Who Are The Palestinians " III "

[BackAgain]

Couldn’t this “history of” fairy tale be serialized?

 

[Hollie]

Honoring the sociopaths and misfits they breed.

 

[Hollie]

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.

Your usual cut and paste one-liner. Pointless and time-wasting.

 

[Hollie]

The Cowardly Lions didn't last long.

 

[Hollie]

The Islamic terrorist pallys have a continuous supply of disposable yutes.










4:12 AM · Nov 9, 2022 from Israel·Twitter for iPhon

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Islam gone mad because they lost some conquered territory. Death over life ]

There is “nothing more precious” than when your son dies “a Martyr for the homeland.”


This is what the PA expects parents to feel when their children are killed during their terror attacks, and this is the message the PA expects parents to publicly declare and pass on to others.

“The mother of Martyr Salameh, like all the mothers of the Palestinian Martyrs, looks at her son for the last time. She holds on and considers her son a Martyr for the homeland, which there is nothing more precious than it.”

[Official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Nov. 6, 2022]​

The PA presents Palestinian parents, and especially mothers, as possessing a unique power based on an Islamic religious belief that enables them to smile when their terrorist children die, and rejoice over their “wedding” to the 72 Virgins in Paradise rather than marrying their betrothed in real life. The official PA daily said this is “an ability that is inherited by the Martyrs’ mothers,” who are different than other mothers:

“The Martyr’s mother pushed her way between his friends in the hospital halls, and with a smile that did not leave her face called out: ‘Our groom is handsome, do not say he’s dark-skinned, where is the groom?’ This is an ability that is inherited by the Martyrs’ mothers. They deviate from the rules of farewell and demonstrate such endurance while bidding farewell to their sons.”

This particular character trait in Palestinian women has been highlighted by Fatah Central Committee member Abbas Zaki as Palestinian Media Watch has exposed. Zaki praised Palestinian women for not grieving when losing their loved ones as do other women.

Fatah Central Committee member Abbas Zaki: “Palestinian women are not like any other women in the world. All [the other] women worry about their loved ones, their children, and their husbands much more, and when they die even a natural death, [the women] tear at their cheeks and go crazy, [and call] “Allahu Akbar”. The Palestinian women, due to all the suffering and massacres that they have seen, view their children as insignificant compared to the homeland. [They] have seen great people die for the cause, and all they do is make sounds of joy for the Martyrs, be proud of Martyrdom, and sing for the grooms.”

[Official Facebook page of Fatah Central Committee member Abbas Zaki, April 29, 2021]​

The above text claiming “nothing is more precious” than when one’s son dies a “Martyr” was part of a report in the official PA paper entitled “the supreme wedding,” which told the story of Farouq Salameh - a 28-year-old Palestinian terrorist and senior commander of the Islamic Jihad terror organization who was involved in the murder of Israeli Police officer Noam Raz in Jenin on May 13, 2022. When Israeli security forces attempted to arrest Salameh, he shot at them and was killed by return fire.

Salameh was engaged and just two days away from his wedding but instead guests attended his Martyr funeral, which in Palestinian Islam is considered his “wedding” to the 72 Virgins in Paradise. The article in the official PA daily referred to it as:

“The most supreme, most festive, and loftiest wedding of a groom who was not present at his wedding celebration.”

(full article online)

PA: Marrying 72 Virgins in Paradise is better than marrying in life and having a real family | PMW Analysis

72 Virgins in Paradise

palwatch.org

 

[Sixties Fan]

This morning, terrorist killed 3 Jews and injured others in Ariel.

The Palestinian Amad news site and others identify the terrorist as Muhammad Murad Sami Souf, 19. It says that he is a member of Fatah and his father was a leading Fatah figure who had been released from Israeli prison.

Fatah has not yet taken responsibility, but it has praised the attack.

This heroic and courageous operation is a natural response to the orgy of the occupation soldiers and settlers and their daily crimes against the Palestinian people, their land, and their Islamic and Christian sanctities.This heroic and qualitative attack confirms the continuation and escalation of the resistance act in the occupied West Bank, and that our Palestinian people are fully aware that resistance is the only way to protect the land and sanctities, and that it is capable of raising the cost of the occupation and defeating it.

Significantly, only yesterday Fatah issued a statement that incited Palestinians to violence, saying "independence and achieving sovereignty over the land of the Palestinian state is a legitimate right of our Palestinian people, and it is a goal that we will continue to struggle with determination and determination to achieve, regardless of the sacrifices."

Fatah has taken credit for numerous other attacks this year, issuing many "martyr posters."

