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Check out the 1949 UN Armistice agreements.OK, those are Palestine's international borders.Passage and link granting land.Only in your fantasy world as international treaty says the land is Jewish. Unless you have an international treaty that says differently ?
Delineating the final geographical area of Palestine designated for the Jewish National Home on September 16, 1922, as described by the Mandatory:
PALESTINE
INTRODUCTORY.
POSITION, ETC.
Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between Latitude 30º N. and 33º N., Longitude 34º 30’ E. and 35º 30’ E.
On the North it is bounded by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and Lebanon, on the East by Syria and Trans-Jordan, on the South-west by the Egyptian province of Sinai, on the South-east by the Gulf of Aqaba and on the West by the Mediterranean. The frontier with Syria was laid down by the Anglo-French Convention of the 23rd December, 1920, and its delimitation was ratified in 1923. Briefly stated, the boundaries are as follows: -
North. – From Ras en Naqura on the Mediterranean eastwards to a point west of Qadas, thence in a northerly direction to Metulla, thence east to a point west of Banias.
East. – From Banias in a southerly direction east of Lake Hula to Jisr Banat Ya’pub, thence along a line east of the Jordan and the Lake of Tiberias and on to El Hamme station on the Samakh-Deraa railway line, thence along the centre of the river Yarmuq to its confluence with the Jordan, thence along the centres of the Jordan, the Dead Sea and the Wadi Araba to a point on the Gulf of Aqaba two miles west of the town of Aqaba, thence along the shore of the Gulf of Aqaba to Ras Jaba.
South. – From Ras Jaba in a generally north-westerly direction to the junction of the Neki-Aqaba and Gaza-Aqaba Roads, thence to a point west-north-west of Ain Maghara and thence to a point on the Mediterranean coast north-west of Rafa.
West. – The Mediterranean Sea.
Where is the land transfer to the Jews.
No mention of International Borders as you claim. No mention of any "country of Pal'istan" as you misrepresent it to be.
Where did you say this magical, invented "country of Pal'istan" was?
The Mandate document called Palestine a country ten times.
I offered. You didn't look.Check out the 1949 UN Armistice agreements.OK, those are Palestine's international borders.Delineating the final geographical area of Palestine designated for the Jewish National Home on September 16, 1922, as described by the Mandatory:
PALESTINE
INTRODUCTORY.
POSITION, ETC.
Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between Latitude 30º N. and 33º N., Longitude 34º 30’ E. and 35º 30’ E.
On the North it is bounded by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and Lebanon, on the East by Syria and Trans-Jordan, on the South-west by the Egyptian province of Sinai, on the South-east by the Gulf of Aqaba and on the West by the Mediterranean. The frontier with Syria was laid down by the Anglo-French Convention of the 23rd December, 1920, and its delimitation was ratified in 1923. Briefly stated, the boundaries are as follows: -
North. – From Ras en Naqura on the Mediterranean eastwards to a point west of Qadas, thence in a northerly direction to Metulla, thence east to a point west of Banias.
East. – From Banias in a southerly direction east of Lake Hula to Jisr Banat Ya’pub, thence along a line east of the Jordan and the Lake of Tiberias and on to El Hamme station on the Samakh-Deraa railway line, thence along the centre of the river Yarmuq to its confluence with the Jordan, thence along the centres of the Jordan, the Dead Sea and the Wadi Araba to a point on the Gulf of Aqaba two miles west of the town of Aqaba, thence along the shore of the Gulf of Aqaba to Ras Jaba.
South. – From Ras Jaba in a generally north-westerly direction to the junction of the Neki-Aqaba and Gaza-Aqaba Roads, thence to a point west-north-west of Ain Maghara and thence to a point on the Mediterranean coast north-west of Rafa.
West. – The Mediterranean Sea.
Where is the land transfer to the Jews.
No mention of International Borders as you claim. No mention of any "country of Pal'istan" as you misrepresent it to be.
Where did you say this magical, invented "country of Pal'istan" was?
The Mandate document called Palestine a country ten times.
Nice dodge™
So, getting back to your false claim. No mention of International Borders as you claim. No mention of any "country of Pal'istan" as you misrepresent it to be.
Where did you say this magical, invented "country of Pal'istan" was?
Ignorant by choice. Good plan.
They don't need to show anybody any ability to self determination.Recognition by other states is not a requirement.The initial declaration of independence or the replays.There is no legal requirement for them to do so.
Read their declaration when they declared independence, they are legally bound by their own words when they promised to do so.
YOU LOSE AGAIN
BTW, where did they say that?
The only one accepted by the world of course, and you read the declaration to see how they lied all the way
You wouldn't point out those lies, would you?
Of course not.
But acceptance is, and you should look at the difference between the two words. As you say no one accepts Israel as being sovereign over the O.T.
