Who are the Israelis?

[rylah]

The World Continues to Try and Curse the Jews and Israel, but it Always Fails

Every nation in history has been affected by the way it treated the Jews.
The evidence is endless and clear.

This week’s Torah portion is Balak (Numbers 22:2-25:9), and in it we read how Balak, the evil King of Moav, hired the evil prophet/wizard Balaam to curse the Jews. Balaam was hesitant to take on the job as God appeared to him several times, telling him, “You must not curse that people, for they are blessed.”

After much persistence, God allowed Balaam to take the job, as long as he would only pronounce upon the Jews what God would put in his mouth, as it says, “Go with the men. But you must say nothing except what I tell you.”

Nevertheless, Balaam made good efforts to try and curse the Jews, but he failed each time. Indeed, he eventually admits, “How can I curse whom God has not cursed? . . . Who can count the dust of Jacob, number the “dust-cloud” of Israel? May my fate be like theirs!”



Balaam tried and tried, but ultimately failed. “When He blesses, I cannot reverse it. The Lord their God is with them.” Balak then fired Balaam…he was useless!

Many readers might realize that the story of Balaam is reminiscent of Genesis 12:3. “I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.” The world continues to try and curse the Jews. But it always backfires. We have it “in writing” from God that it always will!

Genesis 12:3 has been tried, tested, and retested year after year for thousands of years. The ending is always the same. The Torah announces to the world, “Bless Israel and the Jewish people and you will be blessed. Curse Israel and the Jewish people and you will be cursed.” There’s no running from it.

Harry Truman’s presidential win is widely attributed to Genesis 12:3. Apparently Truman was responsible –against the advice of Secretary of State General George C. Marshall and US Ambassador to the United Nations Warren Austin – for the US recognizing the independence of the State of Israel a mere 11 minutes after it was announced. Truman’s efforts on behalf of Israel and the Jewish people are remembered and appreciated to this day. Truman was a man of the Bible, a man of faith.

The Examples Are Endless
Let’s look at Genesis 12:3 throughout history. The examples are endless.

Back in the Bible, when Abimelech “took” Sarah for his pleasures, God turned against him. But once he returned Sarah to Abraham, he was blessed.

Pharaoh was warned with 10 plagues to let the Jews go. He didn’t make the right decisions. It didn’t end well for him.

The Amalekites were the first nation to attack the Jewish people after the Exodus from Egypt. It didn’t end well for them either. Do YOU know any Amalekites today? I sure don’t.

Rahab saved the lives of her two Jewish guests in Jericho. She was the only one to survive the conquest of Jericho.

Ruth’s “Your people will be my people and your God my God” served her quite well.

Stalin, a horrible anti-Semite, suffered a stroke on February 28, 1953. That day was the Jewish holiday of Purim, which commemorates the salvation of the Jewish people in ancient Iran from Haman’s plot to destroy the Jewish people. Stalin was the Haman of his time.

Let’s talk about Britain. Under the leadership of the Jewish Benjamin Disraeli (1804 – 1881), England thrived. It was during the 19th and 20th centuries that Britain prospered and even dominated world trade. And then in 1917 the British Foreign Office famously announced: “His Majesty’s Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.” This became known as the Balfour declaration. The 1920 San Remo Peace Conference gave Britain a ‘Mandate for Palestine’ based upon the Balfour Declaration and this was formalized in 1922 by the League of Nations.” The primary purpose of the Mandate was to grant political rights in Palestine to the Jewish people.

But Britain reneged on the Jews. The Peel and Woodhead commissions of 1937/38 recommended partitioning Palestine into a small Jewish state and a large Arab state – against the promises and intentions of the Mandate. And then there was the British White Paper of 1939, which essentially blocked Jewish immigration to Palestine. These policies repudiated the Balfour Declaration and Britain’s commitments when the Jewish people needed it most.

But there’s more. The “Exodus” ship of July 1947 with over 4000 Jews, mostly Holocaust survivors, was attacked and seized by the British Navy as it prepared to dock in Palestine. The passengers were rounded upon and forcibly put on ship headed back to Europe.

Could it be that Britain was a recipient of “those who curse you will be cursed” for her treatment of the Jews? It sure looks that way! Let’s see.

Britain’s status began to decline quickly, especially after she handed over the mandate on Palestine to the League of Nations. For example, Britain used to have the most enviable navy in the world, with over 800 destroyers in 1945. But by 1950, just five years later, the navy was reduced to 250 destroyers and continued to decline.

Britain used to control 25 percent of the planet, but the number of people under British rule went from 700 million in 1945 to less than five million in 1965. Britain’s influence declined big time. The once famous saying “The sun never sets on the British empire” is little more than a joke nowadays.

Donald Trump and Israel
Let’s take a look at one of Israel’s best friends in the world today: Donald J. Trump.

