian Authority Ministry of Culture and Ministry of Education organize activity at PA school honoring murder of three

Who better to "encourage reading" than a murderer of 3?

At least that's what officials in the Palestinian Authority Ministry of Culture and Ministry of Education seem to think. Adopting the idea of "human chains of readers" named after terrorist Baha Alyan who together with an accomplice murdered 3 Israeli civilians on a bus in Jerusalem last year, the two ministries organized such a chain at a PA school for boys in Qalqiliya.

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

One sided islamonazi propaganda from your usual source

Sour grapes. You just don't like Noura kicking Israel's liar in the nuts.

And human shields was not his only lie. He shoveled shit throughout the interview.

And then the French and Indian journalists produced the pictures to prove that hamas was indeed using civilians as human shields and the whole LIE was exposed. Then it was shown that foreign nationals were used as human shields as well and the UN made the claims of illegal acts, and after the ICC/ICJ did as the palestinians demanded and looked at Israel's breaches of international law they decided that they did not have the power to try Israel but could try Palestine for war crimes and crimes against humanity. This led to fatah withdrawing their complaint as they faced questions they did not want to face

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Palestinians?

Susan Abulhawa

Still just islamonazi propaganda that should be banned until two unbiased sources support the claims.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Saed Bana

 

[Hollie]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Ismail Haniyeh

 

[docmauser1]

Who are the Palestinians? Ismail Haniyeh

A terrorist thug.

 

[Hollie]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Ahed Tamimi

 

[docmauser1]

Who are the Palestinians?

P F Tinmore resorts to youcrap spamming, of course. Palistanians have never had and still have no land and no borders. Forget it.

 

[Hollie]

Who are the Pal'istanians?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?