White House Confirms It's Purging Disloyal Employees 'From the Bowels of the Federal Government

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

I saw one of those “disloyal” employees on TV this morning.

Trump claimed a Coronavirus vaccine would be available in three months, worst case, a year.

The Director of NIH was sitting at the same table and immediately spoke up and said it would take a year to a year and a half to release a vaccine.

Should such “disloyalty” get him fired?

Yes. It should.

But only if he does have vaccine in 3 months, but waited a year just to piss off Trump.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

Since every President in U.S. history has rid his Adminsitration of employees who work, against him, then this OP and thread title make absolutely no sense, whatsoever, and they prove that you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Trump...as usual...conflates loyalty to the country (or the office of the president) with loyalty to him, personally. Perhaps that should be fealty.

Can't recall this sort of things happening before. I wonder if this means combing Facebook and private lives?


White House Confirms It's Purging Disloyal Employees 'From the Bowels of the Federal Government'

The White House this week confirmed it is combing through federal agencies to identify employees not sufficiently loyal to President Trump to facilitate their ouster, sparking concerns the administration could run afoul of long-established civil service laws.

The administration is examining employees throughout the government to find anyone taking action officials decide represents an effort to undermine Trump, White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said on Fox News Monday. Gidley did not specifically mention career employees, who are statutorily protected against political retaliation, but did note the “millions” of individuals agencies employ. By contrast, there are only about 4,000 political appointees in government.

“It’s not a secret that we want people in positions that work with this president, not against him, and too often we have people in this government—I mean the federal government is massive, with millions of people—and there are a lot people out there taking action against this president and when we find them we will take appropriate action,” Gidley said.

His comments followed reports in Axios that the administration maintains “deep state” hit lists of employees to fire and the president has tasked the head of the Presidential Personnel Office, Johnny McEntee, to purge “bad people” who are not loyal to him. The latter report mentioned only political appointees, who serve at the pleasure of the president and can be dismissed at will, but Gidley’s comments this week appeared to go further.

“Time and time again we see in the media reports from people in the bowels of the federal government working against this president,” he said.

Gidley added that unelected federal workers were pushing “their own selfish political agenda” rather than advancing and executing Trump’s.

The latest comments do not mark the first time the Trump administration has stretched the limits of what is allowable under civil service protections. The number of federal employees proving their agencies took prohibited personnel practices against them reached an all-time high in Trump’s first year in office, according to the Office of Special Counsel. The State Department’s inspector general released two reports this year finding that the department illegally engaged in the political targeting of career employees. Federal law prohibits agencies from discriminating against any employee on the basis of political affiliation, or for any federal official to “coerce any applicant or employee to engage in political activity, or to retaliate against such individuals based on partisan politics.”

What we learned from witnesses in the Dem's impeachment hoax is that leaving the Dem's anti-Trump employees working in the Trump Admin, caused those employees to lose their minds, as they began to hallucinate that the U.S. President should obey them plus their thoughts ---and not the other way around.

Trump is free to fire his political appointees

Even the President must comply with Civil Service Laws.

You can and you should get, fired, when going to work being insubordinate daily just because you don't like your boss.

Civil Service Laws put the burden of proof on the accuser. It takes more than conspiracy theories to fire someone.
Telling the truth is not a fireable offense.

Telling the truth about, Biden, got Trump impeached.

 

[rightwinger]

Since every President in U.S. history has rid his Adminsitration of employees who work, against him, then this OP and thread title make absolutely no sense, whatsoever, and they prove that you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Trump...as usual...conflates loyalty to the country (or the office of the president) with loyalty to him, personally. Perhaps that should be fealty.

Can't recall this sort of things happening before. I wonder if this means combing Facebook and private lives?


White House Confirms It's Purging Disloyal Employees 'From the Bowels of the Federal Government'

The White House this week confirmed it is combing through federal agencies to identify employees not sufficiently loyal to President Trump to facilitate their ouster, sparking concerns the administration could run afoul of long-established civil service laws.

The administration is examining employees throughout the government to find anyone taking action officials decide represents an effort to undermine Trump, White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said on Fox News Monday. Gidley did not specifically mention career employees, who are statutorily protected against political retaliation, but did note the “millions” of individuals agencies employ. By contrast, there are only about 4,000 political appointees in government.

