Who are the Palestinians? An Arab Invention.

[Challenger]

I have been working with the Israelis since 1971 and I started serious study of the Bible back in 1967 and have read it cover to cover many times as well as studied it in Greek and Hebrew. I studied at Ouachita Baptist University, Christ for the Nations Institute, and served as an Assemblies of God Youth Pastor for a time. I also served in a Church connected in service to building recreation facilities for the Israeli Defense Forces and was the eldest moderator for a Israel Military Forum before I retired from it a few months ago I have studied Islam and the "Palestinian" conflict most of my adult life.

Wow, we'd better genuflect when we respond to you then.

All this "appeal to authority" fallacy says about you is that you've been thoroughly indoctrinated by the Hasbara put out by the Zionist regime and are incapable of critical thinking; you just regurgitate the Zionist talking points and You-tube videos as if they were divine revelations instead of the rampant bovine excrement they really are.

Zionists lie, period.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

In 1922 the word "Palestinian" meant any resident of British Mandate Palestine, Arab, Jew, Xtian, Druid, Methodist, Jedi ... what have you.

The word "Palestinian" didn't take on its current definition of Arab Only until 1967.

According to one state dept. official it was a term that came out of Baleshinka School ( a subversive technique School in Russia) where the Russians were training Arafat on the propaganda that the Arabs were the long lost people of Palestine. It was a very carefully crafted propaganda plot that has spanned decades and was rolled out in increments (from what we can see). I'd say they ripped a page out of Josef Goebbel's playbook. Tell a lie big enough, often enough and the people (some) will believe it.

Interesting fact. They were not able to hide the fact that these Arab Palestinians never had their own language, money, flag, etc. You know, the things that people who have a history in a country have? That was missing with these long lost Palestinians.

The word Palestinian was the term used for the inhabitants of the Roman province of Palaestina and an inhabitant of the province was called a
Palaestino and is present in Roman era documents. The ancestors of the current day native Muslim and Christian inhabitants spoke various languages through the centuries. Aramaic, Latin and Greek were the most common languages before the Muslim conquest. But, the Palestinians referred to themselves as the People of Palestine in communications with the British Colonial Office in the 1920s. Repeating Zionist propaganda doesn't make it true.

Oh please. Israel was like a barren wasteland before the Jews returned to it and put their hand to that soil. Then? It blooms like a rose in the middle of the desert! Just as God said it would! Read Mark Twain's account of what it looked like over there before the Jews returned to their land.
Yes. A barren wasteland. The Jews return to their homeland after their long exile had come to an end, the land is revived and comes to life and then?.......... and then suddenly Arabs are claiming they were there all along! Baloney! I can tell you now that Mark Twain's testimony is the precise opposite and I'll take his account of what it looked like.

He described a desolate country – devoid of both vegetation and human population:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.” - quote from Mark Twain Innocents Abroad

I remember the vast knowledge Mel Fechter had about Israel in the 20's, 30s and 40s. Benyamin Kahane was killed shortly after I got on the forum they were on so I would go back and read the posts between him and Mel and marvel at the heated arguments they would have but both of them were knowledgeable and were well versed in history and the Bible. I am sure that aris2chat ,MJB12741 and Roudy can verify my claims.

Mel, wrote books on jews, he sent me all of them

In 1922 the word "Palestinian" meant any resident of British Mandate Palestine, Arab, Jew, Xtian, Druid, Methodist, Jedi ... what have you.

The word "Palestinian" didn't take on its current definition of Arab Only until 1967.

According to one state dept. official it was a term that came out of Baleshinka School ( a subversive technique School in Russia) where the Russians were training Arafat on the propaganda that the Arabs were the long lost people of Palestine. It was a very carefully crafted propaganda plot that has spanned decades and was rolled out in increments (from what we can see). I'd say they ripped a page out of Josef Goebbel's playbook. Tell a lie big enough, often enough and the people (some) will believe it.

