Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Hollie]

Bahrain conference has a real focus on Shia Iran, greater Arab ties with Israel.

Why is Bahrain Hosting the Mideast Peace Conference?

The road to curbing Iranian ambitions, according to Bahrain, passes through Tel Aviv. Rabbi Marc Schneier, King Hamad’s interfaith adviser, quoted the king as saying in 2016 that “Our only hope for a strong, moderate Arab voice in the Gulf is a strong Israel.” In February of this year, during the Warsaw Conference, Bahrain’s Foreign Minister Khalid Bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa stated that confronting “the Iranian threat” was more important than dealing with the Israel-Palestine issue.



Manama’s willingness to partake in the US-sponsored conference also serves domestic and regional interests that center on countering Iranian ambitions in the Gulf and across the Middle East; and it is this specific geopolitical motive that provides further context to Israeli officials’ invitation to the summit. Recent Bahraini overtures to Israel, which follow unofficial contacts dating back to the mid-90s, include statements of support for Israel’s military actions in Syria against Shia strongholds.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Bahrain conference has a real focus on Shia Iran, greater Arab ties with Israel.

Why is Bahrain Hosting the Mideast Peace Conference?

The road to curbing Iranian ambitions, according to Bahrain, passes through Tel Aviv. Rabbi Marc Schneier, King Hamad’s interfaith adviser, quoted the king as saying in 2016 that “Our only hope for a strong, moderate Arab voice in the Gulf is a strong Israel.” In February of this year, during the Warsaw Conference, Bahrain’s Foreign Minister Khalid Bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa stated that confronting “the Iranian threat” was more important than dealing with the Israel-Palestine issue.



Manama’s willingness to partake in the US-sponsored conference also serves domestic and regional interests that center on countering Iranian ambitions in the Gulf and across the Middle East; and it is this specific geopolitical motive that provides further context to Israeli officials’ invitation to the summit. Recent Bahraini overtures to Israel, which follow unofficial contacts dating back to the mid-90s, include statements of support for Israel’s military actions in Syria against Shia strongholds.

Bahrain’s Foreign Minister Khalid Bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa stated that confronting “the Iranian threat” was more important than dealing with the Israel-Palestine issue.

Indeed, that is why they are faking this threat from Iran.

 

[Hollie]

Bahrain conference has a real focus on Shia Iran, greater Arab ties with Israel.

Why is Bahrain Hosting the Mideast Peace Conference?

The road to curbing Iranian ambitions, according to Bahrain, passes through Tel Aviv. Rabbi Marc Schneier, King Hamad’s interfaith adviser, quoted the king as saying in 2016 that “Our only hope for a strong, moderate Arab voice in the Gulf is a strong Israel.” In February of this year, during the Warsaw Conference, Bahrain’s Foreign Minister Khalid Bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa stated that confronting “the Iranian threat” was more important than dealing with the Israel-Palestine issue.



Manama’s willingness to partake in the US-sponsored conference also serves domestic and regional interests that center on countering Iranian ambitions in the Gulf and across the Middle East; and it is this specific geopolitical motive that provides further context to Israeli officials’ invitation to the summit. Recent Bahraini overtures to Israel, which follow unofficial contacts dating back to the mid-90s, include statements of support for Israel’s military actions in Syria against Shia strongholds.

Bahrain’s Foreign Minister Khalid Bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa stated that confronting “the Iranian threat” was more important than dealing with the Israel-Palestine issue.

Indeed, that is why they are faking this threat from Iran.

Indeed, you’re off chasing another conspiracy theory.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Bahrain conference has a real focus on Shia Iran, greater Arab ties with Israel.

Why is Bahrain Hosting the Mideast Peace Conference?

The road to curbing Iranian ambitions, according to Bahrain, passes through Tel Aviv. Rabbi Marc Schneier, King Hamad’s interfaith adviser, quoted the king as saying in 2016 that “Our only hope for a strong, moderate Arab voice in the Gulf is a strong Israel.” In February of this year, during the Warsaw Conference, Bahrain’s Foreign Minister Khalid Bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa stated that confronting “the Iranian threat” was more important than dealing with the Israel-Palestine issue.



Manama’s willingness to partake in the US-sponsored conference also serves domestic and regional interests that center on countering Iranian ambitions in the Gulf and across the Middle East; and it is this specific geopolitical motive that provides further context to Israeli officials’ invitation to the summit. Recent Bahraini overtures to Israel, which follow unofficial contacts dating back to the mid-90s, include statements of support for Israel’s military actions in Syria against Shia strongholds.