So when did the UN accept that the arab muslims showed a small ability to self determination and accepted them as observers ?
They don't need to show anybody any ability to self determination.Recognition by other states is not a requirement.The initial declaration of independence or the replays.Read their declaration when they declared independence, they are legally bound by their own words when they promised to do so.
YOU LOSE AGAIN
BTW, where did they say that?
The only one accepted by the world of course, and you read the declaration to see how they lied all the way
You wouldn't point out those lies, would you?
Of course not.
But acceptance is, and you should look at the difference between the two words. As you say no one accepts Israel as being sovereign over the O.T.
So when did the UN accept that the arab muslims showed a small ability to self determination and accepted them as observers ?
You could say the same thing about all of the new states in the region.Check out the 1949 UN Armistice agreements.OK, those are Palestine's international borders.Passage and link granting land.
Delineating the final geographical area of Palestine designated for the Jewish National Home on September 16, 1922, as described by the Mandatory:
PALESTINE
INTRODUCTORY.
POSITION, ETC.
Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between Latitude 30º N. and 33º N., Longitude 34º 30’ E. and 35º 30’ E.
On the North it is bounded by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and Lebanon, on the East by Syria and Trans-Jordan, on the South-west by the Egyptian province of Sinai, on the South-east by the Gulf of Aqaba and on the West by the Mediterranean. The frontier with Syria was laid down by the Anglo-French Convention of the 23rd December, 1920, and its delimitation was ratified in 1923. Briefly stated, the boundaries are as follows: -
North. – From Ras en Naqura on the Mediterranean eastwards to a point west of Qadas, thence in a northerly direction to Metulla, thence east to a point west of Banias.
East. – From Banias in a southerly direction east of Lake Hula to Jisr Banat Ya’pub, thence along a line east of the Jordan and the Lake of Tiberias and on to El Hamme station on the Samakh-Deraa railway line, thence along the centre of the river Yarmuq to its confluence with the Jordan, thence along the centres of the Jordan, the Dead Sea and the Wadi Araba to a point on the Gulf of Aqaba two miles west of the town of Aqaba, thence along the shore of the Gulf of Aqaba to Ras Jaba.
South. – From Ras Jaba in a generally north-westerly direction to the junction of the Neki-Aqaba and Gaza-Aqaba Roads, thence to a point west-north-west of Ain Maghara and thence to a point on the Mediterranean coast north-west of Rafa.
West. – The Mediterranean Sea.
Where is the land transfer to the Jews.
No mention of International Borders as you claim. No mention of any "country of Pal'istan" as you misrepresent it to be.
Where did you say this magical, invented "country of Pal'istan" was?
The Mandate document called Palestine a country ten times.
BULLSHIT
It cleary stated that for the purpose of the mandate it would be called palestine and not the mandate of palestine for ease. You have been told this and been shown the official documents that spell this out endless numbers of times.
WHY DO YOU IGNORE REALITY SO MUCH
The Mandate was not a place. It was an administration.I offered. You didn't look.Check out the 1949 UN Armistice agreements.OK, those are Palestine's international borders.
Where is the land transfer to the Jews.
No mention of International Borders as you claim. No mention of any "country of Pal'istan" as you misrepresent it to be.
Where did you say this magical, invented "country of Pal'istan" was?
The Mandate document called Palestine a country ten times.
Nice dodge™
So, getting back to your false claim. No mention of International Borders as you claim. No mention of any "country of Pal'istan" as you misrepresent it to be.
Where did you say this magical, invented "country of Pal'istan" was?
Ignorant by choice. Good plan.
We looked but could not see any nation of palestine, just the mandate of palestine to be called palestine for ease of use
Good question. What is the answer?Where did they saythe arab muslims could go that did not want to be ruled by the Jews ?
The IDF goes someplace to attack people then whine about people throwing rocks at them.
The Palestinians do not attack children.
It was just an example of the LEO assholes thinking they are above the law. They are not.
OK, those are Palestine's international borders.
Where is the land transfer to the Jews.
(COMMENT)OK, those are Palestine's international borders.
Where is the land transfer to the Jews.
Jews were "Palestinians". Why would land need to be transferred to people who already hold the rights to sovereignty?
There is no need to "transfer" territory to the native population. Their right to that territory is inherent. If foreigners want any land it must be transferred to them. This requires a treaty or other agreement to transfer that land. In that process specific land defined by borders is transferred.One might ask the question, where is the (imaginary) "transfer" of territory to which the Palestinians lay claim.
There is no need to "transfer" territory to the native population. Their right to that territory is inherent. If foreigners want any land it must be transferred to them. This requires a treaty or other agreement to transfer that land. In that process specific land defined by borders is transferred.One might ask the question, where is the (imaginary) "transfer" of territory to which the Palestinians lay claim.
