Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ Sixties Fan, et al,

This is a completely different perspective thenI've ever seen. Especially: ⇒

The prime reason for this situation is the very reason the PA was founded. In 1993, the Israeli government tried to find someone who would accept responsibility for eliminating the terror network created by the Hamas and Islamic Jihad movements in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity by being granted the authority to rule the area and administer the lives of the Arabs living there. This was the "deal" concocted by the Israelis, and the "contractor" who accepted the challenge was the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) headed by arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat. The Israeli government actually believed that Arafat was serious about eliminating terror and establishing an autonomous administrative system for running those territories.
SOURCE: Dr. Mordechai Kedar, 03/11/18 | A rude awakening for the Palestinian dream |

A rude awakening for the Palestinian dream

(COMMENT)

This is something I thought would have come at no cost: "someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity"

Most Respectfully,
R

It was a one way street. The Palestinians had to eliminate their so called terror but Israel got to keep theirs.

It might have worked if Israel reciprocated.

When did Arabs eliminate their Jihad?
When did Arabs cease to promise an establishment of a Caliphate "from the river to the sea"?

Date?
You'll be waffling as usual.

When did Israel ever stop its violence?

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ Sixties Fan, et al,

This is a completely different perspective thenI've ever seen. Especially: ⇒

The prime reason for this situation is the very reason the PA was founded. In 1993, the Israeli government tried to find someone who would accept responsibility for eliminating the terror network created by the Hamas and Islamic Jihad movements in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity by being granted the authority to rule the area and administer the lives of the Arabs living there. This was the "deal" concocted by the Israelis, and the "contractor" who accepted the challenge was the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) headed by arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat. The Israeli government actually believed that Arafat was serious about eliminating terror and establishing an autonomous administrative system for running those territories.
SOURCE: Dr. Mordechai Kedar, 03/11/18 | A rude awakening for the Palestinian dream |

A rude awakening for the Palestinian dream

(COMMENT)

This is something I thought would have come at no cost: "someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity"

Most Respectfully,
R

It was a one way street. The Palestinians had to eliminate their so called terror but Israel got to keep theirs.

It might have worked if Israel reciprocated.

When did Arabs eliminate their Jihad?
When did Arabs cease to promise an establishment of a Caliphate "from the river to the sea"?

Date?
You'll be waffling as usual.

When did Israel ever stop its violence?

Israel has had to defend itself from the first day it declared its Independence.

Defending one's territory and population is not violence.

You know very well that from 1920 on, the violent ones have been the Arabs.

Rest, you deserve it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

• These benefits for Hamas are exactly why the proposed truce is dangerous and sends the wrong message to Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists. A truce now says that if you engage in violent, extortionistic acts, you get what you want.
  
  
• This victory for Hamas will, of course, only increase the terrorists' appetite and motivation to continue their attempts to kill as many Jews as possible. They will see any truce as a retreat on the part of Israel in the face of violence and terrorism.
  
  
• Hamas will now have more time to prepare for the next war against Israel. The proposed truce will give Hamas breathing space to smuggle more weapons into the Gaza Strip, dig new tunnels and recruit thousands of Palestinians to its ranks.
  
  
• A real truce between Israel and the Gaza Strip will be achieved only after the jihadi terrorists are removed from power, and not rewarded for violence and threats.

(full article online)

The Middle East "Truce": Why Hamas Cannot Be Trusted

WOW, truckload of sour grapes.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ Sixties Fan, et al,

This is a completely different perspective thenI've ever seen. Especially: ⇒

The prime reason for this situation is the very reason the PA was founded. In 1993, the Israeli government tried to find someone who would accept responsibility for eliminating the terror network created by the Hamas and Islamic Jihad movements in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity by being granted the authority to rule the area and administer the lives of the Arabs living there. This was the "deal" concocted by the Israelis, and the "contractor" who accepted the challenge was the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) headed by arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat. The Israeli government actually believed that Arafat was serious about eliminating terror and establishing an autonomous administrative system for running those territories.
SOURCE: Dr. Mordechai Kedar, 03/11/18 | A rude awakening for the Palestinian dream |

A rude awakening for the Palestinian dream

(COMMENT)

This is something I thought would have come at no cost: "someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity"

Most Respectfully,
R

It was a one way street. The Palestinians had to eliminate their so called terror but Israel got to keep theirs.

