Who Are The Palestinians " III "

Good thing are prisons to warehouse islamic terrorists and keep them away from the population.






355 members of the P.A. security forces actively participated in terror and are in Israel prisons, according to the PLO.
From the official Fatah Facebook page, Sept. 14, 2022.
 
The only reason islamic terrorists in Gaza would have to fear Israeli airstrikes would be in connection with Israeli retaliation and suppression of further Islamic terrorist attacks.





The Palestinian factions in the Gaza Strip have reinforced security measures around figures in the Strip linked to terrorism in the West Bank, due to concerns of Israeli strikes against these figures, the Lebanese al-Akhbar newspaper reported on Monday
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC: Military Proclamation
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Recognition is NOT a requirement. No one needed to recognize it.

You cannot just make up your version of International Law.

You post constantly that Jordan annexed the West Bank. Only Britain and Pakistan recognized that attempt. The world considered the West Bank to be occupied Palestinian territory.
(COMMENT)

Montevideo Convention on Rights and Duties of States • December 26 said:
ARTICLE 3
The political existence of the state is independent of recognition by the other states. Even before recognition, the state has the right to defend its integrity and independence, to provide for its conservation and prosperity, and consequently to organize itself as it sees fit, to legislate upon its interests, administer its services, and to define the jurisdiction and competence of its courts.

I'm not sure what your reasoning is for even making such a challenge.

1611604183365.png

Most Respectfully,
R
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC: Military Proclamation
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Recognition is NOT a requirement. No one needed to recognize it.

You cannot just make up your version of International Law.


(COMMENT)



I'm not sure what your reasoning is for even making such a challenge.

1611604183365.png

Most Respectfully,
R
Montevideo Convention on Rights and Duties of States • December 26 said:


ARTICLE 3
The political existence of the state is independent of recognition by the other states.Even before recognition, the state has the right to defend its integrity and independence, to provide for its conservation and prosperity, and consequently to organize itself as it sees fit, to legislate upon its interests, administer its services, and to define the jurisdiction and competence of its courts.

Indeed.
--------------------

PALESTINE PROGRESS REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS
MEDIATOR ON PALESTINE

CABLEGRAM DATED 28 SEPTEMBER 1948 FROM THE PREMIER AND
ACTING FOREIGN SECRETARY OF ALL-PALESTINE GOVERNMENT
TO THE SECRETARY-GENERAL CONCERNING
CONSTITUTION OF ALL-PALESTINE GOVERNMENT


28 September 1948


I HAVE THE HONOR TO INFORM YOUR EXCELLENCY THAT IN VIRTUE OF THE NATURAL RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE FOR SELF-DETERMINATION WHICH PRINCIPLE IS SUPPORTED BY THE CHARTERS OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS, THE UNITED NATIONS AND OTHERS AND IN VIEW OF THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE OVER PALESTINE WHICH HAD PREVENTED THE ARABS FROM EXERCISING THEIR INDEPENDENCE, THE ARABS OF PALESTINE WHO ARE THE OWNERS OF THE COUNTRY AND ITS INDIGENOUS INHABITANTS AND WHO CONSTITUTE THE GREAT MAJORITY OF ITS LEGAL POPULATION HAVE SOLEMNLY RESOLVED TO DECLARE PALESTINE IN ITS ENTIRETY AND WITHIN ITS BOUNDARIES AS ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE AN INDEPENDENT STATE AND CONSTITUTED A GOVERNMENT UNDER THE NAME OF THE ALL-PALESTINE GOVERNMENT DERIVING ITS AUTHORITY FROM A REPRESENTATIVE COUNCIL BASED ON DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES AND AIMING TO SAFEGUARD THE RIGHTS OF MINORITIES AND FOREIGNERS PROTECT THE HOLY PLACES AND GUARANTEE FREEDOM OF WORSHIP TO ALL COMMUNITIES

AHMED HILMI PASHA
PREMIER AND ACTING FOREIGN SECRETARY

A C.1 330 of 14 October 1948
 
Let's just continue to give them more welfare money.




