If some article isn't making a valid point then refute the point and not the source!
How do you know Iraq sent the aircraft to Iran and the pilots just didn't want to get themselves killed in a battle they knew they couldn't win? If the pilots could have made it to Syria or some other country, maybe they would have went there. Many aircraft were destroyed in their bunkers. You are the idiots who claim WMD was smuggled by land and air out of Iraq, but all of Iraq was a no fly zone for the enemy at the start of the Iraq War and I pointed out that al Qa'im and the road out of Syria was taken early in the fighting.
Take a look at the casualties and loses on both sides for the Iraq War and use the footnotes for the wiki sources!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
The whole reason for war was Iraq was claimed to have WMD, namely chemical and biological weapons and they may provide those weapons to terrorists. The choice to go to war with Iraq meant that the government after Saddam would be unstable, because the government kept the Shiite majority in check. The decision to go to war necessitated the occupation of Iraq after the war, but regardless of that obvious reality and the fact that there was plenty of time before the invasion, no plans were made to assist the Iraqi people, once Iraq was occupied. The Bush administration is on record saying they had no plans for nation building prior to the war and were only interested in the WMD. The obvious power vacuum that the war had to produce was totally ignored. We only lost about a hundred servicemen defeating Iraq, but once Iraq was defeated, the administration completely changed their tune. You don't need a CIA report to know destroying the Iraqi military that kept a Shiite majority in check was going to cause instability to Iraq and Iran being Shiite would take advantage of that instability. Once Iraq was defeated, why didn't we just pull back to that neutral zone area between Iraq and Saudi Arabia?
Now let me point out that what I am doing is called analysis and it isn't mindless bitching. I'm pointing out that even after attacking a country for WMD that didn't exist, that there was another intelligent option other than occupying Iraq. We could have put our troops in a nice safe area that couldn't be attacked, but were close enough to kick the ass of another failed government in Iraq. We could have prevented Iranian expansion into Iraq. Our military is designed to fight wars and it isn't designed to behave as policemen. It was occupying Iraq that caused nearly all of our casualties there and it wasn't necessary from a military standpoint. The only explanation for what we did in occupying Iraq was to try to gain control of their resources. If Iraq produced another bad government, we could blow it off the face of the Earth. When someone keeps coming in and ******* you up, you're going to figure out how to get it right sometime in the future.
Now let me point out that what you people are doing is excusing an obvious fiasco by the Bush administration. There is plenty of evidence that Cheney used raw intelligence about WMD to justify going to war. It's a fact that such WMD Iraq could have had, exists in many countries that are hostile to the United States and we weren't concerned about them. It's a fact that the only reason idiots claim the WMD was smuggled out of Iraq is to justify what Bush did, when what Bush did doesn't make sense on many levels. What Bush and Cheney did is what America gets when fools vote cowards into the highest offices of our land and you know their record was to avoid their own asses going to war. They cared about getting a profit for Halliburton and Big Oil more than Coalition and Iraqi lives. The first thing they did was occupy the oil fields and pipelines, so their motive and behavior should be obvious from the beginning of the war. They wanted control of Iraqi resources and used WMD as an excuse for a war that should have never been fought. Would al Qaeda exist today if we used that amount of military resources and money to defeat it? Why can't you right-wing idiots open up your minds and think for a change?
If some article isn't making a valid point then refute the point and not the source!
How do you know Iraq sent the aircraft to Iran and the pilots just didn't want to get themselves killed in a battle they knew they couldn't win? If the pilots could have made it to Syria or some other country, maybe they would have went there. Many aircraft were destroyed in their bunkers. You are the idiots who claim WMD was smuggled by land and air out of Iraq, but all of Iraq was a no fly zone for the enemy at the start of the Iraq War and I pointed out that al Qa'im and the road out of Syria was taken early in the fighting.
Take a look at the casualties and loses on both sides for the Iraq War and use the footnotes for the wiki sources!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
The whole reason for war was Iraq was claimed to have WMD, namely chemical and biological weapons and they may provide those weapons to terrorists. The choice to go to war with Iraq meant that the government after Saddam would be unstable, because the government kept the Shiite majority in check. The decision to go to war necessitated the occupation of Iraq after the war, but regardless of that obvious reality and the fact that there was plenty of time before the invasion, no plans were made to assist the Iraqi people, once Iraq was occupied. The Bush administration is on record saying they had no plans for nation building prior to the war and were only interested in the WMD. The obvious power vacuum that the war had to produce was totally ignored. We only lost about a hundred servicemen defeating Iraq, but once Iraq was defeated, the administration completely changed their tune. You don't need a CIA report to know destroying the Iraqi military that kept a Shiite majority in check was going to cause instability to Iraq and Iran being Shiite would take advantage of that instability. Once Iraq was defeated, why didn't we just pull back to that neutral zone area between Iraq and Saudi Arabia?
Now let me point out that what I am doing is called analysis and it isn't mindless bitching. I'm pointing out that even after attacking a country for WMD that didn't exist, that there was another intelligent option other than occupying Iraq. We could have put our troops in a nice safe area that couldn't be attacked, but were close enough to kick the ass of another failed government in Iraq. We could have prevented Iranian expansion into Iraq. Our military is designed to fight wars and it isn't designed to behave as policemen. It was occupying Iraq that caused nearly all of our casualties there and it wasn't necessary from a military standpoint. The only explanation for what we did in occupying Iraq was to try to gain control of their resources. If Iraq produced another bad government, we could blow it off the face of the Earth. When someone keeps coming in and ******* you up, you're going to figure out how to get it right sometime in the future.
