Which One Deserves The Title 'Domestic Terrorists'?

IMHO Chic, the last thing the US needs is more punitive prosecutions. Your jails are overflowed more than any other country's in the world.

And Norway is demonstrating how incarceration doesn't work as well as an attitude of rehabilitation.

How surprising is it that the concept Norway has adopted is accidentally in concert with the urging of the christian bible, while America attempts to make the opposite work hon?
Jail and prison are not always the answer. I actually agree. A prosecution without a threat of jail or prison is not generally a very persuasive way to get the people in a society to comply with reasonable laws however.

I say this as a conservative. Mass incarceration has significant drawbacks for a society. Not just for the ones penalized, but for all of us. On the OTHER HAND, isolating violent lawbreakers from the law abiding folks in society sure seems to have some merit.

Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that there is no “one size fits all” resolution to this problem. What may work in a relatively cohesive society may not work in a much more diverse society. We might all agree that peace is superior to war. But it can’t be claimed that war has never solved some dire problems.

I know I don’t have all the answers. Very few in fact. But I believe in asking the right questions and working to obtain meaningful workable solutions. Or at least to seek out those prospects and try to move closer to them. Frankly, that’s my basic understanding of the American way.
We don’t always get it right. And it may take a frustratingly long time. But we do try. And we do often succeed. We did end slavery. We did help defeat the damn Nazis. We have landed men on the moon.
 
Biden voters at work:

“Jaw-Dropping: Police Chief Association Releases Number of Officers Injured During Violent Riots

The Major Cities Chiefs Association released a report detailing the number of violent riots and the number of police officers injured during the riots U.S. cities faced after the death of George Floyd in May. The MCCA, which has members in 69 of the largest cities in the U.S., released the findings of their survey in October and compiled data from May 25 to July 31, 2020. In total, 8,700 protests took place in major American cities during that time period.Of the 8,700 protests, 574 of them were riots that saw mass looting and destruction.

During the riots cities experienced, the MCCA said their survey found at least 2,000 police officers were injured:

"In cities where violence did occur, assaults on police officers, looting, and arson were the most common criminal activities. Approximately, 72% of major city law enforcement agencies had officers harmed during the protests. This included nearly every agency that experienced at least one violent protest. In total, over the course of the civil unrest from May to July, more than 2,000 officers sustained injuries in the line of duty. One agency reported 50 officers being injured in a single week of protests. Another agency reported that 462 of their officers were injured during the protests in their jurisdiction.

"Looting was also a common occurrence (2,385 instances), with 62% of major city law enforcement agencies indicating that at least one incident of looting occurred in their cities. “






Every single one due to Biden voters.

Riots, arson, anarchism, assaults, lawlessness rewarded, neither lives nor property safe.....under Democrat governance.
One wonders why citizens pay taxes, and what they expect from government, when the above is the norm from Democrats officials.
 
Jail and prison are not always the answer. I actually agree. A prosecution without a threat of jail or prison is not generally a very persuasive way to get the people in a society to comply with reasonable laws however.

I say this as a conservative. Mass incarceration has significant drawbacks for a society. Not just for the ones penalized, but for all of us. On the OTHER HAND, isolating violent lawbreakers from the law abiding folks in society sure seems to have some merit.

Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that there is no “one size fits all” resolution to this problem. What may work in a relatively cohesive society may not work in a much more diverse society. We might all agree that peace is superior to war. But it can’t be claimed that war has never solved some dire problems.

I know I don’t have all the answers. Very few in fact. But I believe in asking the right questions and working to obtain meaningful workable solutions. Or at least to seek out those prospects and try to move closer to them. Frankly, that’s my basic understanding of the American way.
We don’t always get it right. And it may take a frustratingly long time. But we do try. And we do often succeed. We did end slavery. We did help defeat the damn Nazis. We have landed men on the moon.
You talk a good line but you fail to condemn anything American that has proven to have failed consistently for many generations.
I'll be interested in hearing your comments and demeanour in practice on this board.
 