It might have worked if Israel reciprocated.

When did Arabs eliminate their Jihad?
When did Arabs cease to promise an establishment of a Caliphate "from the river to the sea"?

Date?
You'll be waffling as usual.

When did Israel ever stop its violence?

Israel has had to defend itself from the first day it declared its Independence.

Defending one's territory and population is not violence.

You know very well that from 1920 on, the violent ones have been the Arabs.

Rest, you deserve it.

Israel always has to "defend itself" from the people it is attacking.

 

[rylah]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ Sixties Fan, et al,

This is a completely different perspective thenI've ever seen. Especially: ⇒

The prime reason for this situation is the very reason the PA was founded. In 1993, the Israeli government tried to find someone who would accept responsibility for eliminating the terror network created by the Hamas and Islamic Jihad movements in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity by being granted the authority to rule the area and administer the lives of the Arabs living there. This was the "deal" concocted by the Israelis, and the "contractor" who accepted the challenge was the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) headed by arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat. The Israeli government actually believed that Arafat was serious about eliminating terror and establishing an autonomous administrative system for running those territories.
SOURCE: Dr. Mordechai Kedar, 03/11/18 | A rude awakening for the Palestinian dream |

A rude awakening for the Palestinian dream

(COMMENT)

This is something I thought would have come at no cost: "someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity"

Most Respectfully,
R

It was a one way street. The Palestinians had to eliminate their so called terror but Israel got to keep theirs.

It might have worked if Israel reciprocated.

When did Arabs eliminate their Jihad?
When did Arabs cease to promise an establishment of a Caliphate "from the river to the sea"?

Date?
You'll be waffling as usual.

When did Israel ever stop its violence?

2000 years ago.
You were given all that time to learn to tolerate Jews, yet Christians and Arabs kept on murdering and blaming all of their ills on that tiny minority, while having the whole of the world under Your control.

You've missed the opportunity, time is running up.
Jews live, while their haters come and go only to perish with history.

 

[Sixties Fan]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ Sixties Fan, et al,

This is a completely different perspective thenI've ever seen. Especially: ⇒

​

(COMMENT)

This is something I thought would have come at no cost: "someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity"

Most Respectfully,
R

It was a one way street. The Palestinians had to eliminate their so called terror but Israel got to keep theirs.

It might have worked if Israel reciprocated.

When did Arabs eliminate their Jihad?
When did Arabs cease to promise an establishment of a Caliphate "from the river to the sea"?

Date?
You'll be waffling as usual.

When did Israel ever stop its violence?

Israel has had to defend itself from the first day it declared its Independence.

Defending one's territory and population is not violence.

You know very well that from 1920 on, the violent ones have been the Arabs.

Rest, you deserve it.

Israel always has to "defend itself" from the people it is attacking.

The CHILDREN OF ISRAEL have had to defend themselves from ALL of the invaders to their land.

And now, the invaders are the Arabs. Before, it was the Turks, before that, it was the Crusaders, before that it was the Muslim Arabs......so on and so forth.

It is no different from all other people who have been invaded, subjugated and have achieved, or look forward to achieving freedom from those who invaded and oppressed them for no matter how long a time.

No, Tinmore, you and your Arab friends are NOT the victims in all of this.

Arabia is calling.......Allah awaits all Arabs to return to their fold.

Salam.

 

[rylah]

It was a one way street. The Palestinians had to eliminate their so called terror but Israel got to keep theirs.

