While democrats cant arrest a common criminal Trump arrests Maduro

[BackAgain]

Oh, yes, you do lack the authority if you took him from his own country - ie kidnapped him without him wanting to go.

Wrong. As I already noted, the SCOTUS already answered that claim you ignorantly and erroneously just made.

Give reading a try/

See, United States v. Alvarez-Machain,(1992).

There is nothing arguable about it.

Wrong. I disproved your erroneous claim already.

He has diplomatic immunity.

No. He doesn’t. He isn’t a legitimate leader of his country. And he wasn’t when he was indicted, either.

Not that I'm happy about the likes of him having it, but he is the leader of another country.

Nope. He wasn’t. He was a drug cartel strong man who illegally seized power.

That aside, he's an arsehole and I hope he goes to prison.

That aside? Yes. He is an asshole and deserves to get a fair trial and, if convicted, he deserves a couple of decades in one of the US’s most secure prisons.

 

[Stann]

I asked how it was illegal. Answer that one, first.

But you can’t.

It is arguable it violated international laws and norms regarding sovereignty and regarding rendition. Arguable. Not authoritative.

But again, even if the rendition is outside the bounds of “international law”
[sic] it doesn’t mean that we lack valid authority to try his ass on the indictment.

I haven't heard a single legal authority say this was legal in any way.Bit I am sure some kangaroo court will back trump up. Maybe even what used to be the Supreme Court before he corrupted it.

 

[BackAgain]

I asked how it was illegal. Answer that one, first.

But you can’t.

It is arguable it violated international laws and norms regarding sovereignty and regarding rendition. Arguable. Not authoritative.

But again, even if the rendition is outside the bounds of “international law”
[sic] it doesn’t mean that we lack valid authority to try his ass on the indictment.

Stain. Your downvote means nothing to me. But it highlights your ignorance and your inability to discuss these matters intelligently.

Have one of your attendants help you with the bigger words.

 

[BackAgain]

I haven't heard a single legal authority say this was legal in any way.

I don’t care what you have or haven’t “heard.”

That’s not a test for anything.

If we assume (without conceding) that it was a rendition, it doesn’t change the fact that once he is brought before the District Court, our legal system has perfectly valid authority to try him for the crimes on which he has long been indicted.

United States v. Alvarez-Machain, (1992)

 

[Dr Grump]

Wrong. As I already noted, the SCOTUS already answered that claim you ignorantly and erroneously just made.

Give reading a try/

See, United States v. Alvarez-Machain,(1992).


Wrong. I disproved your erroneous claim already.

No. He doesn’t. He isn’t a legitimate leader of his country. And he wasn’t when he was indicted, either.

Nope. He wasn’t. He was a drug cartel strong man who illegally seized power.

That aside? Yes. He is an asshole and deserves to get a fair trial and, if convicted, he deserves a couple of decades in one of the US’s most secure prisons.

All that case law does is apply to the US ie, just because the US says it's lawful doesn't mean it is. I'm not a US citizen, so I'm looking on the outside looking in. I mean, do you kidnap Xi next? There is an argument that he not the legitimate leader of China as Mao illegally seized power in 1949. I could go on. It's not a good look for the US. Then again, Bush Snr did the same with Noriega. It puts dictator's on notice. Especially those peddling drugs to US citizens.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Democrat cities allow common criminals to run free. How often does the news report a violent act by a criminal with a long history of violence and hes out of prison in a democrat city?
Maduro wages war against America and slam dunk he has the right to remain silent. Why cant democrats do this
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Because it's illegal. It goes against US laws and constitution, moron.

 

[BackAgain]

All that case law does is apply to the US ie,

Don’t you feel stupid?

You are stuoid. But I’m curious if you now feel stupid?

It’s US law that will be applied, you dope.

just because the US says it's lawful doesn't mean it is.

Actually, it does since our courts will be the ones handling his trial.

I'm not a US citizen, so I'm looking on the outside looking in. I mean, do you kidnap Xi next? There is an argument that he not the legitimate leader of China as Mao illegally seized power in 1949. I could go on. It's not a good look for the US. Then again, Bush Snr did the same with Noriega. It puts dictator's on notice. Especially those peddling drugs to US citizens.