In May 2017, President Trump, on the advice of his advisers, delayed the planned move of the US embassy in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. The months that followed were very turbulent times for Trump and his presidency. Indeed, after the Charlottesville fiasco, there was question whether he would even serve out his term.

But then he recognized Jerusalem on December 6, 2017. Two weeks later he signed his tax cuts into law with a razor-thin win of 51-48. These cuts led to one of the strongest economies America has ever experienced,with unemployment down to 3.6 percent. God was clearly blessing America.

Every nation in history has been affected by the way it treated the Jews. The evidence is endless and clear. No, Israel is not perfect. The Jews are not perfect. But the world must realize that they should align themselves with God and the Jews, and they too will be blessed!

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Every nation in history has been affected by the way it treated the Jews. The evidence is endless and clear.

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Well, it also will be fair to say that the 20th century was the end of all colonial empires. And the ground for British economic and military might was laid long before Disraeli.

The Zohar mentions the end of the 18th century, the 7th decade if I remember correctly,
as being the age of the "opening of the gates of Wisdom", having directly to do with preparing the world for Israel's redemption. In the wider perspective, that's also about the time when the animus of Jews among the nations also grew bigger and more powerful - instead of being powerless and humiliated, we all of a sudden became the strongest political-economic-power to take the world, in any variety of conspiracy theories one likes.

This shift in the view of the Jewish diaspora aligned with a shift in the state of the Jewish nation as a whole ,and diaspora specifically. Many things happened at the time, and it does seem many Jews were instrumental in major revolutionary developments at the time and later, these outbursts of energy from the ghettos, after Jews were allowed out,
were a direct expression to what the Zohar mentions.

 

[rylah]

"Donald Trump does not have a right to set Israeli borders"

Either this woman did not read the plan or she did not understand it.

If anyone on this planet read it, carefully, who would those be?
She is the grandmother of every Jewish village in Judea Samaria.

Listen, I know You intend well,
but this is already not about Trump or the US,

it's about how PM Netanyahu,
will be remembered in Jewish history.

From what she is saying, it is clear she either never read it or didn't understand it. Hopefully these rumors she is spreading will not prevent annexation from going forward.

What rumors?
She said that she builds allover Judea.
Never saw any divisions, never sees any divisions,
and will never recognize any that would prevent Jewish sovereignty in any part of Judea.

Do You know who are the women that initiated and stand behind the sovereignty process?

She is a very fine speaker, but once again she fails to see there would not be enough support within Israel to apply sovereignty to even 50% of area C without the expectation that the US would recognize it.

She misrepresents the Trump plan with respect to a Palestinian state, but the upside is, she is not part of the negotiating team, so it is likely the annexation of half of area C will proceed.

I think it's a false assumption.
For sovereignty in towns like Ma'ale Edumin,
for the Gush 'Atziyon area there's full wide consensus, independent of US support.

She is the representative of the Sovereignty Youth movement on the ground,
and behind her stands the leadership of the local councils - the people who live there and who initiated the whole process, to move beyond the discourse of the 2-state disaster.

Her goal is not negotiations,
but to establish facts on the ground and change the discourse.

Everyone already understands all of Judea is destined for Israel's sovereignty, inevitable,
even Arabs realize that, what's left for PM Netanyahu is to decide whether he sets young Israel on a collision course with the agreements he now discusses, or removes the obstacles.

People are tired of dividing the land.
We want only Israeli sovereignty - all else is trouble.

But the political reality is that before Trump proposed annexation, the serious talks within the government were not about annexation but about how much new building to allow within established settlements and how many outposts should be demolished.

I'm sure the air is purer when your head is in the clouds and you are sure you can see far into the future, but progress is made on the ground in tough political negotiations in which no one gets everything he or she wants. Whatever the settler leaders may say in public, they know that when they go to Jerusalem they have to haggle and bargain to get even a small part of what they want. She may be the leader of the Youth Sovereignty Movement, but Donald Trump is the leader of the sovereignty movement that will allow Israel to annex half of area C after more than a half century of being afraid to annex any part of it.

I don't get it, You seriously believe that it was the current US admin
that made application of sovereignty a central focus of Israeli political discourse?
Was PM Begin's application of sovereignty in the Golan function of Pres. Trump's approval?

2nd Sovereignty Conference 2012:

You talk about discussions but I am talking about facts on the ground. Begin was a remarkable man, but in the last 40 years nothing more has been annexed until Trump's plan is making it a reality.

On the ground?
You are the one basing the argument on discussions and signed papers,
while I'm trying to keep pointing to the people who establish those facts on the ground.

There's no need to annex anything really, even today the addresses of those villages and towns are registered under the Israeli civil administration, as anyone else. And the transportation ministry has been already on full integration project of new smart infrastructure specifically focusing on Judea Samaria, before any of this came about.

