Do Democrats even know how universal health care works? It means long waiting lists at public hospitals for operations, some people die before they get treatment. If you get health insurance the whole point is to the avoid the public system so you can get private health care and avoid the bureaucratic mess in the public health-care system (not to mention relieve the pressure on it).
Wow......you paint a pretty bleak picture of universal health care. So you say we may actually have to wait for non-emergency care. Scary stuff
Why is it that the life expectancy in those countries in those countries is higher than ours? Why do the people in those countries shudder at the thought of dumping universal health care in favor of a plan like the US? Why is healthcare so popular in those countries?
Why do they spend significantly less of GDP on healthcare?
Why is it that nobody loses their homes or goes bankrupt because they can't pay medical bills?
Clearly one can draw incorrect conclusions if one is ideologically driven, i.e. a left winger who cowardly calls oneself a rightwinger...or if one doesn't know the facts:
1. "... a study by Professors Ohsfeldt and Schneider at the University of Iowa, which shows that, if you leave out people who are victims of homicide or who die in automobile accidents, Americans live longer than people in any other Western country."
Medical Care Facts and Fables by Thomas Sowell on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent
Only those with a socialized medicine ax to grind would include homicides and auto accidents as an indictment of American healthcare.
2. Wrong about American healthcare:
"Despite the poor showing on the WHO study, the low longevity ranking of the United States is not likely a result of a poorly functioning health care system, according to researchers with the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER). On the contrary, the United States functions well compared to Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) countries in terms of death avoidance:
Mortality reductions from prostate and breast cancers have been exceptionally rapid in the United States relative to a set of peer countries.
These unusually rapid declines are attributable to wider screening and more aggressive treatment of these diseases.
Screening for other cancers also appears unusually extensive, and five-year survival rates from all of the major cancers are very favorable.
Survival rates following heart attack and stroke are also favorable (although one-year survival rates following stroke are only average), and the proportion of people with elevated blood pressure or cholesterol levels who are receiving medication is well above European standards."
For text:
http://www.nber.org/digest/dec09/w15213.html
3." When the liberals compare Americas health care costs those of Canadas, something they dont figure in is going to the bathroom 12 times a night for 3 years until you can finally be fit in with a government doctor to fix the problem.
In the Province of Quebec, patients suffering from serious incontinence - ie, they have to aller aux toilettes jusqu� 12 fois par nuit (thats 12 times a night) - have to wait three years for a half-hour operation. Thats 3 years times 365 nights times 12 trips to the bathroom.
The central point about socialized medicine is that restricting access is the only means of controlling costs."
http://www.kxmc.com/News/Nation/389366.asp
And what a coincidence the the socialist-in-chief appointed Berwick, who champions rationing medical aid to Americans, to front the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services:
4. "...his remarks attacking private-sector solutions to health care problems, in support of rationing with our eyes open, and expressing his affection for the United Kingdoms notoriously slow and rationing-plagued National Health Service as romantic.
Donald Berwick Appointed Head of CMS - by Benjamin Domenech
One can easily find his vids endorsing rationing healthcare.
Britain’s NHS is nothing like ObamacareDo Democrats even know how universal health care works? It means long waiting lists at public hospitals for operations, some people die before they get treatment. If you get health insurance the whole point is to the avoid the public system so you can get private health care and avoid the bureaucratic mess in the public health-care system (not to mention relieve the pressure on it).
Wow......you paint a pretty bleak picture of universal health care. So you say we may actually have to wait for non-emergency care. Scary stuff
Why is it that the life expectancy in those countries in those countries is higher than ours? Why do the people in those countries shudder at the thought of dumping universal health care in favor of a plan like the US? Why is healthcare so popular in those countries?
Why do they spend significantly less of GDP on healthcare?
Why is it that nobody loses their homes or goes bankrupt because they can't pay medical bills?
Clearly one can draw incorrect conclusions if one is ideologically driven, i.e. a left winger who cowardly calls oneself a rightwinger...or if one doesn't know the facts:
1. "... a study by Professors Ohsfeldt and Schneider at the University of Iowa, which shows that, if you leave out people who are victims of homicide or who die in automobile accidents, Americans live longer than people in any other Western country."
Medical Care Facts and Fables by Thomas Sowell on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent
Only those with a socialized medicine ax to grind would include homicides and auto accidents as an indictment of American healthcare.
2. Wrong about American healthcare:
"Despite the poor showing on the WHO study, the low longevity ranking of the United States is not likely a result of a poorly functioning health care system, according to researchers with the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER). On the contrary, the United States functions well compared to Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) countries in terms of death avoidance:
Mortality reductions from prostate and breast cancers have been exceptionally rapid in the United States relative to a set of peer countries.
These unusually rapid declines are attributable to wider screening and more aggressive treatment of these diseases.
Screening for other cancers also appears unusually extensive, and five-year survival rates from all of the major cancers are very favorable.
Survival rates following heart attack and stroke are also favorable (although one-year survival rates following stroke are only average), and the proportion of people with elevated blood pressure or cholesterol levels who are receiving medication is well above European standards."
For text:
http://www.nber.org/digest/dec09/w15213.html
3." When the liberals compare Americas health care costs those of Canadas, something they dont figure in is going to the bathroom 12 times a night for 3 years until you can finally be fit in with a government doctor to fix the problem.
In the Province of Quebec, patients suffering from serious incontinence - ie, they have to aller aux toilettes jusqu� 12 fois par nuit (thats 12 times a night) - have to wait three years for a half-hour operation. Thats 3 years times 365 nights times 12 trips to the bathroom.
The central point about socialized medicine is that restricting access is the only means of controlling costs."
http://www.kxmc.com/News/Nation/389366.asp
And what a coincidence the the socialist-in-chief appointed Berwick, who champions rationing medical aid to Americans, to front the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services:
4. "...his remarks attacking private-sector solutions to health care problems, in support of rationing with our eyes open, and expressing his affection for the United Kingdoms notoriously slow and rationing-plagued National Health Service as romantic.
Donald Berwick Appointed Head of CMS - by Benjamin Domenech
One can easily find his vids endorsing rationing healthcare.
The model for Obamacare????
The Brits NHS.
"Thousands die each year waiting for hospital beds in U.K.'s government-run healthcare system, doctors' study finds
5,449 patients have died in the U.K. over the past three years because they had to wait so long for a bed in the government-run healthcare system's overcrowded hospitals, a study by leading NHS doctors has found.
Nearly two thousand patients per year "lost their lives since 2016 as a direct result of waiting anywhere between six hours and 11 hours" to be seen, despite being gravely ill or injured, according to research reviewed by the Guardian. The doctors concluded that the deaths were "entirely and solely caused by the length of wait."
Thousands die each year waiting for hospital beds in U.K.'s government-run healthcare system, doctors' study finds
