Which is better federation or confederation?

[rupol2000]

Unlike a federation, a confederation has full state sovereignty.

Which form is better, what are the advantages and disadvantages of each of them?

 

[sparky]

Confederation | Definition, Examples, & Facts

Confederation, primarily any league or union of people or bodies of people. The term in modern political use is generally confined to a permanent union of sovereign states for certain common purposes—e.g., the German Confederation established by the Congress of Vienna in 1815.

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Confederation thus came to mean a union of sovereign states in which the stress is laid on the autonomy of each constituent body, while federation implies a union of states in which the stress is laid on the supremacy of the common government

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[rupol2000]

Confederation | Definition, Examples, & Facts

Confederation, primarily any league or union of people or bodies of people. The term in modern political use is generally confined to a permanent union of sovereign states for certain common purposes—e.g., the German Confederation established by the Congress of Vienna in 1815.

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Confederation thus came to mean a union of sovereign states in which the stress is laid on the autonomy of each constituent body, while federation implies a union of states in which the stress is laid on the supremacy of the common government

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And?

 

[sparky]

And?

and i'm trying to sort it out.....seems like a 10ther deal.....~S~

 

[rupol2000]

the German Confederation established by the Congress of Vienna in 1815.

This is a lie, by the way, it was the Austro-Hungarian Confederation.

Austro-Hungarian federalism is generally the ideal of freedom. They had a concept of corporate federalism that did not even depend on land divisions.

 

[sparky]

This is a lie, by the way, it was the Austro-Hungarian Confederation.

Austro-Hungarian federalism is generally the ideal of freedom. They had a concept of corporate federalism that did not even depend on land divisions.

this is Hx i have no knowledge of........

Austro-Hungarian Federation (Revolution!)

The history of the Austro-Hungarian Federation can be traced to the fall of the Holy Roman Empire at the beginning of the 1800s. With the fall of the Empire and the rise of other German nations like Prussia, the Hapsburg dynasty reformed their territories into the Austrian Empire in 1804. The...

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[rupol2000]

this is Hx i have no knowledge of........

According to what I read about it, the very concept of "corporate federalism" refers only to Austro-Hungarian federalism, and this is the freest form of federalism, freer than confederation, because it does not even depend on territories, and gives rights to social and ethnic groups regardless of territories residence

 

[sparky]

"corporate federalism"

well corporate anything is an intimidating term Rup, many would confuse it with the modern world's corporate fascism

150 yrs ago , it may well have been the freer model

I guess some manner of metric is in order???

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[alang1216]

Unlike a federation, a confederation has full state sovereignty.

Which form is better, what are the advantages and disadvantages of each of them?

The US started as a confederation and it failed.

 

[rupol2000]

well corporate anything is an intimidating term Rup, many would confuse it with the modern world's corporate fascism

150 yrs ago , it may well have been the freer model

I guess some manner of metric is in order???

~S~

I think this is due to the fact that the left always mimics the right. The same thing happened with the concept of "socialism", in the original sense it was the protection of private property from monopoly. The Marxists and Prussians turned this into monopoly state capitalism.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

I believe a Confederation is marginally better.

 

[rightwinger]

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