Someone is selling "lokshim" here by confusing people with the vocabulary.
It's all 100% independent Israeli move of any US position or capacity,
the support is instrumental, but not the definitive.

It's a move rooted on exclusively our sovereign decision,
and it's not in our national interests anymore to neither recognize the enemy,
nor accept any notions of obstructions to our national rights - read the Likud platform.

lol So now annexation is of no importance? Without it, the dream of a Palestinian state in all of Judea and Samaria will continue to percolate in the minds of the Palestinians and Europeans. Without annexation Israel will forever be dealing with building freezes outside of established settlements, however, with annexation there is no argument against building anywhere in the annexed area. The issue is annexation. Either you are for it or you are against it, and you now appear to be against it.

I have to disagree.
First we never annexed anything, because the the Mandate is the last binding international agreement, which allots Judea for the sovereignty of the Jewish nation,
and nothing supersedes it. We don't need to annex anything,
just apply Israeli law as in the Golan.

It is exactly the false notion of annexation and negotiations that feed into the minds of the Arabs and Europeans. It's no different if CHAZ was supported by Europeans, and instead of bringing law and order, we started talking about 'US annexation of CHAZ', then say You have to annex and negotiate, otherwise it feeds into the false dreams of criminals. And clearly that's the opposite of reality, what ends such dreams is bringing law and order, and having police on the ground instead of the army - not conceding into notions of negotiation.

The freezes only come when the US pressures Israel to make "gestures",
none of this is required with application of sovereignty.

With annexation You get into negotiation and freezes,
with application of sovereignty You get the same freezes, but without the political costs of feeding into self-defeating illusions of leveraged responsibility to be inherited for the next generation, which helps neither involved but the corrupt Pali leaders and the Left.

So you say the annexation of Jerusalem and the Golan were meaningless gestures. Glad you cleared that up.

Read those laws,
they clearly refer to application of sovereignty.

 

[toomuchtime_]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ rylah,, et al,

BLUF: As the Administrative Power - exercising full Israeli civil and security control over the territory under discussion, the Netanyahu's Government can snap its fingers if wants and declare sovereignty. But just because you can do something, does not mean you should do it without do consideration to alternative approaches.

NOTE:
The extension of authority over the Golan Height is a bit different.

(Ω) The Golan Heights was a direct capture of the sovereign territory of Syria. Whereas Judea and Samaria were taken under control in 1988 when the Hashemite Kingdom abandon the West Bank. The Disengagement from the West Bank was effective on 31 July 1988 when King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties. On 31 July 1988 the West Bank, in effect, the West Bank fell under one of the accepted legal methods of acquiring sovereignty over the territory. “Occupation” being legally an original means of peacefully acquiring sovereignty over the territory. (Terra Nullius)​

​

(Ω) Wherein, every other means of acquisition can be argued as faulty, except that of self-determination. That is usually done by direct voting, but one of the alternatives (beyond dispute) is by popular petition.​

Why without notice?
I think it's actually the purpose behind the gradual process, so that to make it visible for the rest of Arabs in Judea how it turns out.

(COMMENT)

Yeah, we call your idea a "fanfare" approach. Sometimes it works. But if you want to make it seamless, yet envious by other Arab Palestinians, change the landscape in very subtal ways (license Plates, easy access lanes at checkpoints, open highways previously closed to them, etc).

Aside from that, it is a very healthy thing to see for the Israeli society, it's a curing experience, and has been openly discussed in the framework of legislation.

(COMMENT)

Open discussion is a great idea. But nothing should be done that cheapens the opinion of the Judeans and Samarians this action concerns.

Yehoshua Bin Nun's 3 options - peace, move, fight.

(COMMENT)

In my opinion (outside observer) this is definitely an attitude that needs shit-canned. This is an approach that should not be even spoken of until every other means are exhausted.

(∑)
This is just one man's observations from afar. But as an old-school CI type, you want to minimize the potential for the breeding of internal security issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

Not quite accurate and not nearly detailed enough. Both the Golan and Judea and Samaria, as well as Gaza and Sinai were captured in 1967. Syria's claim to sovereignty over the Golan rests entirely on the map the French drew up after WWI, so unless you think the people of the ME should live according to the whims of former European colonial powers, Syria's claim to sovereignty over the Golan is weak. Similarly, Jordan's claim of sovereignty over Judea and Samaria was if anything even weaker.

"Donald Trump does not have a right to set Israeli borders"

Either this woman did not read the plan or she did not understand it.

If anyone on this planet read it, carefully, who would those be?
She is the grandmother of every Jewish village in Judea Samaria.

Listen, I know You intend well,
but this is already not about Trump or the US,

it's about how PM Netanyahu,
will be remembered in Jewish history.

