Which works better for GOP? "Uninformed Cancer Patients" or "hungry children"?

[rdean]

Dexter cancer patient who called health care 'unaffordable' will save more than $1K | The Detroit News



Boonstra’s old plan cost $1,100 a month in premiums or $13,200 a year, she previously told The News. That didn’t include money she spent on co-pays, prescription drugs and other out-of-pocket expenses.

By contrast, the Blues’ plan premium costs $571 a month or $6,852 for the year. Since out-of-pocket costs are capped at $5,100 for in-network doctors and hospitals, including deductibles, the maximum Boonstra would pay this year for all of her cancer treatment is $11,952.

When advised of the details of her Blues’ plan, Boonstra said the idea that it would be cheaper “can’t be true.”

“I personally do not believe that,” Boonstra said. (Maybe "I refuse to believe I've been duped by Republicans?")

Paul Ryan: Full Stomach, Empty Soul

72 percent of households that benefit from the SNAP program include children, and 2.2 million children are lifted out of poverty by governmental assistance programs such as SNAP. The National School Lunch Program benefits 3.1 million children [PDF] who might otherwise have gone hungry with a half day of school still ahead of them. And many of the children who receive lunch at school rely on this as the only meal they know will be served everyday. Soul-crushing? More like life-saving.
Meanwhile, members of the U.S. Congress such as Ryan are being dealt their own soul-crushing blows, since they, too, benefit from a nutritional assistance program.
The nonprofit Sunlight Foundation, which gathers data to make government more transparent, discovered last June that the House spent about $2 million in taxpayer dollars on coffee and catered food for guests. At $95,000, Republican Kevin McCarthy of California spent the most (how demoralizing for him!), including $4,000 on bottled water alone.

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Ryan’s skin not only crawls at the idea of providing children one reliable meal a day, but believes that it will take the dignity away from these children. Because all children with empty stomachs care about is their dignity, right?

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Thank God those "needy" millionaire Republicans are "eating for free". So which works better? Fooling a gullible cancer patient or insisting poor children are better off hungry?

And Republicans say I lie. How do they explain these things? I didn't "magically create" these people.

 

[bedowin62]

the answer is C) inept, FAILED PROGRESSIVES

 

[pvsi]

Which works better for GOP? "Uninformed Cancer Patients" or "hungry children"?

I think it is safe to say that mobs of uninformed democrats is probably best for rich conservatives...

 

[Stephanie]

Oh boy, so the DETROIT NEWS investigated this woman to find out she would save a WHOPPING , 1000 dollars? and notice she is called, an Uninformed cancer patient

The left and rdean are some sick and callious people all for Obama and Democrat party

 

[rdean]

Oh boy, so the DETROIT NEWS investigated this woman to find out she would save a WHOPPING , 1000 dollars? and notice she is called, an Uninformed cancer patient

The left and rdean are some sick and callious people all for Obama and Democrat party

Come on. It takes you a month to make a thousand bucks in crumpled singles. And look how hard you had to work for that thousand bucks.

 

[RandomVariable]

Good thread rdean. I wish I had something to add. Republicans make the poor the scape goat and some people just eat it up. I recently went through 'Chapter 4: Food Aid' of Ryan's "The War on Poverty." While Ryan's document is suppose to make what we spend on food aid seem wasteful it is actually inexcusable how little this country spends to help the less fortunate. One provides all the facts and research in the world to the Republican supporters and it is just water off a duck's back. One other thing that really gets me is that if one hears the Republican side of that argument is the same as the one we hear from the most heartless of the board. Then people say the Republicans and the Democrats are the same thing. Hate one or hate the other or hate them both, just don't say their the same thing.

 

[Londoner]

Over the last 30 years corporations inside the health care industry (from medical device providers to big Pharma and insurance) have invested trillions into our political system. In exchange for this investment, they have been given virtual monopolies over the entire industry. This is why premiums and overall health care costs grew at 5x inflation and decimated the middle class. Let's not even talk about the recessionary pressures that come from the destruction of middle class purchasing power.

Some of the profit made by the industry was invested into the Right's massive information machinery (think tanks, talk radio, TV, social media/internet, etc., etc.,) for the purpose of convincing people that any challenges to the status quo are equivalent to fascism. Indeed, the right tells us that our noble health care system operates like Adam Smith's "mom and pop" boutique capitalism (which no longer exists, and has been replaced by mega corporations that wield more centralized power than most governments). These massive corporations, through their immense media influence, speak to the stupid white man through every possible media orifice, whispering to him in hate filled rage that his country has been stolen by demonic liberal forces.

