[ "All Lands of Palestine" means ALL OF ISRAEL ]
Ismail Haniyeh says ‘blood of martyrs brings us closer to victory over Zionist enemy,’ vows ongoing fight until ‘siege on Jerusalem, Al-Aqsa and all lands of Palestine is lifted’
(full article online)
Hamas leader: We won’t halt Gaza marches for ‘diesel fuel and dollars’
Coyote
On one of these threads, you claimed that the hate each side has for the other is the same. i disagree. And this is why.
There is all the difference in the world between, "We are going to keep killing you (and ourselves and our children) because you are enemies and you have no rights to, well, anything." AND "Please, would you just stop trying to kill us? And acknowledge our history? And if you can't we are forced to defend ourselves."
Now, I'll admit, that defense sometimes looks ugly, and sometimes it IS ugly. But Israel is not trying to use the blood of her children to take Gaza.
Hamas isn’t all Palestinians or even most however....
And why can’t israeli’s Also acknowledge the Palestinian’s history.
What an utterly nonsense analogy. Hamas is enough Arabs-Moslems to cause significant damage and pose a genuine threat. I suppose the Israelis then are to dismiss the motivations that compel the
tiny minority of violent extremists who have hijacked Islam™ and who want to push them into the sea by machinegun fire.
Individuals may act one way, and groups of them act another. This statistic doesn't take into consideration what the larger group
approves of. Not all people have to actually commit a particular act to
approve of it.
This sort of argumentation is merely an attempt to divest oneself of any responsibility from the consequences of the action of the ideology. Nonsense. Just because a "
tiny minority of violent extremists who have hijacked Islam™ actually commit mass murder and other atrocities doesn't mean the refusal of the Moslem world to reign in the mass murderers in their midst is in anyway mitigated. The people who are committing calculated mass murder the world over are Moslem. They believed mohammed (swish) was a prophet and they based their laws on the koran. That makes them moslem even if you would prefer those heinous monstrosities of human ignorance are not. But they are. Just accept that islam, like anyother political ideology –
is subject to interpretation and take responsibility that islam has spawned a lot of evil. Yes, islam. From the koran. The same one that Moslems on this board read.
I think it’s important to explicitly and consciously "take sides". I take a side opposite to a belligerent politico-religious ideology whose adherents are perpetually aggrieved members of humanity who see every exercise of personal or religious freedom as an insult to them. September 11, 2001, carved into the American mind a particular image of Islamist militancy: the moslem terrorist mass murder. Like the noisy, publicized, professional whiners and haters that we see who find any excuse to riot and cause mayhem, that image has obscured the many smaller, but in aggregate more dangerous, threats that Western societies face from Islamism. Moslems are cowed by their pious/fundamentalist brethren both theologically and physically. They will not rise against those among them who, in the simplest reading of Islamist scriptures, are the ones practicing authentic Islam. They wouldn't do so even if the balance of weaponry and willingness to fight were the reverse of what it is today.