From what she is saying, it is clear she either never read it or didn't understand it. Hopefully these rumors she is spreading will not prevent annexation from going forward.

What rumors?
She said that she builds allover Judea.
Never saw any divisions, never sees any divisions,
and will never recognize any that would prevent Jewish sovereignty in any part of Judea.

Do You know who are the women that initiated and stand behind the sovereignty process?

She is a very fine speaker, but once again she fails to see there would not be enough support within Israel to apply sovereignty to even 50% of area C without the expectation that the US would recognize it.

She misrepresents the Trump plan with respect to a Palestinian state, but the upside is, she is not part of the negotiating team, so it is likely the annexation of half of area C will proceed.

I think it's a false assumption.
For sovereignty in towns like Ma'ale Edumin,
for the Gush 'Atziyon area there's full wide consensus, independent of US support.

She is the representative of the Sovereignty Youth movement on the ground,
and behind her stands the leadership of the local councils - the people who live there and who initiated the whole process, to move beyond the discourse of the 2-state disaster.

Her goal is not negotiations,
but to establish facts on the ground and change the discourse.

Everyone already understands all of Judea is destined for Israel's sovereignty, inevitable,
even Arabs realize that, what's left for PM Netanyahu is to decide whether he sets young Israel on a collision course with the agreements he now discusses, or removes the obstacles.

People are tired of dividing the land.
We want only Israeli sovereignty - all else is trouble.

But the political reality is that before Trump proposed annexation, the serious talks within the government were not about annexation but about how much new building to allow within established settlements and how many outposts should be demolished.

I'm sure the air is purer when your head is in the clouds and you are sure you can see far into the future, but progress is made on the ground in tough political negotiations in which no one gets everything he or she wants. Whatever the settler leaders may say in public, they know that when they go to Jerusalem they have to haggle and bargain to get even a small part of what they want. She may be the leader of the Youth Sovereignty Movement, but Donald Trump is the leader of the sovereignty movement that will allow Israel to annex half of area C after more than a half century of being afraid to annex any part of it.

I don't get it, You seriously believe that it was the current US admin
that made application of sovereignty a central focus of Israeli political discourse?
Was PM Begin's application of sovereignty in the Golan function of Pres. Trump's approval?

2nd Sovereignty Conference 2012:

You talk about discussions but I am talking about facts on the ground. Begin was a remarkable man, but in the last 40 years nothing more has been annexed until Trump's plan is making it a reality.

On the ground?
You are the one basing the argument on discussions and signed papers,
while I'm trying to keep pointing to the people who establish those facts on the ground.

There's no need to annex anything really, even today the addresses of those villages and towns are registered under the Israeli civil administration, as anyone else. And the transportation ministry has been already on full integration project of new smart infrastructure specifically focusing on Judea Samaria, before any of this came about.

Someone is selling "lokshim" here by confusing people with the vocabulary.
It's all 100% independent Israeli move of any US position or capacity,
the support is instrumental, but not the definitive.

It's a move rooted on exclusively our sovereign decision,
and it's not in our national interests anymore to neither recognize the enemy,
nor accept any notions of obstructions to our national rights - read the Likud platform.

lol So now annexation is of no importance? Without it, the dream of a Palestinian state in all of Judea and Samaria will continue to percolate in the minds of the Palestinians and Europeans. Without annexation Israel will forever be dealing with building freezes outside of established settlements, however, with annexation there is no argument against building anywhere in the annexed area. The issue is annexation. Either you are for it or you are against it, and you now appear to be against it.

I have to disagree.
First we never annexed anything, because the the Mandate is the last binding international agreement, which allots Judea for the sovereignty of the Jewish nation,
and nothing supersedes it. We don't need to annex anything,
just apply Israeli law as in the Golan.

It is exactly the false notion of annexation and negotiations that feed into the minds of the Arabs and Europeans. It's no different if CHAZ was supported by Europeans, and instead of bringing law and order, we started talking about 'US annexation of CHAZ', then say You have to annex and negotiate, otherwise it feeds into the false dreams of criminals. And clearly that's the opposite of reality, what ends such dreams is bringing law and order, and having police on the ground instead of the army - not conceding into notions of negotiation.

The freezes only come when the US pressures Israel to make "gestures",
none of this is required with application of sovereignty.

With annexation You get into negotiation and freezes,
with application of sovereignty You get the same freezes, but without the political costs of feeding into self-defeating illusions of leveraged responsibility to be inherited for the next generation, which helps neither involved but the corrupt Pali leaders and the Left.

So you say the annexation of Jerusalem and the Golan were meaningless gestures. Glad you cleared that up.

Read those laws,
they clearly refer to application of sovereignty.

Read what laws? The Mandate was dissolved by the UNGA in 1948. Nothing remains of it.

 

[San Souci]

No such thing as a "Palistinian".

