Where did Syria get chemical weapons ??

[g5000]

Umm we the USA have a few chemical weapons bunkers. ONe hjere in central KY with decades old chemical weapons stored in them.

The Blue Grass Army Depot is one of the sites in the US responsible for the destruction of such CW.

Also some chemical weapons are pretty easy to make.
They were used in WW1.

VX was not used in WWI. It did not even exist then, and has never been used in warfare.

Nor did sarin exist in WWI. And sarin has only been used in warfare once, by Saddam Hussein against the Kurds in 1988.

These are not "easy to make".

Syria is believed to have mixed their sarin precursors in December for preparation for use against the rebels. Once mixed, sarin has a shelf life of months at best.

And as has been shown above, the precursors have a shelf life of five years max.

 

[uscitizen]

Umm we the USA have a few chemical weapons bunkers. ONe hjere in central KY with decades old chemical weapons stored in them.

The Blue Grass Army Depot is one of the sites in the US responsible for the destruction of such CW.

Also some chemical weapons are pretty easy to make.
They were used in WW1.

VX was not used in WWI. It did not even exist then, and has never been used in warfare.

Nor did sarin exist in WWI. And sarin has only been used in warfare once, by Saddam Hussein against the Kurds in 1988.

These are not "easy to make".

Syria is believed to have mixed their sarin precursors in December for preparation for use against the rebels. Once mixed, sarin has a shelf life of months at best.

And as has been shown above, the precursors have a shelf life of five years max.

Yeah I think the blue grass army depot recently got approved to START construction of a chemical weapons disposal facility.
only 30 years past due.

 

[uscitizen]

Umm we the USA have a few chemical weapons bunkers. ONe hjere in central KY with decades old chemical weapons stored in them.

The Blue Grass Army Depot is one of the sites in the US responsible for the destruction of such CW.

Also some chemical weapons are pretty easy to make.
They were used in WW1.

VX was not used in WWI. It did not even exist then, and has never been used in warfare.

Nor did sarin exist in WWI. And sarin has only been used in warfare once, by Saddam Hussein against the Kurds in 1988.

These are not "easy to make".

Syria is believed to have mixed their sarin precursors in December for preparation for use against the rebels. Once mixed, sarin has a shelf life of months at best.

And as has been shown above, the precursors have a shelf life of five years max.

Mustard gas?

If they have a 5 yr shelf life why does the army depot have to spend millions and millions to dispose of the 50 year old stuff?

 

[g5000]

Umm we the USA have a few chemical weapons bunkers. ONe hjere in central KY with decades old chemical weapons stored in them.

The Blue Grass Army Depot is one of the sites in the US responsible for the destruction of such CW.

Also some chemical weapons are pretty easy to make.
They were used in WW1.

VX was not used in WWI. It did not even exist then, and has never been used in warfare.

Nor did sarin exist in WWI. And sarin has only been used in warfare once, by Saddam Hussein against the Kurds in 1988.

These are not "easy to make".

Syria is believed to have mixed their sarin precursors in December for preparation for use against the rebels. Once mixed, sarin has a shelf life of months at best.

And as has been shown above, the precursors have a shelf life of five years max.

Mustard gas?

If they have a 5 yr shelf life why does the army depot have to spend millions and millions to dispose of the 50 year old stuff?

The chemical weapon in play in Syria is sarin, not mustard gas.

And CWs are still toxic even if they have degraded. It's not like you can spread the shit on your breakfast cereal.

 

[Dubya]

Why isn't this question being asked??Where Did Syria?s Chemical Weapons Come From?

You can't get information from right-wing rags. Those chemical and even biological weapons are not that hard to make. There is a big damned desert between Iraq and Syria. There is one road through that desert to a border town that fell early in the Iraq War. It's absurd to play that Bush bullshit game that the WMD was moved to Syria. Cheney cooked the intelligence by using reports of raw intelligence that weren't confirmed. It's possible they even generated those intelligence reports. The CIA didn't sign off on the idea that Iraq had WMD, but that didn't stop Cheney. You idiots need to stop lying and realize the world knows they attacked Iraq without good cause. Once they got their hands on Saddam and no WMD, they should have withdrawn from Iraq to that neutral zone between Iraq and Saudi Arabia. They could always come back and kick their asses again, until they get it right.

That WMD in Iraq and the present "WMD" in Syria isn't uncommon for a country to have or manufacture. It would be uncommon for a country of any size or development to not have such weapons. Germany had plenty of those weapons, but didn't use them out of fear of retaliation. Some were destroyed after WWII in Huntsville, Alabama and hugh amounts were dumped into the Gulf of Mexico along with unexploded ordinance. It's something you have to watch out for when drilling for oil and gas in the Gulf.

Why do fools continue to post this crap and look for a fool to buy it? You need to stop looking for fools, you have them all.

However it is just fine to use LEFT WING Rags....LOL!