It isn’t kidnapping. And President Xi is the legitimate and recognized leader of the PRC.

Maduro is not a national leader, not in terms of reality or recognition.

So Xi would have diplomatic immunity. Maduro doesn’t.

So he can whine all he wants to about the rendition. And our courts will not give a ****. Nor should they.

 

[BackAgain]

Because it's illegal. It goes against US laws and constitution, moron.

False. On both counts. You idiot.

 

[BS Filter]

Correct , Biden stayed within the limits of the law.

Nope. Biden indicted Hernandez and got a conviction with 45 year sentence.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

False. On both counts. You idiot.

Prove me wrong BackFlush, Mr. constantly online.

 

[BackAgain]

Prove me wrong, Mr. constantly online.

Actually, ass sucker, you are the proponent. The burden is on you.

I’ll rebut ya later, you scumbag, if you ever sack up and support your bogus claim. Which you won’t.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Actually, ass sucker, you are the proponent. The burden is on you.

I’ll rebut ya later, you scumbag, if you ever sack up and support your bogus claim. Which you won’t.

If we ever go head to head for any sort of debate I'm happy to ******* level you, nitwit.

 

[Stann]

Nope. Biden indicted Hernandez and got a conviction with 45 year sentence.

Did he invade and kidnap him ?

 

[BS Filter]

Did he invade and kidnap him ?

I don't think so. He got him and put him in prison. Maduro was given every opportunity to leave and chose to stay.

Hernandez was arrested by DEA in Honduras and extradited to the US.

 

[Dr Grump]

Actually, ass sucker, you are the proponent. The burden is on you

BS. The burden is always on the prosecution. Always

 

[Dr Grump]

Don’t you feel stupid?

You are stuoid. But I’m curious if you now feel stupid?

It’s US law that will be applied, you dope.

Actually, it does since our courts will be the ones handling his trial.

It isn’t kidnapping. And President Xi is the legitimate and recognized leader of the PRC.

Maduro is not a national leader, not in terms of reality or recognition.

So Xi would have diplomatic immunity. Maduro doesn’t.

So he can whine all he wants to about the rendition. And our courts will not give a ****. Nor should they.

BS. Using your own argument Xi is an illegitimate ruler of PRC. Read an interesting piece by a law professor this afternoon. He literally said everything I said. Gee who to believe? A law professor or a narcissistic, egotistical know-it-all keyboard warrior.

 

[Hafar1014]

Because it's illegal. It goes against US laws and constitution, moron.

False it is supported by the Monroe Doctrine and an open indictment. What it goes against is the world wide socialist movement and is major set back for socialist oppression.

 

[Hafar1014]

It's true , trump still hasn't been brought to justice but he is no common cr8minal.

Lawfare failed Trump beat every fake attempt to use the law to stop his campaign. Now the war against socialism is on baby and the arrest of Maduro and freeing of the Venezuelan people is the first battle victory against the cancer of socialism

 

[Godboy]

Going into another country and taking out its leader will be considered unlawful, given that no one country has the right to judge of another country's injustices.

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It will be considered "unlawful" to who? Is it a nation that can defeat us in a war? Nope. Laws dont exist if you have no means to enforce them. I couldnt give a flying **** about what some other nation thinks about Maduro's capture. They can suck our big American dicks.

In addition, this action was done without the approval of Congress and that opens another legal obstacle.

Weve watched every president in our lifetime commit acts of war without approval from Congress. Name ONE president that hasnt. You cant!!! So why the **** would you post this ^ ridiculous claim? Quit wasting our time with nonsense.

You can ALWAYS bomb other nations without approval from Congress. There is NO exception to this rule. Dont ever say that stupid shit again.

 

[Dragonlady]

Maduro and his Old Lady have been INDICTED.

Why are libs not in favor of law enforcement bringing him in?

Are they against the role of law?

So was Trump - on multiple occasions. Why aren’t you in favour of arresting him?