Bahrain’s Foreign Minister Khalid Bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa stated that confronting “the Iranian threat” was more important than dealing with the Israel-Palestine issue.

Indeed, that is why they are faking this threat from Iran.

Indeed, you’re off chasing another conspiracy theory.

The government shovels shit and you people eat it with a spoon.

 

[Hollie]

Bahrain conference has a real focus on Shia Iran, greater Arab ties with Israel.

Why is Bahrain Hosting the Mideast Peace Conference?

The road to curbing Iranian ambitions, according to Bahrain, passes through Tel Aviv. Rabbi Marc Schneier, King Hamad’s interfaith adviser, quoted the king as saying in 2016 that “Our only hope for a strong, moderate Arab voice in the Gulf is a strong Israel.” In February of this year, during the Warsaw Conference, Bahrain’s Foreign Minister Khalid Bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa stated that confronting “the Iranian threat” was more important than dealing with the Israel-Palestine issue.



Manama’s willingness to partake in the US-sponsored conference also serves domestic and regional interests that center on countering Iranian ambitions in the Gulf and across the Middle East; and it is this specific geopolitical motive that provides further context to Israeli officials’ invitation to the summit. Recent Bahraini overtures to Israel, which follow unofficial contacts dating back to the mid-90s, include statements of support for Israel’s military actions in Syria against Shia strongholds.

Bahrain’s Foreign Minister Khalid Bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa stated that confronting “the Iranian threat” was more important than dealing with the Israel-Palestine issue.

Indeed, that is why they are faking this threat from Iran.

Indeed, you’re off chasing another conspiracy theory.

The government shovels shit and you people eat it with a spoon.

Indeed, another of your compelling arguments.

 

[Mindful]

Hamas Leader Admits Group Receiving Iranian Military and Financial Support

Ismail Haniyeh and Yahya Sinwar gesture to supporters during a rally marking the 30th anniversary of Hamas’ founding, in Gaza City Dec. 14, 2017. Photo: Reuters / Mohammed Salem.

The leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip publicly admitted on Thursday that the terrorist group was getting military and financial backing from Iran.

“We have developed our capabilities,” the Israeli news site Makoquoted Yahya Sinwar saying at a Hamas rally in Gaza, “and we have received financial and military support from Iran.”

“We will only continue to improve our capabilities,” he pledged, and admitted, “If Iran didn’t support us in recent years, we wouldn’t have achieved what we achieved.”

Sinwar stated that the Grad rockets fired at Israel during the latest round of fighting in early May were of “Iranian manufacture.”

The terrorist leader also slammed US President Donald Trump’s yet-to-be-unveiled Israeli-Palestinian peace plan, claiming, “Trump wants to sell Jerusalem to the Zionists without paying a price.”

“I call on the leaders of the Arab states — if you want to keep your seats, you have no choice but to choose our option, the option of the liberation of Palestine,” Sinwar added.


Hamas Leader Admits Group Receiving Iranian Military and Financial Support

So? And the US gives military and financial support to Israel.

Do you have a point?

Lots of them.


BTW, the US doesn't 'give' anything to Israel.

 

[Hollie]

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/menasource/why-is-bahrain-hosting-the-mideast-peace-conference

Following a long period of anticipation and repeated delays, US officials announced earlier this month that they will hold an economic workshop in Bahrain in late June as the first step in the administration’s road map for peace between Israel and Palestine. Bahrain’s hosting of the summit is a clear reflection of the trilateral partnership between Israel, the United States, and the Gulf that has been promoted by the Trump administration in the region. The event’s location and regional participation—in spite of the announced Palestinian boycott—moreover demonstrate that contemporary domestic and international geopolitical concerns outweigh a cursory commitment to the Palestinian cause.



"Bahrain’s hosting of the summit is a clear reflection of the trilateral partnership between Israel, the United States, and the Gulf that has been promoted by the Trump administration in the region."





Yep. The Arabs-Moslems masquerading as Pal'istanians have aligned with the Shia heretics. From the Sunni Moslem perspective, that is an unforgivable sin.

 

[Hollie]

I always find it ironic that anyone would be surprised by "human rights abuses" with an islamic terrorist franchise running a corrupt mini-caliphate.