 

[rylah]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ rylah,, et al,

BLUF: As the Administrative Power - exercising full Israeli civil and security control over the territory under discussion, the Netanyahu's Government can snap its fingers if wants and declare sovereignty. But just because you can do something, does not mean you should do it without do consideration to alternative approaches.

NOTE:
The extension of authority over the Golan Height is a bit different.

(Ω) The Golan Heights was a direct capture of the sovereign territory of Syria. Whereas Judea and Samaria were taken under control in 1988 when the Hashemite Kingdom abandon the West Bank. The Disengagement from the West Bank was effective on 31 July 1988 when King Hussein announced the severance of all administrative and legal ties. On 31 July 1988 the West Bank, in effect, the West Bank fell under one of the accepted legal methods of acquiring sovereignty over the territory. “Occupation” being legally an original means of peacefully acquiring sovereignty over the territory. (Terra Nullius)​

​

(Ω) Wherein, every other means of acquisition can be argued as faulty, except that of self-determination. That is usually done by direct voting, but one of the alternatives (beyond dispute) is by popular petition.​

Ceding the Golan to Syria was in violation of article 5 and article 27 of the Mandate.
The private owner of these lands inherited the deed to the state of Israel, as far as north including the Houran area. Not that private ownership plays difference in national rights,
but it definitely extends problem mentioned above.

Why without notice?
I think it's actually the purpose behind the gradual process, so that to make it visible for the rest of Arabs in Judea how it turns out.

(COMMENT)

Yeah, we call your idea a "fanfare" approach. Sometimes it works. But if you want to make it seamless, yet envious by other Arab Palestinians, change the landscape in very subtal ways (license Plates, easy access lanes at checkpoints, open highways previously closed to them, etc).

Registration is a basic aspect of sovereignty.
The villages in Judea that come under Israeli sovereignty,
become fully assimilated into the common infrastructure, with full access,
and that's why in the current stage only minor Arab population centers are considered.

As for licence plates, those are already available for all,
currently it's cheaper to purchase and/or register through PA and Jordan.

Many of these can't be legalized for coming from the black market.
So it's somehow specifically a touchy subject someone will have to solve.

Anyway, Israeli plated will go by default with any new purchased vehicle.
New ones also usually come from workplaces in various industry,
which will be one of main focuses of this "fanfare" approach.

Aside from that, it is a very healthy thing to see for the Israeli society, it's a curing experience, and has been openly discussed in the framework of legislation.

(COMMENT)

Open discussion is a great idea. But nothing should be done that cheapens the opinion of the Judeans and Samarians this action concerns.

Yes exactly, thank You for pointing that out.
They are the people who sacrificed and invested the most to make this happen,
the ones to live there and be he core anchor of the economic and social development.

B"h Judeans are now represented both in coalition and opposition
I'm very glad to hear them making their voice clearly heard.

Yehoshua Bin Nun's 3 options - peace, move, fight.

(COMMENT)

In my opinion (outside observer) this is definitely an attitude that needs shit-canned. This is an approach that should not be even spoken of until every other means are exhausted.

(∑)
This is just one man's observations from afar. But as an old-school CI type, you want to minimize the potential for the breeding of internal security issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

Aren't other means exhausted, after a 100 years?
What are the other means in such situations?

I see this this is mere constitution of a fact, demonstrated by summery of experience.

Remember how I pointed how the word 'pace' place an ironic game in Arabic?
Well, that's the same inevitable reality when one wants to speak in the language of the enemy, not immigrate him necessarily, but to cause a psychological chain of response, i.e in this case the Arab national aspiration, power and ideology has to be demonstratively submitted.

When they talk about 'salam' it means submission, and it's not hiddem much when the word is not used, it's a typical attitude to a non-Muslim/Arab society - and that's why exactly with them this should be the message. The submission doesn't have to be like the Muslim idea of "salam" submission, of forced conversion and dhimmi tax, rather a path to legal assimilation into a more advanced society that provides more freedom and equality, without the need to essentially change anything about one's identity but the nation aspiration to ever establish an Arab, or any other that the Jewish state in the land of Israel.

They have to be defeated.

 

[rylah]

Read what laws? The Mandate was dissolved by the UNGA in 1948. Nothing remains of it.

Not superseded.

Article 80 of The UN Charter.
Article 70.1.b of the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties.

You said Jerusalem and Golan, read the sovereignty bills of Eshkol and Begin.

 

[rylah]

Miri Mesikah - Havah (Eve)

Havah Ya' Havah what a sweet mistake
You have let yourself know
You have lost everything Ya' Havah
For one small bite
So perfect the Garden
Back to back
You didn't see the face
And the silence Ya' Havah

Makes You a noise inside
You wan't to know

What is there to know?
Tell me what is there to know Havah
To know - what is there?