It might have worked if Israel reciprocated.

When did Arabs eliminate their Jihad?
When did Arabs cease to promise an establishment of a Caliphate "from the river to the sea"?

Date?
You'll be waffling as usual.

When did Israel ever stop its violence?

Israel has had to defend itself from the first day it declared its Independence.

Defending one's territory and population is not violence.

You know very well that from 1920 on, the violent ones have been the Arabs.

Rest, you deserve it.

Israel always has to "defend itself" from the people it is attacking.

The CHILDREN OF ISRAEL have had to defend themselves from ALL of the invaders to their land.

And now, the invaders are the Arabs. Before, it was the Turks, before that, it was the Crusaders, before that it was the Muslim Arabs......so on and so forth.

It is no different from all other people who have been invaded, subjugated and have achieved, or look forward to achieving freedom from those who invaded and oppressed them for no matter how long a time.

No, Tinmore, you and your Arab friends are NOT the victims in all of this.

Arabia is calling.......Allah awaits all Arabs to return to their fold.

Salam.

He can only tolerate suicide bombers.
Don't scare him off, after all Jihadis are soft creatures.

 

[USAF 2023]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ Sixties Fan, et al,

This is a completely different perspective thenI've ever seen. Especially: ⇒

​

(COMMENT)

This is something I thought would have come at no cost: "someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity"

Most Respectfully,
R

It was a one way street. The Palestinians had to eliminate their so called terror but Israel got to keep theirs.

It might have worked if Israel reciprocated.

When did Arabs eliminate their Jihad?
When did Arabs cease to promise an establishment of a Caliphate "from the river to the sea"?

Date?
You'll be waffling as usual.

When did Israel ever stop its violence?

Israel has had to defend itself from the first day it declared its Independence.

Defending one's territory and population is not violence.

You know very well that from 1920 on, the violent ones have been the Arabs.

Rest, you deserve it.

Israel always has to "defend itself" from the people it is attacking.

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ Sixties Fan, et al,

This is a completely different perspective thenI've ever seen. Especially: ⇒

The prime reason for this situation is the very reason the PA was founded. In 1993, the Israeli government tried to find someone who would accept responsibility for eliminating the terror network created by the Hamas and Islamic Jihad movements in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity by being granted the authority to rule the area and administer the lives of the Arabs living there. This was the "deal" concocted by the Israelis, and the "contractor" who accepted the challenge was the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) headed by arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat. The Israeli government actually believed that Arafat was serious about eliminating terror and establishing an autonomous administrative system for running those territories.
SOURCE: Dr. Mordechai Kedar, 03/11/18 | A rude awakening for the Palestinian dream |

A rude awakening for the Palestinian dream

(COMMENT)

This is something I thought would have come at no cost: "someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity"

Most Respectfully,
R

It was a one way street. The Palestinians had to eliminate their so called terror but Israel got to keep theirs.

It might have worked if Israel reciprocated.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ Sixties Fan, et al,

Well, it really doesn't matter what the Arab Palestinian point-of-view (ie Tinmore and the rest) hold to in this conflict. No matter how they portray themselves, no matter the vantage point they retain, they are at the end of the day, the aggressor.

Israel has had to defend itself from the first day it declared its Independence.
Defending one's territory and population is not violence.
You know very well that from 1920 on, the violent ones have been the Arabs.

(COMMENT)

The 1948 War of Independence was an engagement between the Israelis and the Arab League (primarily Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon but with the assistance of Yemen, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Pakistan). However, it was NOT a conflict in which the Arab Palestinians were a party. When the Armistice Arrangements were signed, the Parties to the conflict made agreements. The Palestinians were not a party to the conflict as a nation state. They were being represented by the Arab League. The Primary nations participated in the ceasefire arrangements. The Arab Palestinians never agreed to peace.