Hamas must end brutal crackdown against protesters in Gaza

 

[Hollie]

There's a certain "everything's right with the world" justice in islamic terrorists elected to office being the greatest oppressors of islamic terrorists.

Gaza: Hamas must end brutal crackdown against protesters and rights defenders.

Human Rights NGO Reports on Hamas’ Abuses in Gaza Strip

 

[member]

I always find it ironic that anyone would be surprised by "human rights abuses" with an islamic terrorist franchise running a corrupt mini-caliphate.




Hamas must end brutal crackdown against protesters in Gaza

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....leaders since 2004…….terrorists sure know how to “hold” onto their official government posts.”



According to the internet, they were supposed to have another election in 2014 ?






Wha-happened?



pinkmore....don't you think palestinians would be better off without hamass as their ...government?........

how do you... oust this mentality from the "areas" so maybe one day there can be.....peace ??








This article was originally published in TRT Arabic on 27 February 2019
(sorry, if it’s a repeat)….



Will the Palestinian elections ever be held?



Will the Palestinian elections ever be held?


It doesn’t seem that the elections for the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC) will be held in May or any time soon thereafter, as called for by the Constitutional Court of the Palestinian Authority (PA) in Ramallah. This is the case even though they were approved and welcomed by Fatah, the leadership of the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) and the PA. It looks as if Fatah will be pragmatic in dealing with that part of the court’s decision that it favours, which is to dissolve the PLC. As far as elections within the next six months are concerned, though, it seems that Fatah isn’t all that keen on pushing the issue, despite the objections of the other Palestinian factions to the Constitutional Court itself, its powers and its decisions.




The fact that the call for elections was made in the context of the conflict between Fatah and the PA on the one hand, and Fatah and Hamas on the other, in an environment that exacerbates Palestine’s domestic issues, suggests that the people will not be going to the polls any time soon. The call for them to be held was, in effect, not to solve problems, but simply to provide a smokescreen for the conflict of wills and attempts to delegitimise Hamas and limit its capabilities. Essentially, the Constitutional Court decision was meant to add insult to injury rather than offer a way out of the crisis.




How can Fatah talk about an “election celebration” while ignoring its 2011 Reconciliation Agreement with the other factions and imposing a new pathway that will shatter the domestic scenario? If it is serious about holding elections, it must first establish a suitably healthy environment in which they can be held, rather than increase tension and destroy the kind of confidence-building measures that are essential for a transparent, democratic election process. Fatah has continued with its crisis-instigating rhetoric against Hamas rather than finding common ground, possibly deliberately, because if Hamas boycotts the elections it would lose a great deal of its credibility but Fatah could win. Furthermore, the electoral participation of the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip is basically dependent on Hamas’s approval and cooperation.




In January, Fatah official Hussein Al-Shaikh said on TV that there will only be a unity government with Hamas before an end to the schism “over our dead bodies”. Fatah, he added, would not allow the rule of the “obscurants”. Last month, he threatened to take measures that would affect Hamas and its future. Hamas, meanwhile, escalated its criticism of Fatah and the PA; its deputies voted to end Abbas’s mandate and launched a campaign to delegitimise him and his position.




It is also obvious that Fatah needs national leverage to hold elections, at least at the major faction level. That way, it will eventually be able to besiege Hamas, forcing the Islamic Resistance Movement either to acquiesce to the conditions set down by Fatah for the political process or leave the political game altogether. However, what the Fatah leadership has done has increased Palestinian opposition, whereby all of the major factions have rejected the Constitutional Court’s decision to dissolve the PLC, and have refused to take the election issue seriously. In fact, they blame the Fatah and PA leadership for escalating the crisis. Furthermore, they have refused to participate in the suggested government, which includes PLO factions, to manage the PA and the elections. Consequently, Fatah is more isolated in the Palestinian arena, while the policies of the political factions and Hamas have converged further. This means that Fatah and the PA leadership have failed to find the minimum required to legitimise the elections or to isolate Hamas.




It appears that neither the Fatah leadership nor the PA were really interested in including the other main Palestinian factions which are part of the PLO (Hamas is not a member), as they did not make any interesting offer to overcome the political crisis, the PA’s dilemmas or the Oslo entitlements. Instead, there has been a continuation of the arrogant political speeches, even when talking about a government that includes PLO factions, which maintained their opposition to what is happening.




The crisis with the Palestinian factions was why the inter-factional talks in Moscow last month failed even to issue a final statement. This led Fatah to launch a media campaign against Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and decide to boycott the latter, taking Palestinian politics another step backwards.