There has been no difference in rhetoric or actions between Fatah and other terror groups like Islamic Jihad, Hamas and the PFLP during the current wave of attacks.

Yet the West still pretends that Fatah is somehow more "moderate" than the other groups. Only the Fatah-linked Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades are designated as a terror group by the State Department, but not Fatah itself.

This is because the world wants to maintain the fiction that the PLO - which is dominated by Fatah - is a peace partner, and it would be awkward to say that Abbas is a man of peace but that the political party he heads is a terror group.

The US, EU and PLO play into the fiction that these terror attacks have nothing to do with Fatah, making a distinction between rogue Fatah elements and official Fatah positions. The Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center describes this ambiguity:

To understand the connection between Fatah and the Al Aqsa MArtyrs Brigades [AAMB,] a distinction has to be made between “official” Fatah, which is always conflicted because of the need display “resistance” activities while violating the ground rules agreed on with Israel, and Fatah operatives or security force operatives who ignore the official commitment. That duality is reflected in the inconsistent, diverse statements about the AAMB made by members of the Fatah movement. Some occasionally express reservations, and others publicly support, identify with and praise the armed “resistance,” while local Fatah branches support and openly aid it (al-Jazeera, August 9, 2022).

The duality of the PA’s approach is also reflected in the way it responds to terrorist attacks for which the AAMB claim responsibility. Publicly, some of the senior PA figures condemn the attacks, primarily those carried out inside Israel territory, but often praise those who carry them out and represent them as role models and heroes who sacrifice their lives for the sake of the Palestinian people. The PA also issues mourning notices for them and senior Palestinian figures attend their funerals and go to the mourning tents to offer condolences. In the case of Ibrahim al-Nabulsi, AAMB leader in Nablus, Fatah even named its summer camps after him.

There's another reason why the West is reluctant to call out Fatah's clear support for these terror attacks. If every single Palestinian faction supports terror so explicitly, then Israel really cannot be blamed for concentrating on defending itself and its citizens - but the West wants to maintain the fiction that Israel is equally responsible for the violence, that it is a "cycle of violence" and not Israel responding to terror.

In the end, it is all politics and optics, and the West doesn't want to admit that the two state solution they want so desperately cannot work as long as one of the states is committed to destroy the other, one Jew at a time.

Fatah praises terror attack (and may be behind it.) What will it take for the EU and US to call Fatah a terror group?

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

elderofziyon.blogspot.com

 

[Hollie]

I suppose with 17 Children and 65 Grandchildren, these lovely folks are fine with throwing a bunch of them onto the gee-had bonfire.

Hamas TV Airs Events Honoring Mothers Of Palestinian Terrorists, 'Martyrs' – Mother Of Slain Terrorists Says: I Will Happily Sacrifice My 17 Children, 65 Grandchildren For The Sake Of Palestine, Al-Aqsa Mosque

On November 3, 2022, Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas – Gaza) aired footage from simultaneous events honoring the mothers of Palestinia...

www.memri.org

Hamas TV Airs Events Honoring Mothers Of Palestinian Terrorists, 'Martyrs' – Mother Of Slain Terrorists Says: I Will Happily Sacrifice My 17 Children, 65 Grandchildren For The Sake Of Palestine, Al-Aqsa Mosque

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore said:
Nationality and citizenship expire?

Link?

When did the Order come to an end?

Military Proclamation Number 17 of 1949, Section 2, vested the King of Jordan with all the powers that were enjoyed by the King of England, his ministers and the High Commissioner of Palestine by the Palestine Order-in-Council, 1922. Section 5 of this law confirmed that all laws, regulations and orders that were applicable in Palestine until the termination of the Mandate would remain in force until repealed or amended.[38]

 

[Hollie]

Knife and Vehicle-Ramming Attacks are "popular", at least according to the islamic terrorists.

Fatah Official Sirhan Yousef: Resistance in the Form of Knife and Vehicle-Ramming Attacks, Popular Intifada – the Only Way to Liberate Palestine; Agreements with Israel Were a Step in the Struggle for the Liberation of Palestine in Its Entirety

Fatah’s political relations chief Sirhan Yousef said in a November 6, 2022 show on Al-Alam TV (Iran) that Fatah’s milita...

www.memri.org

Fatah Official Sirhan Yousef: Resistance in the Form of Knife and Vehicle-Ramming Attacks, Popular Intifada – the Only Way to Liberate Palestine; Agreements with Israel Were a Step in the Struggle for the Liberation of Palestine in Its Entirety

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore said:
Nationality and citizenship expire?

Link?