I use primary sources to build a case. I have a background in Chemistry and I have looked up how to make chemical and biological weapons on many occasions. Your type is too lazy to learn facts and just post bullshit from right-wing rags. Even when refuted, you continue to post the lies, because your purpose is to spread misinformation that suits your right-wing agenda of covering up all their misdeeds. You obviously don't care that all those American servicemen were killed off in the process.

Damn, you people are a blight on this planet!

 

[yidnar]

IRAQI U-N WEAPONS INSPECTION STALL DRAWS IRE

 

[NYcarbineer]

The WMD programs that Bush alleged Saddam had, in order for Bush to dupe us into a war,

would have required thousands of Iraqis working in them, both military and non-military.

And yet,

we never found any of those people. Irrefutable proof that the WMD's did not exist.

 

[Staidhup]

Just another example how a simple question metamorphoses into another anti Bush and Cheney rant. Considering the failed policies of the left one needs a reliable detractor to skirt around the question.

 

[yidnar]

The WMD programs that Bush alleged Saddam had, in order for Bush to dupe us into a war,

would have required thousands of Iraqis working in them, both military and non-military.

And yet,

we never found any of those people. Irrefutable proof that the WMD's did not exist.

what did he use on the Kurds ??

 

[Clementine]

Depends upon the chemical composition. The same applies to Biological. In addition storage temperature is another determining factor. Several people believe those responsible for Iraq's WMD's may have simply moved over to the highest bidder.

Iraqi general Sada claimed that they moved chems and equipment to Syria.

Yeah, and yet no one was able to ever produce anyone who actually moved the WMD's,

nor were we ever able to find anyone who was involved in making them.

Apparently they were produced by magic, and moved by magic.

Am I the only one who actually watched CNN during that time? They played recordings between Saddam's people and one was warning that U.N. inspectors would be coming the next day, so they needed to load and move the trucks out right away. They were hiding something.

And inspectors did find remnants of what appeared to be a chemical lab. They found various equipment that had been hidden in different locations. When talking about the actual chemical weapons, it's not like they had to hide an elephant, more like some suitcases. The trucks could have been hauling the remains of labs.

I recall watching and they showed what was supposed to be live footage of a bombed out school building. We only knew it was a school because of a cardboard sign with 'school' written in English. Damn convincing, eh? Of course, for a building that was supposed to have been just bombed, there was no smoke, no smoldering embers and tall weeds growing through all the rubble. I recall thinking that the reporter was either reporting this under duress or was compliant in trying to make our troops look bad.

In another case, the same reporter, I forget the little wusses name now, was discussing a building that supposedly housed no military personnel or weapons. The entire upper level was off limits, but they allowed the reporter into a few lower level rooms. He stated that they proved it was a civilian building.

In another instance, the reporter was talking about wounded civilians being taken to makeshift medical facilities. As he was talking, a blanket fell off a patient in the background to reveal a military uniform.

With that sort of bias reporting and deliberate attempts to put propaganda in place of facts, I don't believe a damn thing from some of the liberal media.

For all we know, Syria got the weapons from the same place some of the other radicals got theirs. They never seem to be lacking weapons. If they do deplete their stock, maybe Obama can give them some jets, tanks and money.

 

[JoeB131]

Any fool can make a chemical weapon.

Maybe we should ban chemicals, too??

We already seriously restrict their sale, actually. There are some chemicals you just can't buy, and some if you buy a lot of, it raises red flags.

But Dammit, the Second Amendment totally give you the right to make that Sarin Bomb and kill all your neighbors with Smilex Gas..

Just another Second Amendment Hero!

 

[JoeB131]

The WMD programs that Bush alleged Saddam had, in order for Bush to dupe us into a war,

would have required thousands of Iraqis working in them, both military and non-military.

And yet,

we never found any of those people. Irrefutable proof that the WMD's did not exist.

what did he use on the Kurds ??

Good question, since the Reagan Adminstration denied there was ANY genocide going on against the Kurds and fought like hell to keep Saddam from being sanctioned.

 

[skye]

The WMD programs that Bush alleged Saddam had, in order for Bush to dupe us into a war,

would have required thousands of Iraqis working in them, both military and non-military.

And yet,

we never found any of those people. Irrefutable proof that the WMD's did not exist.

what did he use on the Kurds ??

Exactly.

"Iraqi forces used multiple chemical agents during the attack, including mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX "

To deny that Iraq had chemical weapons is simply foolish!

 

[JoeB131]

The WMD programs that Bush alleged Saddam had, in order for Bush to dupe us into a war,

would have required thousands of Iraqis working in them, both military and non-military.

And yet,

we never found any of those people. Irrefutable proof that the WMD's did not exist.

what did he use on the Kurds ??

Exactly.

"Iraqi forces used multiple chemical agents during the attack, including mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX "

To deny that Iraq had chemical weapons is simply foolish!

To point out they had Chemical weapons in 1988 does not mean they had chemical weapons in 2003.

Somewhere in between, you had a supervised destruction of all their chemical weapons stores.

You also had 15 years of crippling sanctions that made it impossible to maintain a WMD Program.

But again- we did not go to war over chemical weapons. We went to war over nuclear and biological weapons Saddam never had.