Moreover, Fatah and the PA planned the elections so that they would only be held only for the PLC, with the intention solely to end the parliamentary majority of Hamas and marginalise the movement; the plan is within the context of political rivalry rather than it being a means to reform the Palestinian political system. The 2011 Reconciliation Agreement, however, called for a commitment to hold simultaneous elections for the PLC, the Palestinian National Council (PNC) and the Palestinian Presidency. All of the factions agreed to this. Hence, with Fatah trying to implement only what suits it, this should be perceived as a “repositioning” of its leadership, while the political system remains in a miserable state, something to be rejected by both the factions and the general public.




Indeed, opinion polls do not encourage Fatah and the PA to hold genuine elections in which Hamas also participates. According to the latest poll conducted by the Palestinian Centre for Policy and Survey Research (an independent centre in Ramallah), the popularity of both Fatah and Hamas are almost the same, although Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh would most likely win a presidential race, with a predicted 7 per cent lead over Mahmoud Abbas. The poll’s main findings included the following: 64 per cent want Abbas to resign; 66 per cent are dissatisfied with the performance of his government; 80 per cent believe that the PA institutions are corrupt; 77 per cent demand the removal of the PA sanctions imposed on the Gaza Strip; 61 per cent oppose Abbas’s insistence that Hamas must hand over control over the Gaza Strip fully to the reconciliation government, including the ministries, the security sector, and arms; and twice as many people blame Abbas and the PA for the worsening conditions in Gaza as those who blame Hamas.




Unless Fatah and the PA can guarantee their own victory in the Palestinian elections, therefore, there is no incentive for them to hold them. Logically, if Fatah doesn’t mind dealing with a Hamas-led PLC, why does it continue to disrupt the institution and its current Hamas majority, which it has done for the past 12 years? And why did it dissolve it instead of implementing the term of the reconciliation agreement governing the activation of the Council?




Israel, of course, has the capability to disrupt the Palestinian elections, especially in the occupied West Bank and Jerusalem. It has an extreme right-wing agenda to continue building illegal settlements and impose its Judaisation programme, and it has no intention whatsoever of allowing the Palestinian political house to be put in order. Continuing its longstanding policy of thwarting Hamas, pursuing its members and destroying its infrastructure, Israel holds what is in effect a veto over any Hamas victory and renewal of its electoral legitimacy. It even seeks to subdue Fatah and other non-resistance factions and ensure that the PA stays a functional entity that lacks any possibility of becoming an independent sovereign state. What’s more, there is no pressure on Israel to allow the Palestinians to build national institutions that express their will, which is another indication that it will be difficult to hold Palestinian elections in the near future.




Hamas calls for government to prepare for elections


Similarly, Washington’s policies align with Israel’s. The US wants the Palestinians to toe the line with the “deal of the century”, and give Jerusalem to the Israelis, waive the refugees’ right of return and establish a non-sovereign state on fragmented parts of the 1967-occupied territories. Hence, any arrangement that would re-energise the Palestinian national project, or would include armed resistance factions and Islamic movements in the PLO and the PA, are always going to be rejected and disrupted by the US.




Finally, the Arab milieu is weak and in tatters, and many states have policies which are aligned with the US vision, including normalisation of relations with Israel. Arab states are either hostile or opposed to resistance to the Israeli occupation, and “political Islam” is off the regimes’ agenda. This all constitutes another obstacle in the way of putting the Palestinian political house in order in such a way that would include all factions and constituencies according to their real political weight. Arab “legitimacy” continues to be bestowed on the moribund peace process, but it does not allow the resistance movements to reorganise the PLO or the PA on a new axis that leaves the Oslo Accords behind.




Based on the above, I think it is fair to say that we can rule out the holding of Palestinian elections at least for the rest of this year. Nevertheless, we can be sure that there is a genuine willingness out there to deal with the elections as an effective tool to put Palestinian politics on solid foundations, and not use them as a cover to exclude and marginalise any or all of the factions, nor as a tool to prolong the worn-out Palestinian political system.


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[rylah]

Hamas Leader Admits Group Receiving Iranian Military and Financial Support

Ismail Haniyeh and Yahya Sinwar gesture to supporters during a rally marking the 30th anniversary of Hamas’ founding, in Gaza City Dec. 14, 2017. Photo: Reuters / Mohammed Salem.

The leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip publicly admitted on Thursday that the terrorist group was getting military and financial backing from Iran.

“We have developed our capabilities,” the Israeli news site Makoquoted Yahya Sinwar saying at a Hamas rally in Gaza, “and we have received financial and military support from Iran.”

“We will only continue to improve our capabilities,” he pledged, and admitted, “If Iran didn’t support us in recent years, we wouldn’t have achieved what we achieved.”

Sinwar stated that the Grad rockets fired at Israel during the latest round of fighting in early May were of “Iranian manufacture.”

The terrorist leader also slammed US President Donald Trump’s yet-to-be-unveiled Israeli-Palestinian peace plan, claiming, “Trump wants to sell Jerusalem to the Zionists without paying a price.”

“I call on the leaders of the Arab states — if you want to keep your seats, you have no choice but to choose our option, the option of the liberation of Palestine,” Sinwar added.


Hamas Leader Admits Group Receiving Iranian Military and Financial Support

So? And the US gives military and financial support to Israel.

Do you have a point?

That's how fast You go from complete denial to what-about-ism.
How is aligning with everyone's enemy in the region a smart move?

Only if You're suicidal...which correctly describes the Jihadis in Gaza.

 

[rylah]

How many Gazans will Iran be willing to spare?
Of course not the "smart" ones with the jets...

 

[Hollie]

Money for weapons really does fall off the Shia Iranian gee-had tree.

With Hamas unable to control the competing gee-had franchise in Gaza, any acts of war directed at Israel by Islamic Jihad will have a direct impact (the explosive kind), on Hamas.



Palestinian Islamic Jihad: We can launch more than 1,000 rockets at Israel a day for months
i24NEWS

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Latest Revision may 31, 2019, 6:45 AM
Roberto Schmidt (AFP)

Islamic Jihad warned on Thursday that it has the capability to launch more than 1,000 rockets a day into Israel for months".

 

[Hollie]

The Emir of Sinwar’istan is ordering people in Bahrain to declare a general strike.

The Emir has spoken!

Hamas leader threatens Tel Aviv, urges Bahranis to strike over US summit
Yahya Sinwar says the terror groups will ‘pulverize’ the center of Israel in the next round of cross-border fighting; orders residents of the Gulf state, due to host conference where parts of Trump’s peace plan will be unveiled, to declare general strike




Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar (Photo: AP)



The Emir is looking rather Hitler’esque in his tirades.

 

[Hollie]

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Every deal offered so far was for the Palestinians to surrender and give up their rights. That is what Israel calls a great offer.

Have you never heard of compromise? The deals will keep on getting less and less sweeter. BDS will not do a thing, and time is not on your side, like I said before. But you can always keep on posting here, which will not help your cause one bit.

The Palestinians have given up a lot. Israel has given up nothing.

Yes, I think it's true that at this point, Israel isn't willing to give up much. After they gave up Southern Lebanon, Gaza and parts of the West Bank, and got suicide bombings and rockets in return, Israelis became hardened and elected Bibi. Gaza had beautiful greenhouses and synagogues which were destroyed, and 9000 Jews were uprooted from their homes. Gaza could've become the Singapore of the Middle East. Under Rabin, Peres, Barak and Olmert, Israel was willing to give up its Jewish heartland--Hebron, Bethlehem, Jericho, Bethel, and Shechem, all of which are located in Judea and Samaria. But now we have passed that point. The Palestinians have only themselves to blame.

Israel "gave up" what was not theirs.

How nice.

And yet, all these cities in the West Bank that have Hebrew names which are thousands of years old don't belong to Hebrew-speaking Israel! How nice...

Hebron means Friend. Bethlehem means House of Bread. Jericho means Moon. Bethel means House of G-d. Shechem means Shoulder. (Shechem is the only city whose name was changed by the Romans to Neapolus. The Arabs, who can't pronounce the letter P, corrupted the name to Nablus. Incidentally, the so-called Palestinians can't even pronounce the name of their own country Palestine!)

Shechem also means Portion.

 

[Hollie]

“Some Gazans starting to blame Hamas..”

Some Gazans can keep quiet and sacrifice themselves for the gee-had.

 

[Hollie]

Islamic Death Cult, the next generation.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The UN is doing something shocking to the Palestinian Arab refugees

 

[Hollie]

Is UNRWA is scam?

Is Islamism the Religion of Peace