Military Proclamation Number 17 of 1949, Section 2, vested the King of Jordan with all the powers that were enjoyed by the King of England, his ministers and the High Commissioner of Palestine by the Palestine Order-in-Council, 1922. Section 5 of this law confirmed that all laws, regulations and orders that were applicable in Palestine until the termination of the Mandate would remain in force until repealed or amended.[38]

"Quoting" your own "quotes"?

P F Tinmore said:
"I'm going to hold my breath and stomp my feet until someone agrees that the state of pallyland has been invented... at various times... clip clip, clip clop,, I'll trot out my Zebra to prove it".

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

P F Tinmore said:
Nationality and citizenship expire?

Link?


Military Proclamation Number 17 of 1949, Section 2, vested the King of Jordan with all the powers that were enjoyed by the King of England, his ministers and the High Commissioner of Palestine by the Palestine Order-in-Council, 1922. Section 5 of this law confirmed that all laws, regulations and orders that were applicable in Palestine until the termination of the Mandate would remain in force until repealed or amended.[38]

Nationality and citizenship expire?

The mandate expired?

Section 5 of this law confirmed that all laws, regulations and orders that were applicable in Palestine until the termination of the Mandate would remain in force until repealed or amended.

The King announced the Palestinians were citizens of Palestine? Link?

 

[Sixties Fan]

As a general rule, most societies are horrified when members of its security forces engage in simple crimes, and are shaken to the core when those same security forces participate in violent acts of terror. The Palestinian Authority is an exception to the rule. In the PA, the participation of members of the PA Security Forces in acts of terror against Israel, Israelis, and anyone else who happens to be in their path, is the source of tremendous pride.

While Palestinian Media Watch has regularly exposed the involvement of members of the PA Security Forces in terror, it is sometimes difficult to quantify just how many of the PA security force personnel have taken an active part in terror.

A statement released by the PA-funded Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Commission of Prisoners’ Affairs clarified that no fewer than 355 members of the PA Security Forces have actively participated in terror and been arrested by Israel:

“In an official statement… the [PLO] Commission of Prisoners’ [Affairs] revealed that the number of prisoners from the Palestinian Security Forces has reached 355 prisoners who are scattered in all the Israeli occupation’s detention facilities and prisons.”

[Facebook page of the PLO Commission of Prisoners’ Affairs, Oct. 12, 2022]​

The statement shamelessly continued to declare that the reason there are so many members of the PA Security Forces being held in prison, is because they “led … the Al-Aqsa Intifada”. The Al-Aqsa Intifada is the name the PA gives to the 2000 – 2005 PA-initiated terror wave during which Palestinian terrorists carried out thousands of terror attacks, including dozens of suicide bombings, which resulted in the murder of over 1,100 Israelis and the injury of tens of thousands more.

“The commission explained that a large percentage of prisoners being detained from among the Security Forces members were sentenced to long terms and life sentences based on the principle of deterrence, and this is because they led those who rose up to defend our people and resist the occupation’s crimes, especially at the start of the Al-Aqsa Intifada.”

[Facebook page of the PLO Commission of Prisoners’ Affairs, Oct. 12, 2022]​

The Palestinian pride in the participation of the PA Security Forces in terror is not new. Last year, senior PLO and Fatah official, Jibril Rajoub, who sees himself as a potential replacement for Mahmoud Abbas, used the participation of the PA Security Forces in terror as a means to repel claims from Hamas, that it is Hamas that is leading the “resistance to the occupation”:


(full article online)

PLO and Fatah celebrate the terrorists who are part of the PA Security Forces | PMW Analysis

PLO and Fatah celebrate the terrorist attacks

palwatch.org

 

[Hollie]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC: Military Proclamation
※→ Toddsterpatriot, P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, I think something is WRONG here, with our friend "Tinmore's" Posting #1329.

Nationality and citizenship expire?

The mandate expired?

Section 5 of this law confirmed that all laws, regulations and orders that were applicable in Palestine until the termination of the Mandate would remain in force until repealed or amended.

The King announced the Palestinians were citizens of Palestine? Link?

(IMPORTANT CITATIONS)

◈ S/1302/Rev.1 3 April 1949 ARMISTICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN JORDAN AND ISRAEL 3 April 1949, at Rhodes​

​

◈ On April 11, 1950, elections were held for a new Jordanian parliament in which the Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented. Thirteen days later, Parliament unanimously approved a motion to unite the two banks of the Jordan River, constitutionally expanding the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in order to safeguard what was left of the Arab territory of Palestine from further Zionist expansion.​

(COMMENT)

Jordanian Armed Forces (JAF) Military Order #17 NOV 48 was issued domestically as a pre-Implementation of the Armistice Agreement. It had nothing to do with the work being done on the International scene.