Hamas' Musab Al-Hashlamoun Urges West Bank Palestinians: Use YouTube, Social Media To Learn How To Use Weapons So That You Can Kill As Many Israelis As Possible
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC: APG SEPT 48
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Two provisional authorities can not lay claim to the same territory.
Indeed.
--------------------

PALESTINE PROGRESS REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS
MEDIATOR ON PALESTINE

CABLEGRAM DATED 28 SEPTEMBER 1948 FROM THE PREMIER AND

ACTING FOREIGN SECRETARY OF ALL-PALESTINE GOVERNMENT
TO THE SECRETARY-GENERAL CONCERNING
CONSTITUTION OF ALL-PALESTINE GOVERNMENT

28 September 1948


I HAVE THE HONOR TO INFORM YOUR EXCELLENCY THAT IN VIRTUE OF THE NATURAL RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE FOR SELF-DETERMINATION WHICH PRINCIPLE IS SUPPORTED BY THE CHARTERS OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS, THE UNITED NATIONS AND OTHERS AND IN VIEW OF THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE OVER PALESTINE WHICH HAD PREVENTED THE ARABS FROM EXERCISING THEIR INDEPENDENCE, THE ARABS OF PALESTINE WHO ARE THE OWNERS OF THE COUNTRY AND ITS INDIGENOUS INHABITANTS AND WHO CONSTITUTE THE GREAT MAJORITY OF ITS LEGAL POPULATION HAVE SOLEMNLY RESOLVED TO DECLARE PALESTINE IN ITS ENTIRETY AND WITHIN ITS BOUNDARIES AS ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE AN INDEPENDENT STATE AND CONSTITUTED A GOVERNMENT UNDER THE NAME OF THE ALL-PALESTINE GOVERNMENT DERIVING ITS AUTHORITY FROM A REPRESENTATIVE COUNCIL BASED ON DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES AND AIMING TO SAFEGUARD THE RIGHTS OF MINORITIES AND FOREIGNERS PROTECT THE HOLY PLACES AND GUARANTEE FREEDOM OF WORSHIP TO ALL COMMUNITIES

AHMED HILMI PASHA
PREMIER AND ACTING FOREIGN SECRETARY

A C.1 330 of 14 October 1948
(COMMENT)

Your example is NOT about recognition as a conditional right of self-determination. It is about the → taking of territory already claimed and beyond the possession and reach of the Arab Palestinians. The claim was frivolous.

I know you do not understand this concept, but the reality is that the Egyptian Government in Cairo dissolved the APG (All Palestine Government) in 1959. That (alone) is evidence that the APG was a mask.

1611604183365.png

Most Respectfully,
R
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC: APG SEPT 48
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Two provisional authorities can not lay claim to the same territory.

(COMMENT)

Your example is NOT about recognition as a conditional right of self-determination. It is about the → taking of territory already claimed and beyond the possession and reach of the Arab Palestinians. The claim was frivolous.

I know you do not understand this concept, but the reality is that the Egyptian Government in Cairo dissolved the APG (All Palestine Government) in 1959. That (alone) is evidence that the APG was a mask.

1611604183365.png

Most Respectfully,
R
Why don't you post a 1948 map of Israel and show where Palestine encroached on Israeli territory?
 
Why don't you post a 1948 map of Israel and show where Palestine encroached on Israeli territory?
Why don't you post a map, of any vintage, that shows some place you call pal'istan which was sovereign territory held by by something you call ''pal'istanians''?
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC: APG SEPT 48
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, this is another slight of hand, an illusionary defense by Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP).

Why don't you post a 1948 map of Israel and show where Palestine encroached on Israeli territory?
(COMMENT)

You are asking for something that does not exist. Their was no such country as "Palestine." There was no active organization that performed functions associated with that of a "government." In 1948, Palestine could not be identified as a state or a country nor could its authorities be identified as a government.

You can beat the drum all you want - that would suggest that there was something called a state, country, or government called Palestine that was established and directed by Palestinians. BUT, alas, there was not such thing.

(EPILOG)

Israel has seven (7) non-specific principle boundary instruments. The Palestinians do not have anything outlining or otherwise organized that are of a similar portfolio.

Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty (1994) •​

Whatever the case might have been in 1948, it is "today" that is determinative. It might be helpful if you could, as Israel can (along with the 4 adjacent Arab League States) point out a frontier that has, as the supreme authority one one side - The State of Palestine. The existence of the State of Palestine has no real objective means to distinguish it (by treaty or other such instrument) by a recognized frontier - one sovereignty versus another.