 

[skye]

what did he use on the Kurds ??

Exactly.

"Iraqi forces used multiple chemical agents during the attack, including mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX "

To deny that Iraq had chemical weapons is simply foolish!

To point out they had Chemical weapons in 1988 does not mean they had chemical weapons in 2003.

Somewhere in between, you had a supervised destruction of all their chemical weapons stores.

You also had 15 years of crippling sanctions that made it impossible to maintain a WMD Program.

But again- we did not go to war over chemical weapons. We went to war over nuclear and biological weapons Saddam never had.

Chemical or Biological weapons!

Do not try to make this a matter or semantics!

 

[JoeB131]

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Chemical or Biological weapons!

Do not try to make this a matter or semantics!

It's ALL about semantics.

Bush never said, "Dooooy, Corky say we go to war over chemical weapons. They bad in 1914."

He talked about Mushroom clouds and shit. They lined the Texas Retard up in front of the Camera and he made it sound like Saddam was about to hand a nuke over to Bin Laden.

No one gave a shit about a shell filled with old expired mustard gas.

But shit, bush couldn't even meet THAT low standard. I mean, if they found a pile of those, he could ave said "Well, we found WMD's (kind of) so it's okay killed thousands of people and strengthened Iran is cool and put our kids into decades of debt!"

 

[skye]

[


Chemical or Biological weapons!

Do not try to make this a matter or semantics!

It's ALL about semantics.

Bush never said, "Dooooy, Corky say we go to war over chemical weapons. They bad in 1914."

He talked about Mushroom clouds and shit. They lined the Texas Retard up in front of the Camera and he made it sound like Saddam was about to hand a nuke over to Bin Laden.

No one gave a shit about a shell filled with old expired mustard gas.

But shit, bush couldn't even meet THAT low standard. I mean, if they found a pile of those, he could ave said "Well, we found WMD's (kind of) so it's okay killed thousands of people and strengthened Iran is cool and put our kids into decades of debt!"

Will you calm down?

I am saying that Iraq had chemical or biological weapons. no doubt about it! It killed Kurds with them!!!

Some of it might have been transferred to Syria or it might have not.

 

[Dubya]

The WMD programs that Bush alleged Saddam had, in order for Bush to dupe us into a war,

would have required thousands of Iraqis working in them, both military and non-military.

And yet,

we never found any of those people. Irrefutable proof that the WMD's did not exist.

what did he use on the Kurds ??

Exactly.

"Iraqi forces used multiple chemical agents during the attack, including mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX "

To deny that Iraq had chemical weapons is simply foolish!

Iraq also had UN inspectors to locate and oversee the destruction of WMD. Having what became to be called WMD, meaning chemical and biological weapons has never been disputed in Iraq's past. We know they used these weapons against Iran when they were being overrun and against the Kurds. There is a dispute about those weapons existing when we invaded Iraq and that dispute is made by right-wingers trying to justify attacking a country that didn't have WMD. This attempt to claim Syria obtained WMD from Iraq is another baseless argument. It presupposes that Syria has to get WMD from some other sources than simply making it themselves. Syria has a population of over 22.5 million people (over 72% of Iraq's population) and it isn't some backward country. Syria has ties with Israel's archenemy Iran and countries like China and Russia. There is a Russian naval base in Syria. Syria has dominated Lebanon for years, until recently turning the job over to Hezbollah, who acts on their behalf and on the behalf of Iran. The only thing you need to make chemical and biological weapons are supplies that are legal to trade to a foreign government. It isn't that hard to set up such a program in a state with the military in control. Syria has the 16th largest active military in the world, which is about as much as France has, though Syria has four and a half times the reserve military as France. The fact that Syria has had chemical and biological weapons has been common knowledge for decades and predates the Iraq War. How do you explain that?

 

[thereisnospoon]

what did he use on the Kurds ??

Exactly.

"Iraqi forces used multiple chemical agents during the attack, including mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX "

To deny that Iraq had chemical weapons is simply foolish!

To point out they had Chemical weapons in 1988 does not mean they had chemical weapons in 2003.

Somewhere in between, you had a supervised destruction of all their chemical weapons stores.

You also had 15 years of crippling sanctions that made it impossible to maintain a WMD Program.

But again- we did not go to war over chemical weapons. We went to war over nuclear and biological weapons Saddam never had.

All of which are baseless assumptions on your part.

 

[g5000]

Exactly.

"Iraqi forces used multiple chemical agents during the attack, including mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX "

To deny that Iraq had chemical weapons is simply foolish!

To point out they had Chemical weapons in 1988 does not mean they had chemical weapons in 2003.

Somewhere in between, you had a supervised destruction of all their chemical weapons stores.

You also had 15 years of crippling sanctions that made it impossible to maintain a WMD Program.

But again- we did not go to war over chemical weapons. We went to war over nuclear and biological weapons Saddam never had.

All of which are baseless assumptions on your part.

Irony!

People are making ignorant attempts to link Syria's sarin to Saddam Hussein! Talk about baseless!!! It's magical wishful thinking.