Who are the Israelis?

[struth]

So you’d still support Israel even if they’ve murdered 500,000 Palestinians. Gotcha.

Psychopath!

I literally said I don’t support death at all

 

[gipper]

I literally said I don’t support death at all

Lol. Why won’t you answer the question?

 

[struth]

Lol. Why won’t you answer the question?

I did, twice now

 

[rylah]

I did, twice now

Did the reward come?

 

[ding]

Should we censor God to fit your dogma,
or follow your example in war conduct?

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That's probably the same thing they told the prophets.

"From the eighth to the sixth centuries B. C., during which Israel and Judah tottered before the aggressive power of Syria, Assyria, Egypt, and Babylon, the prophets found meaning in their predicament by seeing it as God's way of underscoring the demand for righteousness.

 

[ding]

Not only does Israel not trust God and have forgotten God, they have forgotten what Judaism teaches.

Judaism teaches a highly practical and ethical approach to enemies, balancing the right to self-defense with profound moral obligations to restrain hatred, act with fairness, and avoid the destructive power of revenge. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Key tenets of this approach include:

• Ban on Vengeance and Grudges: The Torah strictly forbids taking revenge or bearing a grudge (Leviticus 19:18). Instead of holding onto toxic anger, Judaism emphasizes clearing grievances from your mind. [1]
• Mandatory Assistance: The Torah commands you to help your enemy in times of need. For example, if you see your enemy's animal struggling under a heavy load, you are obligated to stop and help them unpack and reload it (Exodus 23:4-5). The Talmud (Bava Metzia 32b) teaches that you should help an enemy before a friend to actively overcome your own negative impulses. [1, 2, 3]
• Practical Self-Defense: While you are expected to be kind and fair, you are absolutely permitted to protect yourself from harm. The tradition teaches that if someone is actively trying to harm you, you may defend yourself, but you should not harm them beyond the point of neutralizing their threat. [1, 2, 3, 4]
• Conquering Hatred: Instead of commanding the nearly impossible task of loving an enemy, Judaism expects individuals to conquer their "evil inclination" (yetzer hara) by refusing to let hatred consume them and treating their adversary with basic decency. [1]
• Transformative Justice: The classic ethical text Pirkei Avot (Ethics of the Fathers) defines true strength not as defeating a rival, but as the ability to transform an enemy into a friend through humility and self-control. [1, 2]

Don't poke the bear.

 

[rylah]

That's probably the same thing they told the prophets.

the prophets found meaning in their predicament by seeing it as God's way of underscoring the demand for righteousness.

And who do you think wrote the Psalm?

Preaching isn't your strong suit.

 

[gipper]

I did, twice now

If Israel murdered 500,000 Palestinians, will you stop supporting it?

Yes or no?

 

[gipper]

Mostly on your preacher kind.

Come get some - you'd be purified.

So you are posting from Israel, as I thought.

 

[rylah]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Lol. You aren’t informed.

Ever heard of the Nakba?

80 years of Arab loser whining.
Who hasn't heard the whining?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I can arrange that if you behave,

the new pope is kinda meh...

No kidding, he's a White Sox fan.

 

[rosends]

Lol. You aren’t informed.

Ever heard of the Nakba?

Here us some historical background on the Nakba.


"This, ironically, was the opposite of the original meaning of the term, when it was first applied to the Arab-Israeli conflict by the Syrian historian Constantin Zureiq. In his 1948 pamphlet The Meaning of the Disaster (Ma’na al-Nakba), Zureiq attributed the Palestinian/Arab flight to the stillborn pan-Arab assault on the nascent Jewish state rather than to a premeditated Zionist design to disinherit the Palestinian Arabs:

When the battle broke out, our public diplomacy began to speak of our imaginary victories, to put the Arab public to sleep and talk of the ability to overcome and win easily – until the Nakba happened…We must admit our mistakes…and recognize the extent of our responsibility for the disaster that is our lot.

Zureiq subscribed to this critical view for decades. In a later book, The Meaning of the Catastrophe Anew (Ma‘na al-Nakbah Mujaddadan) published after the June 1967 war, he defined that latest defeat as a “Nakba” rather than a “Naksa” (or setback), as it came to be known in Arab discourse, since – just as in 1948 – it was a self-inflicted disaster emanating from the Arab world’s failure to confront Zionism."

 

[ding]

And who do you think wrote the Psalm?

Preaching isn't your strong suit.

People who hadn't forgotten God.

 

[struth]

If Israel murdered 500,000 Palestinians, will you stop supporting it?

Yes or no?

I’ve answered that question twice now

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If Israel murdered 500,000 Palestinians, will you stop supporting it?

Yes or no?

How many war crimes can the Palestinians commit before you stop supporting them?

 

[rylah]

People who hadn't forgotten God.

Is this why they tried to burn Abraham?

May your little dogma perish.

 

[rylah]

 

[ding]

Is this why they tried to burn Abraham?

May your little dogma perish.

Isaiah 29:13: "The Lord says: 'These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught.'"

 

[rylah]

Isaiah 29:13: "The Lord says: 'These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught.'"

Isn't this the most beautiful compliment?

Indeed we come near even when our hearts are far.