Here's a plan: we jail all of you communists.
Here's a better plan, Fascist. Indict Trump, Meadows, Patel & the rest of the traitors like the DOJ did Bannon today.

Then you'll have something else to wet your pants about.
 
You talk a good line but you fail to condemn anything American that has proven to have failed consistently for many generations.
I'll be interested in hearing your comments and demeanour in practice on this board.


I despise scum like you who sit back and validate the slaughter of innocent human beings.

Write soon so I can tell you the same again.
 
Here's a better plan, Fascist. Indict Trump, Meadows, Patel & the rest of the traitors like the DOJ did Bannon today.

Then you'll have something else to wet your pants about.


You Democrats couldn't be more ignorant.....

Fascists, Communists, Nazis, Democrats all have the same doctrines and methods.

I just proved it.

Only those with opposing viewpoints were arrested, indicted, harassed.






I love exposing your lies, and I don't mind providing the education government school hid from you, you dunce.


All of these are under one big tent: Fascism, Nazism, Communism, The Democrat Party.


MayDay is the Litmus Test:


Government school, an arm of the Left, attempts to pretend that there is even a 1° of difference between Communism and Nazism, or Fascism.

There isn't.

Those three and these three....Liberalism, Progressivism, and Socialism, all have the very same collectivist, statist aim for society.

The celebration of May Day gives a clue.

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On this day in 1889, May Day—traditionally a celebration of the return of spring, marked by dancing around a Maypole—was first observed as a labour holiday, designated as such by the International Socialist Congress.
Britannica.com




One of those interesting facts that helps verify that Hitler was as much a Leftist as Stalin is that Hitler made MayDay his Nazi holiday, too.

The Nazis sought to gain support of workers by declaring May Day, a day celebrated by organized labour, to be a paid holiday and held celebrations on 1 May 1933 to honour German workers Life and Death in the Third ReichFirst Edition Edition
byPeter Fritzsche p. 45


The regime also insisted through propaganda that all Germans take part in the May Day celebrations in the hope that this would help break down class hostility between workers and burghers.[13]Songs in praise of labour and workers were played by state radio throughout May Day as well as an airshow in Berlin and fireworks.[13]Hitler spoke of workers as patriots who had built Germany's industrial strength and had honourably served in the war and claimed that they had been oppressed undereconomic liberalism.[14]Berliner Morgenpostthat had been strongly associated with the political left in the past praised the regime's May Day celebrations.[14]
Volksgemeinschaft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Here's Stalin's version....



Now....Mussolini, Fascist.....like you:



Stalin helped Mussolini set up his May Day celebration...

'The youngest prime minister in Italian history,....Mussolini was showered with accolades from sundry quarters.... Stalin supplied Mussolini with the plans of the May Day parades in Red Square,to help him polish up his Fascist pageants....He conquered Ethiopia, madea Pact of Steel with Germany, introduced anti-Jewish measures in 1938,came into the war as Hitler's very junior partner,..."
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele



Socialist, fascists, Nazis, communists......Leftist all.
As are Progressives and Modern Liberals.




Lie again and I will destroy both you and the lies as well.
 
You talk a good line but you fail to condemn anything American that has proven to have failed consistently for many generations.
I'll be interested in hearing your comments and demeanour in practice on this board.
Gee and here I was all hopeful that you were going to be one of the reasonable people who could speak intelligently on a topic. Imagine my disappointment.

let’s puzzle this one out a little. If I agree (as I did) that jail and prison aren’t always the answer but suggest that it may be necessary for violent offenders to insulate the rest of us from their behavior, I could have just sworn that implicit was the position that not all crimes call for jail or prison.

Yes. Now that we put it this way, I guess that implication is present. Which is a form of condemnation for having so many people incarcerated. Maybe it’s not raging and ranting enough for your taste? Hm. That’s a problem. For you.
 
You talk a good line but you fail to condemn anything American that has proven to have failed consistently for many generations.
I'll be interested in hearing your comments and demeanour in practice on this board.
And another thing! 😎 what is this importance you seem to place on a requirement that one must “condemn” American things that have not worked? Very odd. I’ll help you out. War helped solve US slavery. That was an American thing. I condemn it as a serious disease of a problem that needed to be eliminated.