Interesting fact. They were not able to hide the fact that these Arab Palestinians never had their own language, money, flag, etc. You know, the things that people who have a history in a country have? That was missing with these long lost Palestinians.

The word Palestinian was the term used for the inhabitants of the Roman province of Palaestina and an inhabitant of the province was called a
Palaestino and is present in Roman era documents. The ancestors of the current day native Muslim and Christian inhabitants spoke various languages through the centuries. Aramaic, Latin and Greek were the most common languages before the Muslim conquest. But, the Palestinians referred to themselves as the People of Palestine in communications with the British Colonial Office in the 1920s. Repeating Zionist propaganda doesn't make it true.

Oh please. Israel was like a barren wasteland before the Jews returned to it and put their hand to that soil. Then? It blooms like a rose in the middle of the desert! Just as God said it would! Read Mark Twain's account of what it looked like over there before the Jews returned to their land.
Yes. A barren wasteland. The Jews return to their homeland after their long exile had come to an end, the land is revived and comes to life and then?.......... and then suddenly Arabs are claiming they were there all along! Baloney! I can tell you now that Mark Twain's testimony is the precise opposite and I'll take his account of what it looked like.

He described a desolate country – devoid of both vegetation and human population:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.” - quote from Mark Twain Innocents Abroad

I remember the vast knowledge Mel Fechter had about Israel in the 20's, 30s and 40s. Benyamin Kahane was killed shortly after I got on the forum they were on so I would go back and read the posts between him and Mel and marvel at the heated arguments they would have but both of them were knowledgeable and were well versed in history and the Bible. I am sure that aris2chat ,MJB12741 and Roudy can verify my claims.

Mel, wrote books on jews, he sent me all of them

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

Forgive the tone, it is the sound of frustration because some of you insist on beating this dead horse. You simply do not realize just how transparent this lie of the long lost Palestinian people is. I'm guessing you're in your early 30's? Go find a set of Encylopedia's pre-1960 and find the word "Palestinian." You won't find it in any of them. Why won't you find it? The Jews never called themselves Palestinians. They called themselves Jews, Hebrews or Israelites. And the long lost Palestinians? They discovered who they were in the 1960's after Arafat told them to start calling themselves Palestinians. Thousands of years of amnesia? Time warp? Lost in space? How to explain. You can't. Cut your losses and drop it. You have nothing and you know it.

Palestinians were created by post WWI treaties. That was merely a name change for the people who already lived there.

Keep writing your fiction I'm sure there are some stupid people who will buy in to it just like those buying copies of Mein Kampf today.

I know it is not the Israeli bullshit that you eat with a spoon but it is true. Look it up.

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

? I never called anyone a name. The next time you quote someone please use their quote instead of someone else's. That was Paparock informing Tinmore than he is a racist and an anti-Semite. You might also want to check your friend who was cursing at him and using vile language. I have found that people tend to get what they dish out. If your friend doesn't want to be accused of being an anti-Semite Racist perhaps he shouldn't behave like one.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

Forgive the tone, it is the sound of frustration because some of you insist on beating this dead horse. You simply do not realize just how transparent this lie of the long lost Palestinian people is. I'm guessing you're in your early 30's? Go find a set of Encylopedia's pre-1960 and find the word "Palestinian." You won't find it in any of them. Why won't you find it? The Jews never called themselves Palestinians. They called themselves Jews, Hebrews or Israelites. And the long lost Palestinians? They discovered who they were in the 1960's after Arafat told them to start calling themselves Palestinians. Thousands of years of amnesia? Time warp? Lost in space? How to explain. You can't. Cut your losses and drop it. You have nothing and you know it.

Palestinians were created by post WWI treaties. That was merely a name change for the people who already lived there.

Keep writing your fiction I'm sure there are some stupid people who will buy in to it just like those buying copies of Mein Kampf today.

I know it is not the Israeli bullshit that you eat with a spoon but it is true. Look it up.

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

 

[Challenger]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

Palestinians were created by post WWI treaties. That was merely a name change for the people who already lived there.