“It’s not a secret that we want people in positions that work with this president, not against him, and too often we have people in this government—I mean the federal government is massive, with millions of people—and there are a lot people out there taking action against this president and when we find them we will take appropriate action,” Gidley said.

His comments followed reports in Axios that the administration maintains “deep state” hit lists of employees to fire and the president has tasked the head of the Presidential Personnel Office, Johnny McEntee, to purge “bad people” who are not loyal to him. The latter report mentioned only political appointees, who serve at the pleasure of the president and can be dismissed at will, but Gidley’s comments this week appeared to go further.

“Time and time again we see in the media reports from people in the bowels of the federal government working against this president,” he said.

Gidley added that unelected federal workers were pushing “their own selfish political agenda” rather than advancing and executing Trump’s.

The latest comments do not mark the first time the Trump administration has stretched the limits of what is allowable under civil service protections. The number of federal employees proving their agencies took prohibited personnel practices against them reached an all-time high in Trump’s first year in office, according to the Office of Special Counsel. The State Department’s inspector general released two reports this year finding that the department illegally engaged in the political targeting of career employees. Federal law prohibits agencies from discriminating against any employee on the basis of political affiliation, or for any federal official to “coerce any applicant or employee to engage in political activity, or to retaliate against such individuals based on partisan politics.”

What we learned from witnesses in the Dem's impeachment hoax is that leaving the Dem's anti-Trump employees working in the Trump Admin, caused those employees to lose their minds, as they began to hallucinate that the U.S. President should obey them plus their thoughts ---and not the other way around.

Trump is free to fire his political appointees

Even the President must comply with Civil Service Laws.

You can and you should get, fired, when going to work being insubordinate daily just because you don't like your boss.

Civil Service Laws put the burden of proof on the accuser. It takes more than conspiracy theories to fire someone.
Telling the truth is not a fireable offense.

Telling the truth about, Biden, got Trump impeached.

Then why hasn’t Biden been indicted?

 

[easyt65]

Telling the truth about, Biden, got Trump impeached.

Beating Obama and Hillary got Trump Impeached...

 

[Coyote]

Since every President in U.S. history has rid his Adminsitration of employees who work, against him, then this OP and thread title make absolutely no sense, whatsoever, and they prove that you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Trump...as usual...conflates loyalty to the country (or the office of the president) with loyalty to him, personally. Perhaps that should be fealty.

Can't recall this sort of things happening before. I wonder if this means combing Facebook and private lives?


White House Confirms It's Purging Disloyal Employees 'From the Bowels of the Federal Government'

The White House this week confirmed it is combing through federal agencies to identify employees not sufficiently loyal to President Trump to facilitate their ouster, sparking concerns the administration could run afoul of long-established civil service laws.

The administration is examining employees throughout the government to find anyone taking action officials decide represents an effort to undermine Trump, White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said on Fox News Monday. Gidley did not specifically mention career employees, who are statutorily protected against political retaliation, but did note the “millions” of individuals agencies employ. By contrast, there are only about 4,000 political appointees in government.

“It’s not a secret that we want people in positions that work with this president, not against him, and too often we have people in this government—I mean the federal government is massive, with millions of people—and there are a lot people out there taking action against this president and when we find them we will take appropriate action,” Gidley said.

His comments followed reports in Axios that the administration maintains “deep state” hit lists of employees to fire and the president has tasked the head of the Presidential Personnel Office, Johnny McEntee, to purge “bad people” who are not loyal to him. The latter report mentioned only political appointees, who serve at the pleasure of the president and can be dismissed at will, but Gidley’s comments this week appeared to go further.

“Time and time again we see in the media reports from people in the bowels of the federal government working against this president,” he said.

Gidley added that unelected federal workers were pushing “their own selfish political agenda” rather than advancing and executing Trump’s.

The latest comments do not mark the first time the Trump administration has stretched the limits of what is allowable under civil service protections. The number of federal employees proving their agencies took prohibited personnel practices against them reached an all-time high in Trump’s first year in office, according to the Office of Special Counsel. The State Department’s inspector general released two reports this year finding that the department illegally engaged in the political targeting of career employees. Federal law prohibits agencies from discriminating against any employee on the basis of political affiliation, or for any federal official to “coerce any applicant or employee to engage in political activity, or to retaliate against such individuals based on partisan politics.”