Havah Ya' Havah You were told, warned, scared
But You don't hear
You don't care what is said
So go out of the Garden
You are Adam Ya' Havah
All for all a human
And what is eternal life
In front of one perfect bite!

Now You know
You've caught the rhythm
You will go to the store and give birth in sorrow
You know

Havah Ya' Havah
You had everything Ya' Havah
Adam, yard, garden
The best is not to know
Enough to believe!
And You don't lack faith
But You are not blind
And what does the light worth
If it's not You who is choosing

Now You know...

 

[rylah]

Eden - Better (Prod. by Johnny Goldstein)

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ toomuchtime_ et al,

BLUF: The reality of any given political situation on the ground, is exactly that "the reality" or what is "real." Notwithstanding any international law - or any treaty - or binding resolution - or agreement, whatever entity is, at the time, exercising total control as the highest authority → holds the "sovereignty."

Not quite accurate and not nearly detailed enough. Both the Golan and Judea and Samaria, as well as Gaza and Sinai were captured in 1967. Syria's claim to sovereignty over the Golan rests entirely on the map the French drew up after WWI, so unless you think the people of the ME should live according to the whims of former European colonial powers, Syria's claim to sovereignty over the Golan is weak. Similarly, Jordan's claim of sovereignty over Judea and Samaria was if anything even weaker.

(COMMENT)

You can argue the legality (what is of evidentiary value), you can argue the right of claim (historical holding, theft, fraud, coercive assignment, etc) and you can argue what various politically correct positions held through the courts, political institutions or tribunals (declaring that illegal and not to be recognized); it does not matter. IF entity "X" is the highest authority over a self-governing territory (executive, legislative and judicial) - THEN by definition, entity "X" → holds the "sovereignty" over that territory.

Is this interpretation strange? (RHETORICAL) NO! Why? Because for nearly a century, the standard has been that the political existence of the state is independent of recognition by the other states. No other state has to recognize it and no other authority can command it. Otherwise, it would not be a sovereign self-governing institution.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Picaro]

Israelis should take advantage of the current Sunni-Shia civil war and go ahead and settle as much as they can; we know it would be years before they would ever trust Iran again, so make good use of the rift while they can.

 

[ESay]

The World Continues to Try and Curse the Jews and Israel, but it Always Fails

Every nation in history has been affected by the way it treated the Jews.
The evidence is endless and clear.

This week’s Torah portion is Balak (Numbers 22:2-25:9), and in it we read how Balak, the evil King of Moav, hired the evil prophet/wizard Balaam to curse the Jews. Balaam was hesitant to take on the job as God appeared to him several times, telling him, “You must not curse that people, for they are blessed.”

After much persistence, God allowed Balaam to take the job, as long as he would only pronounce upon the Jews what God would put in his mouth, as it says, “Go with the men. But you must say nothing except what I tell you.”

Nevertheless, Balaam made good efforts to try and curse the Jews, but he failed each time. Indeed, he eventually admits, “How can I curse whom God has not cursed? . . . Who can count the dust of Jacob, number the “dust-cloud” of Israel? May my fate be like theirs!”



Balaam tried and tried, but ultimately failed. “When He blesses, I cannot reverse it. The Lord their God is with them.” Balak then fired Balaam…he was useless!

Many readers might realize that the story of Balaam is reminiscent of Genesis 12:3. “I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.” The world continues to try and curse the Jews. But it always backfires. We have it “in writing” from God that it always will!

Genesis 12:3 has been tried, tested, and retested year after year for thousands of years. The ending is always the same. The Torah announces to the world, “Bless Israel and the Jewish people and you will be blessed. Curse Israel and the Jewish people and you will be cursed.” There’s no running from it.

Harry Truman’s presidential win is widely attributed to Genesis 12:3. Apparently Truman was responsible –against the advice of Secretary of State General George C. Marshall and US Ambassador to the United Nations Warren Austin – for the US recognizing the independence of the State of Israel a mere 11 minutes after it was announced. Truman’s efforts on behalf of Israel and the Jewish people are remembered and appreciated to this day. Truman was a man of the Bible, a man of faith.

The Examples Are Endless
Let’s look at Genesis 12:3 throughout history. The examples are endless.

Back in the Bible, when Abimelech “took” Sarah for his pleasures, God turned against him. But once he returned Sarah to Abraham, he was blessed.

Pharaoh was warned with 10 plagues to let the Jews go. He didn’t make the right decisions. It didn’t end well for him.

The Amalekites were the first nation to attack the Jewish people after the Exodus from Egypt. It didn’t end well for them either. Do YOU know any Amalekites today? I sure don’t.

Rahab saved the lives of her two Jewish guests in Jericho. She was the only one to survive the conquest of Jericho.

Ruth’s “Your people will be my people and your God my God” served her quite well.