I haven’t taken the time to look into your background here. But based on a spelling clue, I’d venture the guess that you aren’t a United States’ citizen. Yet you seem to require condemnation of American mistakes. Why is that? Is it ok if I condemn the mistakes and atrocities of other nations too?
 
You Democrats couldn't be more ignorant.....

Fascists, Communists, Nazis, Democrats all have the same doctrines and methods.

I just proved it.

Only those with opposing viewpoints were arrested, indicted, harassed.






I love exposing your lies, and I don't mind providing the education government school hid from you, you dunce.


All of these are under one big tent: Fascism, Nazism, Communism, The Democrat Party.


MayDay is the Litmus Test:


Government school, an arm of the Left, attempts to pretend that there is even a 1° of difference between Communism and Nazism, or Fascism.

There isn't.

Those three and these three....Liberalism, Progressivism, and Socialism, all have the very same collectivist, statist aim for society.

The celebration of May Day gives a clue.

1588334186241.png




On this day in 1889, May Day—traditionally a celebration of the return of spring, marked by dancing around a Maypole—was first observed as a labour holiday, designated as such by the International Socialist Congress.
Britannica.com




One of those interesting facts that helps verify that Hitler was as much a Leftist as Stalin is that Hitler made MayDay his Nazi holiday, too.

The Nazis sought to gain support of workers by declaring May Day, a day celebrated by organized labour, to be a paid holiday and held celebrations on 1 May 1933 to honour German workers Life and Death in the Third ReichFirst Edition Edition
byPeter Fritzsche p. 45


The regime also insisted through propaganda that all Germans take part in the May Day celebrations in the hope that this would help break down class hostility between workers and burghers.[13]Songs in praise of labour and workers were played by state radio throughout May Day as well as an airshow in Berlin and fireworks.[13]Hitler spoke of workers as patriots who had built Germany's industrial strength and had honourably served in the war and claimed that they had been oppressed undereconomic liberalism.[14]Berliner Morgenpostthat had been strongly associated with the political left in the past praised the regime's May Day celebrations.[14]
Volksgemeinschaft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Here's Stalin's version....



Now....Mussolini, Fascist.....like you:



Stalin helped Mussolini set up his May Day celebration...

'The youngest prime minister in Italian history,....Mussolini was showered with accolades from sundry quarters.... Stalin supplied Mussolini with the plans of the May Day parades in Red Square,to help him polish up his Fascist pageants....He conquered Ethiopia, madea Pact of Steel with Germany, introduced anti-Jewish measures in 1938,came into the war as Hitler's very junior partner,..."
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele



Socialist, fascists, Nazis, communists......Leftist all.
As are Progressives and Modern Liberals.




Lie again and I will destroy both you and the lies as well.
You proved nothing. Bannon was indicted by a GRAND JURY for contempt of Congress. Which is where Meadows is headed unless he smartens up. See Bannon? This is what happens to people like him for jumping aboard the Trump train. Ask Rudy how that's working out & the rioters who are rotting in jail. And Trump cares not one iota for the whole lot of them.

But go ahead, continue with your screeds if it makes you feel better.
 
Here's a better plan, Fascist. Indict Trump, Meadows, Patel & the rest of the traitors like the DOJ did Bannon today.

Then you'll have something else to wet your pants about.


"Here's a better plan, Fascist."


Wanna see a Fascist Plan????

It was the Democrat godfather, Franklin Roosevelt, taking Mussolini's plans and imposing them on America as the New Deal.

he New Deal was taken wholesale from Mussolini's Fascist program.
If that why you vote Fascist...er, Democrat???




"The father of Fascism was Mussolini...."

Exactly who Democrat Franklin Roosevelt idolized.

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Clearly you need a primer on Fascism and its influence on the Democrat Party...., Fascism, the economic program of Mussolini, that Franklin Roosevelt infected America with (sorry to end a sentence with a preposition).


Franklin Roosevelt was inspired by the power of the dictators. He took Mussolini’s Fascist economic system, and imposed it on America.