"The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan now included nearly one and a half million people, more than half a million of whom were refugees evicted from Jewish-occupied Palestine."

This is an example of where an "occupation" transitioned to "annexation."

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC: Military Proclamation
※→ Toddsterpatriot, P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, I think something is WRONG here, with our friend "Tinmore's" Posting #1329.


(IMPORTANT CITATIONS)

◈ S/1302/Rev.1 3 April 1949 ARMISTICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN JORDAN AND ISRAEL 3 April 1949, at Rhodes​

​

◈ On April 11, 1950, elections were held for a new Jordanian parliament in which the Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented. Thirteen days later, Parliament unanimously approved a motion to unite the two banks of the Jordan River, constitutionally expanding the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in order to safeguard what was left of the Arab territory of Palestine from further Zionist expansion.​

(COMMENT)

Jordanian Armed Forces (JAF) Military Order #17 NOV 48 was issued domestically as a pre-Implementation of the Armistice Agreement. It had nothing to do with the work being done on the International scene.

"The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan now included nearly one and a half million people, more than half a million of whom were refugees evicted from Jewish-occupied Palestine."

This is an example of where an "occupation" transitioned to "annexation."

Most Respectfully,
R

You post constantly that Jordan annexed the West Bank. Only Britain and Pakistan recognized that attempt. The world considered the West Bank to be occupied Palestinian territory.

 

[Sixties Fan]

This is the least important news you will read today, but it says a lot.

November 15 is considered by Palestinians to be their "independence day" because Yasir Arafat declared it as such in 1988, in a move that was accepted by practically nobody.

The official Wafa news agency recorded the congratulatory telegrams that Mahmoud Abbas received from national leaders on the occasion. One press release describes those sent from Mauritania, Pakistan, Senegal and Tajikistan.

The contents of these telegrams are all identical.

In their telegrams, the presidents and officials affirmed their continued keenness to develop and strengthen fraternal relations with the State of Palestine, in a way that serves common interests and contributes to the progress and stability of the region .

They stressed their continued support for the Palestinian people and their just cause to restore their legitimate national rights and enable them to establish their independent state with Jerusalem as its capital.

The wording in the second paragraph is identical to countless official Palestinian statements. It is not language that national leaders would come up with on their own when sending communications like this.

Similarly, the message from the president of Tunisia:

It gives me pleasure, on the occasion of the commemoration of the 34th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, to address you on behalf of myself and on behalf of the Tunisian people, with warmest congratulations and sincere fraternal wishes for good health and wellness, and for the Palestinian people to recover their legitimate rights that will not be forfeited by statute of limitations and to establish their independent state with Jerusalem as its capital.

What appears to have happened is that Palestinian diplomats asked their host countries to write congratulatory notes to Mahmoud Abbas, and in some cases told them what to say! (A few other telegrams, from Sweden, Malta, and Nicaragua were more generic. The ones from Turkey and Jordan mentioned a two state solution with "East Jerusalem" as the capital of Palestine. )

This way the PA can issue a press release making Abbas sound like an elder statesman with widespread support. Most of his press releases are about sending and receiving similar telegrams on the occasion of various state holidays, so he feels like he is part of the community of world leaders.

It is sort of pathetic.

But this trivial episode reveals the deep level of manipulation that the Palestinians put into all of their diplomatic efforts, alternatively threatening or cajoling or just wearing down other nations with their demands, which sometimes pays off.

Apparently, Palestinians wrote their own "congratulatory telegrams" from other countries on their "independence day"

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

elderofziyon.blogspot.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

Diversity. Equity. Inclusion.

These are sacred concepts for progressives.

They also happen to be concepts roundly ignored by the Palestinian leadership.

And the aforementioned progressives don't really care.

Here is a photo from a PLO Executive Committee meeting presided over by Palestinian dictator Mahmoud Abbas on Tuesday evening.



Not one woman. Not one man whose skin tone would make them a victim of discrimination anywhere.

Once upon a time, Hanan Ashrawi was a member of the committee. She resigned in 2020 - and was replaced by yet another white man.

EC members are not elected. They are effectively handpicked by Mahmoud Abbas to support his decisions, as he controls every single branch of Palestinian government.

None of this bothers the people who claim to care so much about diversity and inclusion.

The PLO is run by 16 white men. "Progressives" silent.

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

elderofziyon.blogspot.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

when our state had the opportunity to invest in public health, they went with mass incarceration.


Keeping criminals away from the rest of us is healthy.