Keep writing your fiction I'm sure there are some stupid people who will buy in to it just like those buying copies of Mein Kampf today.

I know it is not the Israeli bullshit that you eat with a spoon but it is true. Look it up.

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

If a Mosque has stood there for over 1300 years, longer than the current St. Peter's Basilica in Rome, I think it qualifies as a holy site to the adherants of the religion of Islam, and is probably more holy than a Hellenistic retaining wall that supported a military fortress, that some Jewish traveller mistook for the remnants of a temple. You are right, however, Zionist Israel is not a "holy site" for Muslims. Palestinians do have the right to claim Jerusalem as the capital city of their state.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

Keep writing your fiction I'm sure there are some stupid people who will buy in to it just like those buying copies of Mein Kampf today.

I know it is not the Israeli bullshit that you eat with a spoon but it is true. Look it up.

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

If a Mosque has stood there for over 1300 years, longer than the current St. Peter's Basilica in Rome, I think it qualifies as a holy site to the adherants of the religion of Islam, and is probably more holy than a Hellenistic retaining wall that supported a military fortress, that some Jewish traveller mistook for the remnants of a temple. You are right, however, Zionist Israel is not a "holy site" for Muslims. Palestinians do have the right to claim Jerusalem as the capital city of their state.

Ha! Ha! What State? The Arabs do not have a State nor do they have any claim to Israeli land! Jerusalem is the Capitol of Israel, the eternal Capitol of Israel and the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians (but are not) need to go back to the lands from which they came. They don't belong there.

I'm wondering about your avatar. A rat in a hat? Is that a spin off from Dr. Seuss's Cat in the hat? I do believe you just might have a future in Children's tales! After all, who else would believe you?

 

[Eloy]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

Palestinians were created by post WWI treaties. That was merely a name change for the people who already lived there.

Keep writing your fiction I'm sure there are some stupid people who will buy in to it just like those buying copies of Mein Kampf today.

I know it is not the Israeli bullshit that you eat with a spoon but it is true. Look it up.

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

I neither know nor care what is in the Koran.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

Keep writing your fiction I'm sure there are some stupid people who will buy in to it just like those buying copies of Mein Kampf today.

I know it is not the Israeli bullshit that you eat with a spoon but it is true. Look it up.

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

I neither know nor care what is in the Koran.

Neither do I but for the sake of proving that the Arabs had never claimed any holy site in Israel as their own (throughout history - how old is the Qur'an?) it serves its purpose.. Mohammad knew that Israel belonged to the Jews.

 

[aris2chat]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

Keep writing your fiction I'm sure there are some stupid people who will buy in to it just like those buying copies of Mein Kampf today.

I know it is not the Israeli bullshit that you eat with a spoon but it is true. Look it up.

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

If a Mosque has stood there for over 1300 years, longer than the current St. Peter's Basilica in Rome, I think it qualifies as a holy site to the adherants of the religion of Islam, and is probably more holy than a Hellenistic retaining wall that supported a military fortress, that some Jewish traveller mistook for the remnants of a temple. You are right, however, Zionist Israel is not a "holy site" for Muslims. Palestinians do have the right to claim Jerusalem as the capital city of their state.

That mosque and dome were both neglected and nearly in ruin. It was not a major attraction to pilgrims.

 

[montelatici]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

That is a Zionist myth, and it has been repeated often enough that now it is believed by the brainwashed, unfortunately. The Koran mentions the city of Jerusalem several times, most poignantly in the "flight" from Mecca to Jerusalem where in the Koran it is transliterated to Baytul Maqdis, the location where the Al Aqsa mosque was built. Now, the silliness of the claim of a flight can be questioned, but Jerusalem is mentioned.

 

[Eloy]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

I know it is not the Israeli bullshit that you eat with a spoon but it is true. Look it up.

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

I neither know nor care what is in the Koran.

Neither do I but for the sake of proving that the Arabs had never claimed any holy site in Israel as their own (throughout history - how old is the Qur'an?) it serves its purpose.. Mohammad knew that Israel belonged to the Jews.