What we learned from witnesses in the Dem's impeachment hoax is that leaving the Dem's anti-Trump employees working in the Trump Admin, caused those employees to lose their minds, as they began to hallucinate that the U.S. President should obey them plus their thoughts ---and not the other way around.

Trump is free to fire his political appointees

Even the President must comply with Civil Service Laws.

You can and you should get, fired, when going to work being insubordinate daily just because you don't like your boss.

Civil Service Laws put the burden of proof on the accuser. It takes more than conspiracy theories to fire someone.
Telling the truth is not a fireable offense.

Telling the truth about, Biden, got Trump impeached.

Conspiracy theories are not proof. That is why have the legal system we do, so wannabe dictators can't abuse their power.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

...

Telling the truth about, Biden, got Trump impeached.

Then why hasn’t Biden been indicted?

Same reason that Prosecutor got fired, in 2015, for asking the Obama Admin about Biden's corrupt actions in Ukraine.

Same reason why Trump got, impeached, for exposing Biden's Ukraine corruption.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

Conspiracy theories are not proof. That is why have the legal system we do, so wannabe dictators can't abuse their power.

Right. And also conspiracy theories are not, applicable, wherever the truth and the facts validate real life events.

Real Life Event: Joe Biden bragged about getting an Ukraine prosecutor, fired, back in 2015 when he tried to expose Biden family's corruption at Burisma.

Real Life Event: Burisma is factually one of the most corrupt corps in Ukraine history, yet Hunter Biden took a job there doing something he had no experience in whatsoever ---and he was paid $50K/month for many months.

Real Life Event: Our Ukraine foreign policy does NOT prohibit a U.S. President from exposing corruption that is done by his political opponent ---but Trump got impeached for doing so.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The federal government has three branches, the executive, the legislative, the judicial.

The President is the elected leader of the executive branch.

People who work in the executive branch serve the President, and if they cannot do that, they should seek alternative employment.

Not exactly. If they are political appointees then yes, they serve at the pleasure of the president. Otherwise - they serve their country, their agency, or the office of the president. If they are not political appointees they are protected by civil service laws from political retaliation.

Trump is going to shift people around to have loyalists that wont leak a gazzillion lies to the press and make him waste time answering to horse crap like the last time with the Ukrainian BS.

He has every right to do this.

 

[Olde Europe]

Conspiracy theories are not proof. That is why have the legal system we do, so wannabe dictators can't abuse their power.

Right. And also conspiracy theories are not, applicable, wherever the truth and the facts validate real life events.

Real Life Event: Joe Biden bragged about getting an Ukraine prosecutor, fired, back in 2015 when he tried to expose Biden family's corruption at Burisma.

Real Life Event: Burisma is factually one of the most corrupt corps in Ukraine history, yet Hunter Biden took a job there doing something he had no experience in whatsoever ---and he was paid $50K/month for many months.

Real Life Event: Our Ukraine foreign policy does NOT prohibit a U.S. President from exposing corruption that is done by his political opponent ---but Trump got impeached for doing so.

...

Telling the truth about, Biden, got Trump impeached.

Then why hasn’t Biden been indicted?

Same reason that Prosecutor got fired, in 2015, for asking the Obama Admin about Biden's corrupt actions in Ukraine.

Same reason why Trump got, impeached, for exposing Biden's Ukraine corruption.

The federal government has three branches, the executive, the legislative, the judicial.

The President is the elected leader of the executive branch.

People who work in the executive branch serve the President, and if they cannot do that, they should seek alternative employment.

Not exactly. If they are political appointees then yes, they serve at the pleasure of the president. Otherwise - they serve their country, their agency, or the office of the president. If they are not political appointees they are protected by civil service laws from political retaliation.

Trump is going to shift people around to have loyalists that wont leak a gazzillion lies to the press and make him waste time answering to horse crap like the last time with the Ukrainian BS.

He has every right to do this.