At the conclusion of the 1967 Six-Day War, similar ceasefire arrangements were made, and the Armistice Demarcation Lines (The Green Line), not by international law, became over time the de facto borders. And then came the Peace Treaties came along and solidified some of the border issues. The Treaty which encapsulates the West Bank was between Israel and Jordan. The Treaty which encapsulates the Gaza Strip was between Israel and Egypt.

THE POINT here is that the Arab Palestinians did not engage as an entity in any effort for to quell hostilities or to secure the peace. They still operated pretty much → as a people that hold peace hostage (armed resistance is the only solution).

Just my thought.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ Sixties Fan, et al,

This is a completely different perspective thenI've ever seen. Especially: ⇒

​

(COMMENT)

This is something I thought would have come at no cost: "someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity"

Most Respectfully,
R

It was a one way street. The Palestinians had to eliminate their so called terror but Israel got to keep theirs.

It might have worked if Israel reciprocated.

When did Arabs eliminate their Jihad?
When did Arabs cease to promise an establishment of a Caliphate "from the river to the sea"?

Date?
You'll be waffling as usual.

When did Israel ever stop its violence?

Israel has had to defend itself from the first day it declared its Independence.

Defending one's territory and population is not violence.

You know very well that from 1920 on, the violent ones have been the Arabs.

Rest, you deserve it.

Israel always has to "defend itself" from the people it is attacking.

More of your silly conspiracy theories.

 

[Hollie]

Not that anyone should be surprised.


PA lies, presents Holocaust victims as Arabs - PMW Bulletins


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PA lies, presents Holocaust victims as Arabs
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PA lies, presents Holocaust victims as Arabs

• PA TV showed a photo with rows of dead bodies claiming they were Arabs killed by Israelis in the Arab village of Al-Dawayima in 1948.
  In fact, it was a photo of Holocaust victims in a concentration camp.

• PA TV already lied about this photo of Holocaust victims earlier this year. Then they told their viewers they were Arabs killed by Israelis at Deir Yassin in 1948.

By Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik

Purporting to be showing images of Arab victims from the village of Al-Dawayima which the Israeli army captured during Israel’s War of Independence in 1948 (see note below), official PA TV deceptively showed a photo from a Nazi concentration camp showing victims from the Holocaust.



Just really creepy.

 

[USAF 2023]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ Sixties Fan, et al,

This is a completely different perspective thenI've ever seen. Especially: ⇒

​

(COMMENT)

This is something I thought would have come at no cost: "someone willing to be rewarded for anti-terrorist activity"

Most Respectfully,
R

It was a one way street. The Palestinians had to eliminate their so called terror but Israel got to keep theirs.

It might have worked if Israel reciprocated.

When did Arabs eliminate their Jihad?
When did Arabs cease to promise an establishment of a Caliphate "from the river to the sea"?

Date?
You'll be waffling as usual.

When did Israel ever stop its violence?

Israel has had to defend itself from the first day it declared its Independence.

Defending one's territory and population is not violence.

You know very well that from 1920 on, the violent ones have been the Arabs.

Rest, you deserve it.

Israel always has to "defend itself" from the people it is attacking.

Israel “attacked” Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Egypt ??? They initiated the Palestinian Intifadas? That is actually funny !

 

[Hollie]

It was a one way street. The Palestinians had to eliminate their so called terror but Israel got to keep theirs.

It might have worked if Israel reciprocated.

When did Arabs eliminate their Jihad?
When did Arabs cease to promise an establishment of a Caliphate "from the river to the sea"?

Date?
You'll be waffling as usual.

When did Israel ever stop its violence?

Israel has had to defend itself from the first day it declared its Independence.

Defending one's territory and population is not violence.

You know very well that from 1920 on, the violent ones have been the Arabs.

Rest, you deserve it.

Israel always has to "defend itself" from the people it is attacking.

Israel “attacked” Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Egypt ??? They initiated the Palestinian Intifadas? That is actually funny !