His economic adviser, Rex Tugwell was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Francis Perkins the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described." Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew." The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system. p.47


Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans. They actually imprisoned a NJ tailor who charged a nickel below the price FDR set.



Democrats and Fascism....carrots and peas.


Did you notice that you put your hoof in your mouth every time you post.


Don't stop now.

You didn't know that because you are an imbecile who has never read a book.

You know what a 'book' is, don't you????
 
You proved nothing. Bannon was indicted by a GRAND JURY for contempt of Congress. Which is where Meadows is headed unless he smartens up. See Bannon? This is what happens to people like him for jumping aboard the Trump train. Ask Rudy how that's working out & the rioters who are rotting in jail. And Trump cares not one iota for the whole lot of them.

But go ahead, continue with your screeds if it makes you feel better.


I just proved you follow Fascists.


Right now you’re probably trying to brush something off your face…you didn’t realize it was the floor.
 
You proved nothing. Bannon was indicted by a GRAND JURY for contempt of Congress. Which is where Meadows is headed unless he smartens up. See Bannon? This is what happens to people like him for jumping aboard the Trump train. Ask Rudy how that's working out & the rioters who are rotting in jail. And Trump cares not one iota for the whole lot of them.

But go ahead, continue with your screeds if it makes you feel better.
Bannon was a Trump guy. A highly politicized Democrat Party DOJ sought to indict him for refusing a Democrat Congress’ fishing expedition partisan subpoena to testify about the January 6 Capitol incident. Surprisingly, a partisan and overtly political Democrat party DOJ managed to secure an indictment for what is technically a crime.

here’s an interesting fact. Maybe you’ve heard it: an indictment is not proof of guilt. It is nothing more than a formal and official criminal accusation by the Government against a person. Did you know that a person accused of a crime is presumed innocent in the eyes of the law: and he could be acquitted at trial? It’s a fact.
 
I just proved you follow Fascists.


Right now you’re probably trying to brush something off your face…you didn’t realize it was the floor.
You proved nothing other then the fact that you're a right wing fanatic.
 
You proved nothing other then the fact that you're a right wing fanatic.

I linked, sourced and documented that it is the Democrat party is a descendent of Mussolini's Fascists.

As a bonus, you helped prove that you....and your sort.....are nothing less than lying scum.

Wear it well.
 
"Here's a better plan, Fascist."


Wanna see a Fascist Plan????

It was the Democrat godfather, Franklin Roosevelt, taking Mussolini's plans and imposing them on America as the New Deal.

he New Deal was taken wholesale from Mussolini's Fascist program.
If that why you vote Fascist...er, Democrat???




"The father of Fascism was Mussolini...."

Exactly who Democrat Franklin Roosevelt idolized.

1634315441420.png



Clearly you need a primer on Fascism and its influence on the Democrat Party...., Fascism, the economic program of Mussolini, that Franklin Roosevelt infected America with (sorry to end a sentence with a preposition).


Franklin Roosevelt was inspired by the power of the dictators. He took Mussolini’s Fascist economic system, and imposed it on America.

His economic adviser, Rex Tugwell was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Francis Perkins the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described." Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew." The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system. p.47


Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans. They actually imprisoned a NJ tailor who charged a nickel below the price FDR set.



Democrats and Fascism....carrots and peas.


Did you notice that you put your hoof in your mouth every time you post.


Don't stop now.

You didn't know that because you are an imbecile who has never read a book.

You know what a 'book' is, don't you????
Yea, I'm really impressed by your reference to FDR & his policies from 70 years ago, screwball.
 
I linked, sourced and documented that it is the Democrat party is a descendent of Mussolini's Fascists.

As a bonus, you helped prove that you....and your sort.....are nothing less than lying scum.

Wear it well.
You proved nothing.

But continue thinking that if it makes you feel better, screwball.
 
Yea, I'm really impressed by your reference to FDR & his policies from 70 years ago, screwball.


Don't come back until you've actually read a book.


Book: a written or printed work consisting of pages glued or sewn together along one side and bound in covers.
 

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