Therefor Israel would have specific borders not just non border armistice lines.
Israel claims borders, in non UN agreements, on land that the UN calls Palestine.Israel does have specific borders with Egypt and Jordan.
(COMMENT)Israel claims borders, in non UN agreements, on land that the UN calls Palestine.Israel does have specific borders with Egypt and Jordan.
Interesting legal concept.
You are ducking my post.P F Tinmore, et al,
Well, I think that you are --- again twisting the fact.
(COMMENT)Israel claims borders, in non UN agreements, on land that the UN calls Palestine.Israel does have specific borders with Egypt and Jordan.
Interesting legal concept.
Relative to the West Bank, and Gaza Strip --- these are the facts.
• TREATY OF PEACE BETWEEN THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND THE HASHEMITE KINGDOM OF JORDAN
Volume 2042, 1-35325 UN Treaty Collection.
• TREATY OF PEACE 1 BETWEEN THE ARAB REPUBLIC OF EGYPT AND THE STATE OF ISRAEL
No. 17813 United Nations — Treaty Series •
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "non-UN Agreement." Peace Treaties are between parties to the conflict. They are then registered with the UN Treaty Collection.
The UN calls Israel, (wait for it) "Israel." UN General Assembly Resolution 273 (III).
Palestine was defined by a couple different directives - check this out:
- 2. Decides to admit Israel to membership in the United Nations.
• Palestine Order in Council:
The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine.• UN Resolution A/RES/43/177 Question of Palestine:
Acknowledges the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988;
Affirms the need to enable the Palestinian people to exercise their sovereignty over their territory occupied since 1967;
Most Respectfully,
R
(COMMENT)You are ducking my post.P F Tinmore, et al,
Well, I think that you are --- again twisting the fact.
(COMMENT)Israel claims borders, in non UN agreements, on land that the UN calls Palestine.Israel does have specific borders with Egypt and Jordan.
Interesting legal concept.
Relative to the West Bank, and Gaza Strip --- these are the facts.
• TREATY OF PEACE BETWEEN THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND THE HASHEMITE KINGDOM OF JORDAN
Volume 2042, 1-35325 UN Treaty Collection.
• TREATY OF PEACE 1 BETWEEN THE ARAB REPUBLIC OF EGYPT AND THE STATE OF ISRAEL
No. 17813 United Nations — Treaty Series •
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "non-UN Agreement." Peace Treaties are between parties to the conflict. They are then registered with the UN Treaty Collection.
The UN calls Israel, (wait for it) "Israel." UN General Assembly Resolution 273 (III).
Palestine was defined by a couple different directives - check this out:
- 2. Decides to admit Israel to membership in the United Nations.
• Palestine Order in Council:
The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine.• UN Resolution A/RES/43/177 Question of Palestine:
Acknowledges the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988;
Affirms the need to enable the Palestinian people to exercise their sovereignty over their territory occupied since 1967;
Most Respectfully,
R
You post a link without reading it or at least not conveying what it said in reference to my post.P F Tinmore, et al,
(COMMENT)You are ducking my post.P F Tinmore, et al,
Well, I think that you are --- again twisting the fact.
(COMMENT)Israel claims borders, in non UN agreements, on land that the UN calls Palestine.Israel does have specific borders with Egypt and Jordan.
Interesting legal concept.
Relative to the West Bank, and Gaza Strip --- these are the facts.
• TREATY OF PEACE BETWEEN THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND THE HASHEMITE KINGDOM OF JORDAN
Volume 2042, 1-35325 UN Treaty Collection.
• TREATY OF PEACE 1 BETWEEN THE ARAB REPUBLIC OF EGYPT AND THE STATE OF ISRAEL
No. 17813 United Nations — Treaty Series •
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "non-UN Agreement." Peace Treaties are between parties to the conflict. They are then registered with the UN Treaty Collection.
The UN calls Israel, (wait for it) "Israel." UN General Assembly Resolution 273 (III).
Palestine was defined by a couple different directives - check this out:
- 2. Decides to admit Israel to membership in the United Nations.
• Palestine Order in Council:
The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine.• UN Resolution A/RES/43/177 Question of Palestine:
Acknowledges the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988;
Affirms the need to enable the Palestinian people to exercise their sovereignty over their territory occupied since 1967;
Most Respectfully,
R
I didn't "duck" anything.
Most Respectfully,
R
Yes. Exactly. And part of holding sovereignty is, of course, controlling immigration.There is no need to "transfer" territory to the native population. Their right to that territory is inherent.
If foreigners want any land it must be transferred to them. This requires a treaty or other agreement to transfer that land. In that process specific land defined by borders is transferred.