Stalin, a horrible anti-Semite, suffered a stroke on February 28, 1953. That day was the Jewish holiday of Purim, which commemorates the salvation of the Jewish people in ancient Iran from Haman’s plot to destroy the Jewish people. Stalin was the Haman of his time.

Let’s talk about Britain. Under the leadership of the Jewish Benjamin Disraeli (1804 – 1881), England thrived. It was during the 19th and 20th centuries that Britain prospered and even dominated world trade. And then in 1917 the British Foreign Office famously announced: “His Majesty’s Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.” This became known as the Balfour declaration. The 1920 San Remo Peace Conference gave Britain a ‘Mandate for Palestine’ based upon the Balfour Declaration and this was formalized in 1922 by the League of Nations.” The primary purpose of the Mandate was to grant political rights in Palestine to the Jewish people.

But Britain reneged on the Jews. The Peel and Woodhead commissions of 1937/38 recommended partitioning Palestine into a small Jewish state and a large Arab state – against the promises and intentions of the Mandate. And then there was the British White Paper of 1939, which essentially blocked Jewish immigration to Palestine. These policies repudiated the Balfour Declaration and Britain’s commitments when the Jewish people needed it most.

But there’s more. The “Exodus” ship of July 1947 with over 4000 Jews, mostly Holocaust survivors, was attacked and seized by the British Navy as it prepared to dock in Palestine. The passengers were rounded upon and forcibly put on ship headed back to Europe.

Could it be that Britain was a recipient of “those who curse you will be cursed” for her treatment of the Jews? It sure looks that way! Let’s see.

Britain’s status began to decline quickly, especially after she handed over the mandate on Palestine to the League of Nations. For example, Britain used to have the most enviable navy in the world, with over 800 destroyers in 1945. But by 1950, just five years later, the navy was reduced to 250 destroyers and continued to decline.

Britain used to control 25 percent of the planet, but the number of people under British rule went from 700 million in 1945 to less than five million in 1965. Britain’s influence declined big time. The once famous saying “The sun never sets on the British empire” is little more than a joke nowadays.

Donald Trump and Israel
Let’s take a look at one of Israel’s best friends in the world today: Donald J. Trump.

In May 2017, President Trump, on the advice of his advisers, delayed the planned move of the US embassy in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. The months that followed were very turbulent times for Trump and his presidency. Indeed, after the Charlottesville fiasco, there was question whether he would even serve out his term.

But then he recognized Jerusalem on December 6, 2017. Two weeks later he signed his tax cuts into law with a razor-thin win of 51-48. These cuts led to one of the strongest economies America has ever experienced,with unemployment down to 3.6 percent. God was clearly blessing America.

Every nation in history has been affected by the way it treated the Jews. The evidence is endless and clear. No, Israel is not perfect. The Jews are not perfect. But the world must realize that they should align themselves with God and the Jews, and they too will be blessed!

The World Continues to Try and Curse the Jews and Israel, but it Always Fails | United with Israel

Every nation in history has been affected by the way it treated the Jews. The evidence is endless and clear.

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Well, it also will be fair to say that the 20th century was the end of all colonial empires. And the ground for British economic and military might was laid long before Disraeli.

The Zohar mentions the end of the 18th century, the 7th decade if I remember correctly,
as being the age of the "opening of the gates of Wisdom", having directly to do with preparing the world for Israel's redemption. In the wider perspective, that's also about the time when the animus of Jews among the nations also grew bigger and more powerful - instead of being powerless and humiliated, we all of a sudden became the strongest political-economic-power to take the world, in any variety of conspiracy theories one likes.

This shift in the view of the Jewish diaspora aligned with a shift in the state of the Jewish nation as a whole ,and diaspora specifically. Many things happened at the time, and it does seem many Jews were instrumental in major revolutionary developments at the time and later, these outbursts of energy from the ghettos, after Jews were allowed out,
were a direct expression to what the Zohar mentions.

That's right. The last stages of the Haskalah, which had been going on for several decades already. The ideas of the Enlightenment epoch made it possible for the Jews in Europe to open themselves for the outside world, adopt the ideas of reformation while preserving their cultural and religious identity.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The reality of any given political situation on the ground, is exactly that "the reality" or what is "real." Notwithstanding any international law - or any treaty - or binding resolution - or agreement, whatever entity is, at the time, exercising total control as the highest authority → holds the "sovereignty."

The people with the guns have all the rights?

That is sooooo 19th century.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I'm so sorry that - your comment about "guns" was all took away from that commentary.

The reality of any given political situation on the ground, is exactly that "the reality" or what is "real." Notwithstanding any international law - or any treaty - or binding resolution - or agreement, whatever entity is, at the time, exercising total control as the highest authority → holds the "sovereignty."

The people with the guns have all the rights?