Such is the plight of our nation, where the angry idiot pours into the street in defense of monopolists who have formed a corrupt rentier class around our vital economic organs.

Which is to say: if ObamaCare, which I think was destroyed in the crib, ever did anything good or useful, the useful idiots would never find out about, for their news sources have no incentive to report it.

Game over. Check mate. America RIP

 

[Listening]

Morons...her whole contention was that she didn't know what her out of pocket costs would be.

EVERYONE KNEW that her premiums would be lower.....but the out of pocket costs were undefined.

She took a letter to an official who would not open the door to her.

You people are soooooo stupid.

 

[BobPlumb]

Bottom line: she was happy with her insurance but was not able to keep her insurance as promised by BHM.

 

[Listening]

Hey RDean (RDoofus),

What say we discuss this poor bastard.....

Hey, Harry Reid, is this Baptist Preacher a Liar, too? Pastor Hit by Truck Another ObamaCare Victim - Todd Starnes - Page 2

Guy is smashed by a car after he loses his plan. He couldn't find a new one because the website was down...finally got one...to late.

Thanks Obama...
Thanks Harry...
Thanks RDean...

Rot in hell....all three of you.

 

[Katzndogz]

I notice the deductible wasn't included in her expenses.

 

[Clementine]

The left insulted everyone who called Obama a liar when he claimed Obamacare would bring costs down and that everyone could keep their doctors and plans. We knew it would cost more. We knew it would cost jobs. We knew illegal aliens would be covered. We knew lies were being told. The left attacked everyone who criticized Obamacare.

Now that some people are unhappy with it, they are being called liars. We are supposed to be happy with what we have now, if we still have anything, because the left says we should be. They think they know what we need more than we do. They are so wrong!

Bottom line is that we were all lied to and now that we've lost our plans and our doctors, we're still being insulted and questioned as if we did something wrong.

Obama and the liberals messed with something very personal to each of us - our choice in health care. We no longer have choices, thanks to the supposedly pro-choice left.

We have a right to be angry at the uncertainty. We have a right to be mad at the higher deductibles. Many have every right to be pissed about losing their plans and some can't afford the higher rates. Many wanted to keep their plans and, especially, their doctors.

The left lied and now they have the nerve to attack the people who resent being lied to.

 

[rdean]

Hey RDean (RDoofus),

What say we discuss this poor bastard.....

Hey, Harry Reid, is this Baptist Preacher a Liar, too? Pastor Hit by Truck Another ObamaCare Victim - Todd Starnes - Page 2

Guy is smashed by a car after he loses his plan. He couldn't find a new one because the website was down...finally got one...to late.

Thanks Obama...
Thanks Harry...
Thanks RDean...

Rot in hell....all three of you.

Go Google "Mississippi Governor blocks Medicaid and Affordable Care".

And how are they going to "penalized"?

And did his old plan even have hospital coverage?

This story is full of fucking holes, you could drive a truck through it.

 

[rdean]

I notice the deductible wasn't included in her expenses.

Boonstra’s old plan cost $1,100 a month in premiums or $13,200 a year, she previously told The News. That didn’t include money she spent on co-pays, prescription drugs and other out-of-pocket expenses.

By contrast, the Blues’ plan premium costs $571 a month or $6,852 for the year. Since out-of-pocket costs are capped at $5,100 for in-network doctors and hospitals, including deductibles, the maximum Boonstra would pay this year for all of her cancer treatment is $11,952.

You were saying?

 

[Listening]

I notice the deductible wasn't included in her expenses.

Boonstra’s old plan cost $1,100 a month in premiums or $13,200 a year, she previously told The News. That didn’t include money she spent on co-pays, prescription drugs and other out-of-pocket expenses.

By contrast, the Blues’ plan premium costs $571 a month or $6,852 for the year. Since out-of-pocket costs are capped at $5,100 for in-network doctors and hospitals, including deductibles, the maximum Boonstra would pay this year for all of her cancer treatment is $11,952.

You were saying?

She had no idea when the copays would be do and at what level. That is all she has ever said.

 

[Listening]

I notice the deductible wasn't included in her expenses.

Boonstra’s old plan cost $1,100 a month in premiums or $13,200 a year, she previously told The News. That didn’t include money she spent on co-pays, prescription drugs and other out-of-pocket expenses.