Don't know, Coyote, whether your research is still on, but these two are putting the Cult in Trump Cult. They are perfectly ineducable, impervious to facts. One can't even get the year of the Shokin firing right and is wrong on everything else, the other believes promulgating Trump's self-serving narrative makes him a winner. They, seemingly intelligent, are also a sign of things to come.

Having resolutely decided that Trump's carefully crafted alternate "reality" is their habitat, everything at deviance from it is immediately recognized as a "gazzillion lies". You can easily find it all - the smears and slander to come, the preemptive victimization of the Dear Leader, along with the justification of the Stalinist purge to come: "He has every right to do this." Not only do the facts bend to the Fuehrer's will, so does the law.

Gruesome.

 

[iceberg]

Since every President in U.S. history has rid his Adminsitration of employees who work, against him, then this OP and thread title make absolutely no sense, whatsoever, and they prove that you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

What we learned from witnesses in the Dem's impeachment hoax is that leaving the Dem's anti-Trump employees working in the Trump Admin, caused those employees to lose their minds, as they began to hallucinate that the U.S. President should obey them plus their thoughts ---and not the other way around.

Trump is free to fire his political appointees

Even the President must comply with Civil Service Laws.

You can and you should get, fired, when going to work being insubordinate daily just because you don't like your boss.

Civil Service Laws put the burden of proof on the accuser. It takes more than conspiracy theories to fire someone.
Telling the truth is not a fireable offense.

Telling the truth about, Biden, got Trump impeached.

Conspiracy theories are not proof. That is why have the legal system we do, so wannabe dictators can't abuse their power.

like spy on congress?
run guns to Mexico?

 

[rightwinger]

...

Telling the truth about, Biden, got Trump impeached.

Then why hasn’t Biden been indicted?

Same reason that Prosecutor got fired, in 2015, for asking the Obama Admin about Biden's corrupt actions in Ukraine.

Same reason why Trump got, impeached, for exposing Biden's Ukraine corruption.

Trump controls the Justice Department and he is afraid of Biden

 

[rightwinger]

Trump says proudly that he will have a vaccine for Coronavirus in three months

His “disloyal” director of NIH says it will take a year to a year and a half.


Does he get fired for contradicting Trump policy?

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

Conspiracy theories are not proof. That is why have the legal system we do, so wannabe dictators can't abuse their power.

Don't know, Coyote, whether your research is still on, but Olde Europe is putting the Deceit in the Dem's Dishonesty Culture. He is a perfectly dishonest, revisionist of history's facts. He even whines as if the year Biden got the prosecutor, fired, did not really happen ---if you don't say the year he feels you should say! Yes, and he is wrong on everything else. lol.

He believes promulgating Dem's self-serving narrative makes them winners. He, seemingly deceitful, is also a sign of more dishonesty to come: Having resolutely decided that the Dem's carefully crafted alternate "reality" is their, habitat, everything at deviance from it is immediately recognized as a "gazzillion lies".

You can easily find it all ---their false docx filed in FISA Court to get Mueller's failed witchhunt and then impeaching Trump for exposing Biden's Ukraine corruption--- are the preemptive victimization of the Dem party, along with the justification of the Satanic purge to come: "Trump tried to ruin the Establishment ---where Biden rules!"

Not only do the facts expose Dem's deceit, but so do the laws ---as we all saw during the U.S. Senate trial when Trump was acquitted.

Gruesome.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

Trump says proudly that he will have a vaccine for Coronavirus in three months

His “disloyal” director of NIH says it will take a year to a year and a half.


Does he get fired for contradicting Trump policy?

If NIH Director has vaccine long before a, year, but procrastinates releasing it to the public so to make Trump look bad ---then yes, he should be fired and sent to prison!

 

[rightwinger]

Trump says proudly that he will have a vaccine for Coronavirus in three months

His “disloyal” director of NIH says it will take a year to a year and a half.


Does he get fired for contradicting Trump policy?

If NIH Director has vaccine long before a, year, but procrastinates releasing it to the public so to make Trump look bad ---then yes, he should be fired and sent to prison!

Very true

Let’s see if he gets fired before that
How dare he tell us the truth when Trump says he has it under control?

 

[Olde Europe]

Trump says proudly that he will have a vaccine for Coronavirus in three months

His “disloyal” director of NIH says it will take a year to a year and a half.