1611604183365.png

Most Respectfully,
R

1668765822056.png

• Memo "A" Legal Meaning of Termination - Palestine NOT A COUNTRY

1668766056925.png

• Memo DEC 2012 Under-Secretary General for Legal Affairs
 
They run a Mavis Discount Tire franchise as their day jobs. On lunch break they do gee-had dress-up.





Fatah Fighters Train At Ein Al-Hilweh Refugee Camp In Lebanon: We Are Ready To Liberate Palestine, The Al-Aqsa Mosque; We Follow In The Footsteps Of Yasser Arafat​



MTV99316.jpg
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC: APG SEPT 48
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, this is another slight of hand, an illusionary defense by Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP).


(COMMENT)

You are asking for something that does not exist. Their was no such country as "Palestine." There was no active organization that performed functions associated with that of a "government." In 1948, Palestine could not be identified as a state or a country nor could its authorities be identified as a government.

You can beat the drum all you want - that would suggest that there was something called a state, country, or government called Palestine that was established and directed by Palestinians. BUT, alas, there was not such thing.

(EPILOG)

Israel has seven (7) non-specific principle boundary instruments. The Palestinians do not have anything outlining or otherwise organized that are of a similar portfolio.

Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty (1994) •​

Whatever the case might have been in 1948, it is "today" that is determinative. It might be helpful if you could, as Israel can (along with the 4 adjacent Arab League States) point out a frontier that has, as the supreme authority one one side - The State of Palestine. The existence of the State of Palestine has no real objective means to distinguish it (by treaty or other such instrument) by a recognized frontier - one sovereignty versus another.

1611604183365.png

Most Respectfully,
R

View attachment 727716
• Memo "A" Legal Meaning of Termination - Palestine NOT A COUNTRY

View attachment 727717
• Memo DEC 2012 Under-Secretary General for Legal Affairs
Nice deflection. I asked for a 1948 map of Israel to see if the Palestinian declaration encroached on Israeli territory.

It was said that Palestine was too late and that Israel already claimed that territory without proving that assertion to be true.

I just want to clarify that.
 
Montevideo Convention on Rights and Duties of States • December 26 said:


ARTICLE 3
The political existence of the state is independent of recognition by the other states.Even before recognition, the state has the right to defend its integrity and independence, to provide for its conservation and prosperity, and consequently to organize itself as it sees fit, to legislate upon its interests, administer its services, and to define the jurisdiction and competence of its courts.

Indeed.
--------------------

PALESTINE PROGRESS REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS
MEDIATOR ON PALESTINE

CABLEGRAM DATED 28 SEPTEMBER 1948 FROM THE PREMIER AND
ACTING FOREIGN SECRETARY OF ALL-PALESTINE GOVERNMENT
TO THE SECRETARY-GENERAL CONCERNING
CONSTITUTION OF ALL-PALESTINE GOVERNMENT


28 September 1948


I HAVE THE HONOR TO INFORM YOUR EXCELLENCY THAT IN VIRTUE OF THE NATURAL RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE FOR SELF-DETERMINATION WHICH PRINCIPLE IS SUPPORTED BY THE CHARTERS OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS, THE UNITED NATIONS AND OTHERS AND IN VIEW OF THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE OVER PALESTINE WHICH HAD PREVENTED THE ARABS FROM EXERCISING THEIR INDEPENDENCE, THE ARABS OF PALESTINE WHO ARE THE OWNERS OF THE COUNTRY AND ITS INDIGENOUS INHABITANTS AND WHO CONSTITUTE THE GREAT MAJORITY OF ITS LEGAL POPULATION HAVE SOLEMNLY RESOLVED TO DECLARE PALESTINE IN ITS ENTIRETY AND WITHIN ITS BOUNDARIES AS ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE AN INDEPENDENT STATE AND CONSTITUTED A GOVERNMENT UNDER THE NAME OF THE ALL-PALESTINE GOVERNMENT DERIVING ITS AUTHORITY FROM A REPRESENTATIVE COUNCIL BASED ON DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES AND AIMING TO SAFEGUARD THE RIGHTS OF MINORITIES AND FOREIGNERS PROTECT THE HOLY PLACES AND GUARANTEE FREEDOM OF WORSHIP TO ALL COMMUNITIES

AHMED HILMI PASHA
PREMIER AND ACTING FOREIGN SECRETARY

A C.1 330 of 14 October 1948

Indeed.

We see there was never any "state of Pal'istan".


Indeed.
 

Forum List

Back
Top