I am assured that the Al-Aqsa Mosque is the third holiest site in Islam.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

I know it is not the Israeli bullshit that you eat with a spoon but it is true. Look it up.

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

If a Mosque has stood there for over 1300 years, longer than the current St. Peter's Basilica in Rome, I think it qualifies as a holy site to the adherants of the religion of Islam, and is probably more holy than a Hellenistic retaining wall that supported a military fortress, that some Jewish traveller mistook for the remnants of a temple. You are right, however, Zionist Israel is not a "holy site" for Muslims. Palestinians do have the right to claim Jerusalem as the capital city of their state.

That mosque and dome were both neglected and nearly in ruin. It was not a major attraction to pilgrims.

Mark Twain said Israel was like a barren wasteland when he visited, void of human beings, vegetation, life. It wasn't until the Jews returned that everything was restored to its former beauty. Once the Arabs saw the Jews return and make the land beautiful it suddenly become theirs as if they ever had a claim to it. They do not.

How would they feel if the Jews went to Arabia and said Mecca is our 3rd holiest site. Move that rock. That is our Temple Site and you will no longer be permitted to come and pray here. I wonder what they would say about that?

 

[montelatici]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

I know it is not the Israeli bullshit that you eat with a spoon but it is true. Look it up.

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

I neither know nor care what is in the Koran.

Neither do I but for the sake of proving that the Arabs had never claimed any holy site in Israel as their own (throughout history - how old is the Qur'an?) it serves its purpose.. Mohammad knew that Israel belonged to the Jews.

Palestine was an exclusively Christian land during Mohammed's time, Jews in Palestine had long before converted to Christianity, of course he would say it belonged to another enemy of the Christians.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

I neither know nor care what is in the Koran.

Neither do I but for the sake of proving that the Arabs had never claimed any holy site in Israel as their own (throughout history - how old is the Qur'an?) it serves its purpose.. Mohammad knew that Israel belonged to the Jews.

I am assured that the Al-Aqsa Mosque is the third holiest site in Islam.

By whom? Mohammad? Mohammad is burning in hell and if you don't repent you'll be joining him.

 

[aris2chat]

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

I neither know nor care what is in the Koran.

Neither do I but for the sake of proving that the Arabs had never claimed any holy site in Israel as their own (throughout history - how old is the Qur'an?) it serves its purpose.. Mohammad knew that Israel belonged to the Jews.

I am assured that the Al-Aqsa Mosque is the third holiest site in Islam.

Hala Sultan Tekke is

 

[montelatici]

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

So?

Keep peddling Timore, you anti-Semite Racist you are a dime a dozen! I'm sure. Hell is only half full and there is a special place all ready for you I am sure.

Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

If a Mosque has stood there for over 1300 years, longer than the current St. Peter's Basilica in Rome, I think it qualifies as a holy site to the adherants of the religion of Islam, and is probably more holy than a Hellenistic retaining wall that supported a military fortress, that some Jewish traveller mistook for the remnants of a temple. You are right, however, Zionist Israel is not a "holy site" for Muslims. Palestinians do have the right to claim Jerusalem as the capital city of their state.

That mosque and dome were both neglected and nearly in ruin. It was not a major attraction to pilgrims.

Mark Twain said Israel was like a barren wasteland when he visited, void of human beings, vegetation, life. It wasn't until the Jews returned that everything was restored to its former beauty. Once the Arabs saw the Jews return and make the land beautiful it suddenly become theirs as if they ever had a claim to it. They do not.

How would they feel if the Jews went to Arabia and said Mecca is our 3rd holiest site. Move that rock. That is our Temple Site and you will no longer be permitted to come and pray here. I wonder what they would say about that?

You mean this?

" barren hills, sometimes surmounted by three or four graceful columns of some ancient temples, lonely and deserted---a fitting symbol of desolation that has come upon all ...... in these latter ages. We saw no ploughed fields, very few villages, no trees or grass or vegetation of any kind, scarcely, and hardly ever an isolated house............. is a bleak, unsmiling desert, without agriculture, manufactures, or commerce, apparently."