Does he get fired for contradicting Trump policy?

Yeah, gotcha!

The problem is, they may well both be right - while talking about vastly different things. There may be a "vaccine" in three months, or six. Demonstrating what they have developed is both efficient and safe for humans may well take another nine+ months. In case that's successful, the "real" vaccine may start to be produced, provided the capacity will have been built up by then. Things are complicated, and, reportedly, folks have long given up on bothering the Orange Buffoon with details or nuance. Maybe if they named the resulting vaccine "Trump Crown", or something, they might get him to listen more than 20 seconds, or even read a page. Provided, that is, they weren't purged by then...

Elections, they say, have consequences.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

Trump says proudly that he will have a vaccine for Coronavirus in three months

His “disloyal” director of NIH says it will take a year to a year and a half.


Does he get fired for contradicting Trump policy?

If NIH Director has vaccine long before a, year, but procrastinates releasing it to the public so to make Trump look bad ---then yes, he should be fired and sent to prison!

Very true

Let’s see if he gets fired before that
How dare he tell us the truth when Trump says he has it under control?

No pal. We already saw that scene/Dem's deceitful spin on, reality, whether it be Russia collusion or Biden's Ukraine corruption or Partisan impeachment ---and now, politicizing a horrid disease sweeping the planet.

 

[Olde Europe]

Don't know, Coyote, whether your research is still on, but Olde Europe is putting the Deceit in the Dem's Dishonesty Culture. He is a perfectly dishonest, revisionist of history's facts. He even whines as if the year Biden got the prosecutor, fired, did not really happen ---if you don't say the year he feels you should say! Yes, and he is wrong on everything else. lol.

He believes promulgating Dem's self-serving narrative makes them winners. He, seemingly deceitful, is also a sign of more dishonesty to come: Having resolutely decided that the Dem's carefully crafted alternate "reality" is their, habitat, everything at deviance from it is immediately recognized as a "gazzillion lies".

You can easily find it all ---their false docx filed in FISA Court to get Mueller's failed witchhunt and then impeaching Trump for exposing Biden's Ukraine corruption--- are the preemptive victimization of the Dem party, along with the justification of the Satanic purge to come: "Trump tried to ruin the Establishment ---where Biden rules!"

Not only do the facts expose Dem's deceit, but so do the laws ---as we all saw during the U.S. Senate trial when Trump was acquitted.

Gruesome.

If anyone thought Trumpletons' creativity extended beyond "Nuh, you are!", or their ingenuity exceeds stealing the truth told about them and turning it around... think again.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

Don't know, Coyote, whether your research is still on, but Olde Europe is putting the Deceit in the Dem's Dishonesty Culture. He is a perfectly dishonest, revisionist of history's facts. He even whines as if the year Biden got the prosecutor, fired, did not really happen ---if you don't say the year he feels you should say! Yes, and he is wrong on everything else. lol.

He believes promulgating Dem's self-serving narrative makes them winners. He, seemingly deceitful, is also a sign of more dishonesty to come: Having resolutely decided that the Dem's carefully crafted alternate "reality" is their, habitat, everything at deviance from it is immediately recognized as a "gazzillion lies".

You can easily find it all ---their false docx filed in FISA Court to get Mueller's failed witchhunt and then impeaching Trump for exposing Biden's Ukraine corruption--- are the preemptive victimization of the Dem party, along with the justification of the Satanic purge to come: "Trump tried to ruin the Establishment ---where Biden rules!"

Not only do the facts expose Dem's deceit, but so do the laws ---as we all saw during the U.S. Senate trial when Trump was acquitted.

Gruesome.

If anyone thought Trumpletons' creativity extended beyond "Nuh, you are!", or their ingenuity exceeds stealing the truth told about them and turning it around... think again.

Nope. I merely applied some facts and truths, satirically, to a harlequinade you posted. Face this.

 

[Coyote]

...

Telling the truth about, Biden, got Trump impeached.

Then why hasn’t Biden been indicted?

Same reason that Prosecutor got fired, in 2015, for asking the Obama Admin about Biden's corrupt actions in Ukraine.

Same reason why Trump got, impeached, for exposing Biden's Ukraine corruption.

That never happened.