By contrast, the Blues’ plan premium costs $571 a month or $6,852 for the year. Since out-of-pocket costs are capped at $5,100 for in-network doctors and hospitals, including deductibles, the maximum Boonstra would pay this year for all of her cancer treatment is $11,952.

You were saying?

Hey Dean you lying sack....

Noticed you skipped over the story on the guy who got whacked by a truck.....no insurance thanks to ObameDoesn'tCare.

Looking forward to your turd response.

 

[auditor0007]

I notice the deductible wasn't included in her expenses.

Read it again. Your comprehension level is poor.

 

[Dot Com]

I notice the deductible wasn't included in her expenses.

Boonstra’s old plan cost $1,100 a month in premiums or $13,200 a year, she previously told The News. That didn’t include money she spent on co-pays, prescription drugs and other out-of-pocket expenses.

By contrast, the Blues’ plan premium costs $571 a month or $6,852 for the year. Since out-of-pocket costs are capped at $5,100 for in-network doctors and hospitals, including deductibles, the maximum Boonstra would pay this year for all of her cancer treatment is $11,952.

You were saying?

she isn't interested in the truth it seems. quelle surpise! Just like the ideologue they had stand in front of the AFP cam to film that rw hack commercial.

 

[Stephanie]

The left insulted everyone who called Obama a liar when he claimed Obamacare would bring costs down and that everyone could keep their doctors and plans. We knew it would cost more. We knew it would cost jobs. We knew illegal aliens would be covered. We knew lies were being told. The left attacked everyone who criticized Obamacare.

Now that some people are unhappy with it, they are being called liars. We are supposed to be happy with what we have now, if we still have anything, because the left says we should be. They think they know what we need more than we do. They are so wrong!

Bottom line is that we were all lied to and now that we've lost our plans and our doctors, we're still being insulted and questioned as if we did something wrong.

Obama and the liberals messed with something very personal to each of us - our choice in health care. We no longer have choices, thanks to the supposedly pro-choice left.

We have a right to be angry at the uncertainty. We have a right to be mad at the higher deductibles. Many have every right to be pissed about losing their plans and some can't afford the higher rates. Many wanted to keep their plans and, especially, their doctors.

The left lied and now they have the nerve to attack the people who resent being lied to.

They better believe we have a RIGHT to be pissed, now lets take anger to ballot box come next elections and kick all these lying progressive/Democrats out of office and OUT OF OUR LIVES....lets roll folks

 

[Clementine]

The left insulted everyone who called Obama a liar when he claimed Obamacare would bring costs down and that everyone could keep their doctors and plans. We knew it would cost more. We knew it would cost jobs. We knew illegal aliens would be covered. We knew lies were being told. The left attacked everyone who criticized Obamacare.

Now that some people are unhappy with it, they are being called liars. We are supposed to be happy with what we have now, if we still have anything, because the left says we should be. They think they know what we need more than we do. They are so wrong!

Bottom line is that we were all lied to and now that we've lost our plans and our doctors, we're still being insulted and questioned as if we did something wrong.

Obama and the liberals messed with something very personal to each of us - our choice in health care. We no longer have choices, thanks to the supposedly pro-choice left.

We have a right to be angry at the uncertainty. We have a right to be mad at the higher deductibles. Many have every right to be pissed about losing their plans and some can't afford the higher rates. Many wanted to keep their plans and, especially, their doctors.

The left lied and now they have the nerve to attack the people who resent being lied to.

They better believe we have a RIGHT to be pissed, now lets take anger to ballot box come next elections and kick all these lying progressive/Democrats out of office and OUT OF OUR LIVES....lets roll folks

Polls are showing that people intend to do just that! Maybe the left will get it that people don't like being lied to, then criticized for complaining about being lied to. Those scumbags think they can railroad us into obeying their agenda and they've got a crude wakeup call in the near future.

Sebelius just stated that Obamacare costs are going up in 2015. It gets worse with each passing day. Libs can't run on their record and they can't run from it.

I hope a lot of cheating doesn't go on in the next election. That woman who was found mummified in her garage (dead 6 years) apparently voted in 2010. Just peachy. Not to mention the illegal aliens that vote because of motor voter. We need to have every citizen re-register and stop the automatic motor voter registration. And I don't want to hear a peep from the left about how stopping motor voter will disenfranchise minorities because it's harder to get a driver's license than it is to register to vote.