By the way, Mark Twain was traveling in the area months after the Christian-Druze war ended, it would barren and certainly, in the summer, Mediterranean countries tend to be dry and arid.

However, the best exposition of how the Zionists brainwashed much of the West is handled very deftly in the documentary film "Seeds of Conflict 1913". Excellent documentary written by an American Jew, who once believed the propaganda and was so overwhelmed at the depth of the deception after studying the conflict, he produced this excellent work. Perhaps the most poignant revelation was the photo of the Zionists on sand dunes where Tel Aviv was to be constructed. The documentary shows them to beach sand dunes and that turning the camera 180 degrees one would see Christian and Muslim owned citrus orchards and greenery and the busy port of Haifa, an Arab city.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

That is a Zionist myth, and it has been repeated often enough that now it is believed by the brainwashed, unfortunately. The Koran mentions the city of Jerusalem several times, most poignantly in the "flight" from Mecca to Jerusalem where in the Koran it is transliterated to Baytul Maqdis, the location where the Al Aqsa mosque was built. Now, the silliness of the claim of a flight can be questioned, but Jerusalem is mentioned.

No it doesn't. Quote the link and suras that say Jerusalem. They don't exist. As for the "flight from Mecca to Jerusalem that Mohammad thought he had taken during the night? When he told his family members about it that morning they told him he had never left the house all night and it was just a dream. No one took it seriously until it was needed as an excuse to build a mosque and stake a claim - something Islam has been doing from the beginning. It's called land theft. Pakistan was carved out of India by Muslims waging jihad against the people of India and before you know it? The story is changing on the Taj Mahal and now we get news that it has something to do with Muslims. Wait for the story about how Islam built the Eiffel Tower and the leaning tower of Pisa next. There may be one in the works even now...........

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

So?
Shame on you for becoming so personally insulting. Quit the scurrilous name-calling.

I tell you that the Qu'ran does not mention Jerusalem once by name and your response is So? Let me ask you something. If Jerusalem was a holy site of Islam don't you think that it would be mentioned repeatedly throughout your book rather than to be completely absent? Why do you think that Jerusalem is not mentioned in your Koran? It's not mentioned because Israel has nothing to do with Islam. The mosque you see in Israel has no business being there. Israel is not a holy site for Muslims. It's time you admitted it. It's time the WORLD ADMITTED IT.

If a Mosque has stood there for over 1300 years, longer than the current St. Peter's Basilica in Rome, I think it qualifies as a holy site to the adherants of the religion of Islam, and is probably more holy than a Hellenistic retaining wall that supported a military fortress, that some Jewish traveller mistook for the remnants of a temple. You are right, however, Zionist Israel is not a "holy site" for Muslims. Palestinians do have the right to claim Jerusalem as the capital city of their state.

That mosque and dome were both neglected and nearly in ruin. It was not a major attraction to pilgrims.

Mark Twain said Israel was like a barren wasteland when he visited, void of human beings, vegetation, life. It wasn't until the Jews returned that everything was restored to its former beauty. Once the Arabs saw the Jews return and make the land beautiful it suddenly become theirs as if they ever had a claim to it. They do not.

How would they feel if the Jews went to Arabia and said Mecca is our 3rd holiest site. Move that rock. That is our Temple Site and you will no longer be permitted to come and pray here. I wonder what they would say about that?

You mean this?

" barren hills, sometimes surmounted by three or four graceful columns of some ancient temples, lonely and deserted---a fitting symbol of desolation that has come upon all ...... in these latter ages. We saw no ploughed fields, very few villages, no trees or grass or vegetation of any kind, scarcely, and hardly ever an isolated house............. is a bleak, unsmiling desert, without agriculture, manufactures, or commerce, apparently."

By the way, Mark Twain was traveling in the area months after the Christian-Druze war ended, it would barren and certainly, in the summer, Mediterranean countries tend to be dry and arid.