Don’t confuse the wannabe with facts. He stumbles upon them with a face plant, but gets up, brushes himself off and proceeds on as if nothing has happened.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Palestinian Response to Pittsburgh: a Contrast in Societies

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Endlessly Infantile One would think that Arabs invented the word palaestinae (Palestine) when most did not even start coming to the area until the 7th century CE ]

The Palestine viper, or daboia palaestinae, was selected based on an online vote.

Found across the Levant, from the northern Negev and western Jordan in the south to northern Lebanon and central Syria in the north, the snake is common throughout most of Israel, and in Hebrew is referred to as the ‘common viper’, or ‘common Land of Israel viper’.

The Palestinian Authority protested the move, calling it an act of ‘theft’ which ignored what they called the viper’s Palestinian heritage.

(full article online)

Palestinian Authority: Israel stole our snake

 

[Sixties Fan]

Border Guard Police Foil Female Arab Terrorist at Kfar Adumim

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Palestinian Authority regularly demonizes Jews, Israelis, and those who they call "settlers" and accuse them of believing in precisely the hate ideologies the PA itself espouses to its own people.

While accusing Israelis of participating in a religious war, it is Mahmoud Abbas' advisor who has called Israel "Satan's project" and presented the war with Israel as a religious war to destroy Israel and Jews. The PA Mufti, who is appointed by Abbas, has said extermination of Jews is a religious obligationand Islamic destiny.

In Israel, the isolated cases of Israeli terror against Palestinians are punished and condemned. It is the Palestinian Authority under direct instructions of Mahmoud Abbas that rewards murderers of Israelis with high salaries and calls terrorist murderers "stars in the sky of the Palestinian people."

In this op-ed in the official PA daily, the writer projects the PA's own hate ideologies onto what he refers to as Israeli "settlers." They are demonized as inhuman murderers who kill Palestinians for their own pleasure and at the orders of the Israeli government.

Under the headline "The settlers are sacrificing the Palestinians' blood as a sacrifice to Netanyahu," regular columnist for the official PA daily, Muwaffaq Matar, who is also a member of the Fatah Revolutionary Council and hosts a TV program on Fatah-run Awdah TV, portrayed Israelis living beyond the Green Line as "mass murderers obsessed with bloodshed" who are "directed" and controlled by the Israeli army and government:

(full article online)

"Settlers" kill Palestinians for pleasure - hate speech in official PA daily - PMW Bulletins

 

[Sixties Fan]

"We were able to prevent 480 major ‎terrorist attacks, stop 590 lone-wolf terrorists and ‎arrest 219 Hamas cells. This indicates that there is ‎a large, clandestine terrorist infrastructure ‎there."

Hamas leaders in Gaza and Turkey are sparing no ‎effort to mastermind terrorist attacks in Judea and ‎Samaria, and similar efforts are being made from ‎‎Lebanon by the Hezbollah terrorist group, Argaman said.

(full article online)

Security agency chief warns of deceptive calm: We foiled 480 major terror attacks this year - Israel Hayom

 

[Sixties Fan]

The raid on the offices of the PA ministry, which also includes the headquarters of the PA “Governorate of Jerusalem,” came in the context of Israel’s efforts to enforce a law that bans the PA from operating inside the country.

Israel says that the Palestinians had been acting in violation of the Law for the Implementation of the Agreement on the Gaza Strip and Jericho Area – Restriction on Activity – 1994, which prevents the PA from carrying out political, governmental or similar activity within the area of the State of Israel, including in east Jerusalem.

(full article online)

Israel steps up effort to block PA activities in Jerusalem

 

[Sixties Fan]

[Why can't they find the right photos? It would help their cause, not Israel's. ]

Only one problem.

The photo is of Gaza and it is from 2013.




The sewage comes from Gaza, not Israel.

But when one needs a photo to back up the lies of Israel drowning Palestinians in sewage, one needs to be creative as to the sources of the photos.

(full article online)

Pallywood in Middle East Monitor ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News