Now let me point out that what you people are doing is excusing an obvious fiasco by the Bush administration. There is plenty of evidence that Cheney used raw intelligence about WMD to justify going to war. It's a fact that such WMD Iraq could have had, exists in many countries that are hostile to the United States and we weren't concerned about them. It's a fact that the only reason idiots claim the WMD was smuggled out of Iraq is to justify what Bush did, when what Bush did doesn't make sense on many levels. What Bush and Cheney did is what America gets when fools vote cowards into the highest offices of our land and you know their record was to avoid their own asses going to war. They cared about getting a profit for Halliburton and Big Oil more than Coalition and Iraqi lives. The first thing they did was occupy the oil fields and pipelines, so their motive and behavior should be obvious from the beginning of the war. They wanted control of Iraqi resources and used WMD as an excuse for a war that should have never been fought. Would al Qaeda exist today if we used that amount of military resources and money to defeat it? Why can't you right-wing idiots open up your minds and think for a change?
Typical leftwing unsubstantiated bull crap. You presented no viable sources.
Therefore, you present nothing but your personal rantings. And you expect rational people to take you seriously? The only place it makes sense is in the delusional world you live in.
Daily Kos?
Daily Kos?
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Christ, liberals are ******* idiots!
If some article isn't making a valid point then refute the point and not the source!
How do you know Iraq sent the aircraft to Iran and the pilots just didn't want to get themselves killed in a battle they knew they couldn't win? If the pilots could have made it to Syria or some other country, maybe they would have went there. Many aircraft were destroyed in their bunkers. You are the idiots who claim WMD was smuggled by land and air out of Iraq, but all of Iraq was a no fly zone for the enemy at the start of the Iraq War and I pointed out that al Qa'im and the road out of Syria was taken early in the fighting.
Take a look at the casualties and loses on both sides for the Iraq War and use the footnotes for the wiki sources!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
The whole reason for war was Iraq was claimed to have WMD, namely chemical and biological weapons and they may provide those weapons to terrorists. The choice to go to war with Iraq meant that the government after Saddam would be unstable, because the government kept the Shiite majority in check. The decision to go to war necessitated the occupation of Iraq after the war, but regardless of that obvious reality and the fact that there was plenty of time before the invasion, no plans were made to assist the Iraqi people, once Iraq was occupied. The Bush administration is on record saying they had no plans for nation building prior to the war and were only interested in the WMD. The obvious power vacuum that the war had to produce was totally ignored. We only lost about a hundred servicemen defeating Iraq, but once Iraq was defeated, the administration completely changed their tune. You don't need a CIA report to know destroying the Iraqi military that kept a Shiite majority in check was going to cause instability to Iraq and Iran being Shiite would take advantage of that instability. Once Iraq was defeated, why didn't we just pull back to that neutral zone area between Iraq and Saudi Arabia?
Now let me point out that what I am doing is called analysis and it isn't mindless bitching. I'm pointing out that even after attacking a country for WMD that didn't exist, that there was another intelligent option other than occupying Iraq. We could have put our troops in a nice safe area that couldn't be attacked, but were close enough to kick the ass of another failed government in Iraq. We could have prevented Iranian expansion into Iraq. Our military is designed to fight wars and it isn't designed to behave as policemen. It was occupying Iraq that caused nearly all of our casualties there and it wasn't necessary from a military standpoint. The only explanation for what we did in occupying Iraq was to try to gain control of their resources. If Iraq produced another bad government, we could blow it off the face of the Earth. When someone keeps coming in and ******* you up, you're going to figure out how to get it right sometime in the future.
Now let me point out that what you people are doing is excusing an obvious fiasco by the Bush administration. There is plenty of evidence that Cheney used raw intelligence about WMD to justify going to war. It's a fact that such WMD Iraq could have had, exists in many countries that are hostile to the United States and we weren't concerned about them. It's a fact that the only reason idiots claim the WMD was smuggled out of Iraq is to justify what Bush did, when what Bush did doesn't make sense on many levels. What Bush and Cheney did is what America gets when fools vote cowards into the highest offices of our land and you know their record was to avoid their own asses going to war. They cared about getting a profit for Halliburton and Big Oil more than Coalition and Iraqi lives. The first thing they did was occupy the oil fields and pipelines, so their motive and behavior should be obvious from the beginning of the war. They wanted control of Iraqi resources and used WMD as an excuse for a war that should have never been fought. Would al Qaeda exist today if we used that amount of military resources and money to defeat it? Why can't you right-wing idiots open up your minds and think for a change?
Typical leftwing unsubstantiated bull crap. You presented no viable sources.
Therefore, you present nothing but your personal rantings. And you expect rational people to take you seriously? The only place it makes sense is in the delusional world you live in.
You want a viable source that proves a negative? There was no WMD and Bush had the option to not occupy Iraq, even after he invaded it. Logic shows that Bush intended on occupying Iraq from the start, because that's what he did and he knew occupying Iraq would be required to guard the oil resources.