However, the best exposition of how the Zionists brainwashed much of the West is handled very deftly in the documentary film "Seeds of Conflict 1913". Excellent documentary written by an American Jew, who once believed the propaganda and was so overwhelmed at the depth of the deception after studying the conflict, he produced this excellent work. Perhaps the most poignant revelation was the photo of the Zionists on sand dunes where Tel Aviv was to be constructed. The documentary shows them to beach sand dunes and that turning the camera 180 degrees one would see Christian and Muslim owned citrus orchards and greenery and the busy port of Haifa, an Arab city.

No thanks. I've heard enough nonsense already.

 

[montelatici]

I have no interest in the Koran, but I understand that it is a Zionist myth that the city of Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Koran. The prophet was supposed to have flown from there to somewhere and the Muslims used pray with their asses in the air towards the city. But it doesn't matter much to me. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible and the Palestinians are Christians too, in fact 30% of the Palestinians world wide are Christians. As far as the city not named in the Koran, I think this will debunk another Zionist myth.

Myth: The Quran never mentions Jerusalem | TurnToIslam Islamic Forum & Social Network

The Quran does not mention Jerusalem a single time. I'm not interested in your revised books or what you've added after the fact. The truth is that when the Qur'an was written (approx 10 years after Mohammad's death) there was no mention of Jerusalem. NOT ONCE.

That is a Zionist myth, and it has been repeated often enough that now it is believed by the brainwashed, unfortunately. The Koran mentions the city of Jerusalem several times, most poignantly in the "flight" from Mecca to Jerusalem where in the Koran it is transliterated to Baytul Maqdis, the location where the Al Aqsa mosque was built. Now, the silliness of the claim of a flight can be questioned, but Jerusalem is mentioned.

No it doesn't. Quote the link and suras that say Jerusalem. They don't exist. As for the "flight from Mecca to Jerusalem that Mohammad thought he had taken during the night? When he told his family members about it that morning they told him he had never left the house all night and it was just a dream. No one took it seriously until it was needed as an excuse to build a mosque and stake a claim - something Islam has been doing from the beginning. It's called land theft. Pakistan was carved out of India by Muslims waging jihad against the people of India and before you know it? The story is changing on the Taj Mahal and now we get news that it has something to do with Muslims. Wait for the story about how Islam built the Eiffel Tower and the leaning tower of Pisa next. There may be one in the works even now...........

The point is, the Mark Twain quote I provided was describing Greece in and around Athens and sounds worse than Palestine. That should tell you that Mark Twain's observations are an absurd choice for accurate descriptions of Palestine.

Firstly, the Mughals were from central Asia, contiguous with India and as a people were descendants of the Mongols. That they adopted Islam was an historical coincidence. The Mongols were the way they were long before they adopted Islam. In fact, Islam may have made them less brutal.

Well, the Taj Mahal was built by a Muslim, Sha Jahan a Mughal Emperor, as the tomb for his favorite wife.

You know very little beyond the propaganda you have been conditioned by. That conditioning will not help you here, most of us are neutrals that know the facts and have a decent grasp of history. Also, we are able to discern the Hasbara trained posters too.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I was an advocate for Israel before Hasbara was even founded although I support what they are doing. I was there as the beginning of Step Up For Israel and was an usher at the Atlanta Synagogue that hosted the first Step up for Israel event. Dennis Praeger was the guest speaker and we handed out plenty of material to help the people get educated on Arab propaganda against Israel and their hate agenda on US Campuses. Hasbara and Step up for Israel are great for countering the lies that have been continually targeting Israel and the Jewish people. I don't agree with Hasbara in their stating the willingness of Israel to sacrifice their land for peace and discussions of a two state solution. I believe the Arabs have no claim to the land and should be driven out of the land entirely. By any means necessary. All land that has been given to the Arabs should be taken back and returned to the Jewish people. Israel is a Jewish State. Not an Arab one.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

In case I forgot to mention it I am 100% against a 2 state solution. The Arabs must go.