That is sooooo 19th century.

(COMMENT)

I did not mention "guns" at all.

If the Arab Palestinians had been the entity that exercised authority, then they (by definition) were the sovereign. You don't need an army to exercise authority. There are countries much smaller than the West Bank that have more influence in their region and have exercised sovereign authority for more than a century.

◈ The West Bank ≈ 2264 sq km (5861 sq mi)​

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✦ Monaco three-quarters of an sq mile (2 sq km)​

✦ Nauru 8 sq mi (20 sq km)​

✦ San Marino 61 sq km (24 sq mi)​

✦ Maldives 298 sq km (115 sq mi)​

✦ Malta 316 sq km (122 sq mi)​

There are more than 2 dozen independent and self-governing nations that are many times smaller than the West Bank. And they maintain sovereign control with nothing more than the Palace Guard and the equivalent of a few gendarmerie officers. Malta, the largest I've mentioned, has one light brigade, about a dozen watercraft, and several helicopters. The Palestinian Authority Security Forces (PASF) is 60,000 strong. The PASF is almost 1 member per every 50 - 60 people. (To put this into perspective, the largest Police Department in America is the NYPD 36 thousand strong. The ratio of officers to citizens is ≈ 1:220 4 times the smaller than the PASF)

Your premise that Sovereignty (the exercise of authority thereof) is maintained by military or other arms is just plain wrong.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Mindful]

I want to talk about Fauda.

Will anyone talk about it with me?

 

[P F Tinmore]

If the Arab Palestinians had been the entity that exercised authority, then they (by definition) were the sovereign.

How can you do that with a gun in your face?

 

[P F Tinmore]

◈ The West Bank ≈ 2264 sq km (5861 sq mi)₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪✦ Monaco three-quarters of an sq mile (2 sq km)✦ Nauru 8 sq mi (20 sq km)✦ San Marino 61 sq km (24 sq mi)✦ Maldives 298 sq km (115 sq mi)✦ Malta 316 sq km (122 sq mi)

How many of those are subject to foreign colonialism?

 

[Mindful]

If the Arab Palestinians had been the entity that exercised authority, then they (by definition) were the sovereign.

How can you do that with a gun in your face?

They seem to be able to medically implant suicide bombs.

 

[P F Tinmore]

If the Arab Palestinians had been the entity that exercised authority, then they (by definition) were the sovereign.

How can you do that with a gun in your face?

They seem to be able to medically implant suicide bombs.

Old news. You need to update your propaganda.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: There is no country (not dominated by a terrorist faction) which has the adopted policy that that armed struggle is the only means of liberation. The Arab Palestinians are unique in that way.

If the Arab Palestinians had been the entity that exercised authority, then they (by definition) were the sovereign.

How can you do that with a gun in your face?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians consistently rejected opportunities for peace and offers of self-government. Why! Because, in their own words:

The Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to reaffirm here that the Arabs of Palestine cannot recognize the Balfour Declaration, the Mandate of Palestine or any situation arising or derived therefrom. They consider that imposing international alien immigrants on their country by force is nothing but an act of aggression and invasion, whether made by Jews themselves, through Great Britain, or by the United Nations. The Arab Higher Committee Delegation therefore expects that the duty of the United Nations is to remove the said aggression and stop that invasion. The creation of any Jewish state in an Arab territory is more than invasion or aggression, it is something with no precedent in history. It is en act of wiping out the existence of an Arab country, violating its integrity, subjecting its land and people to foreign Jewish domination. “

◈ The West Bank ≈ 2264 sq km (5861 sq mi)​

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✦ Monaco three-quarters of an sq mile (2 sq km)​

✦ Nauru 8 sq mi (20 sq km)​

✦ San Marino 61 sq km (24 sq mi)​

✦ Maldives 298 sq km (115 sq mi)​

✦ Malta 316 sq km (122 sq mi)​

How many of those are subject to foreign colonialism?

(COMMENT)

NONE! They ALL maintain their own independent sovereignty over their respective territories, some of which date back toa time before the Treaty of Westphalia. None of them... I gave this list just recently when someone brought up the issue of colonialism. There is a complete list of Non-Self-Governing Territories subject to surveillance by the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples (also known as the "Special Committee on Decolonization" or the "C-24"). None of the ones I've mentioned are on the list. Like I've said, are only four (4) Colonial Powers remaining in the world. And every concerned nation knows exactly what holdings (all 17 of them) fall under the Administration of one of those Colonial Powers. As you can tell, there are more members on C-24 then there are territories subject to Chapter XI of the Charter of the United Nations.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Picaro]

I want to talk about Fauda.

Will anyone talk about it with me?

What do you want to say about it? Sounds like a cool premise for a TV show to me, kind of an Israeli version of the old Tour Of Duty series here in the U.S. Is the acting any good?