When Trump asks for more border funding tonight......will Americans trust what he says?

[rightwinger]

This is a case where Trumps credibility will limit his powers as President

In the past, if a President said we were in a crisis, the public would take him at his word

When Trump claims it is a crisis, the public will think.....he is probabaly lying again

RUBBER ROOM.....why can't the OP name a single "lie" Trump has told?

That again?

He lied about seeing thousands of Muslims dancing on rooftops in NJ
He lied about not knowing the man he mocked was disabled
He lied about Melania having a college degree

 

[Asclepias]

Democrats refuse to accept alternative facts regardless of how many times republicans present them

FIrst, both parties lie plenty

Second , it's obvious that you are a Republican parodying a Democrat, kudos

Third, of course anyone can look the figures concerning illegal immigration across the border and the associated costs up for themselves and simply see if DHS is lying or not.

WRONG

Trying to say everyone does it does not justify the sheer magnitude and volume of Trumps lies

To the point where any facts he presents are presumed to be lies

Nor does it allow him to lie to get a wall that the people and congress don't want.

It doesn't allow him to trash our constitution and our laws.

It doesn't justify anything he's doing.

However if a judge rules he can do this, that judge just ruled that a democratic president can do the same thing with global climate change or any other issue any future president chooses.

What trump is doing is blackmail. He's a child throwing a fit because he can't get what he wants. He's lying through his teeth because the people won't back down to his demands.

If the congress gives in, all they're doing is teaching him and future presidents that throwing a childish hissy fit and blackmailing does work. So we will be forced to endure the same behavior the next time trump doesn't get his way.

Especially with Trump

If he finds he can get his way with Congress by shutting down the Government, they will remain on a permanent shut down cycle

You realize, of course, that if Congress would do their damn jobs and pass an actual budget each year this wouldn't be a problem?

They did pass a budget. Drumpf didnt sign it.

 

[DandyDonovan]

FIrst, both parties lie plenty

Second , it's obvious that you are a Republican parodying a Democrat, kudos

Third, of course anyone can look the figures concerning illegal immigration across the border and the associated costs up for themselves and simply see if DHS is lying or not.

WRONG

Trying to say everyone does it does not justify the sheer magnitude and volume of Trumps lies

To the point where any facts he presents are presumed to be lies

Nor does it allow him to lie to get a wall that the people and congress don't want.

It doesn't allow him to trash our constitution and our laws.

It doesn't justify anything he's doing.

However if a judge rules he can do this, that judge just ruled that a democratic president can do the same thing with global climate change or any other issue any future president chooses.

What trump is doing is blackmail. He's a child throwing a fit because he can't get what he wants. He's lying through his teeth because the people won't back down to his demands.

If the congress gives in, all they're doing is teaching him and future presidents that throwing a childish hissy fit and blackmailing does work. So we will be forced to endure the same behavior the next time trump doesn't get his way.

Especially with Trump

If he finds he can get his way with Congress by shutting down the Government, they will remain on a permanent shut down cycle

You realize, of course, that if Congress would do their damn jobs and pass an actual budget each year this wouldn't be a problem?

They did pass a budget. Drumpf didnt sign it.

There you go wallowing in your ignorance again. Congress hasn't passed a budget bill in 7 of the last 8 years . Instead relying on Continuing resolutions to temporarily kick the can down the road .

 

[Asclepias]

WRONG

Trying to say everyone does it does not justify the sheer magnitude and volume of Trumps lies

To the point where any facts he presents are presumed to be lies

Nor does it allow him to lie to get a wall that the people and congress don't want.

It doesn't allow him to trash our constitution and our laws.

It doesn't justify anything he's doing.

However if a judge rules he can do this, that judge just ruled that a democratic president can do the same thing with global climate change or any other issue any future president chooses.

What trump is doing is blackmail. He's a child throwing a fit because he can't get what he wants. He's lying through his teeth because the people won't back down to his demands.

If the congress gives in, all they're doing is teaching him and future presidents that throwing a childish hissy fit and blackmailing does work. So we will be forced to endure the same behavior the next time trump doesn't get his way.

Especially with Trump

If he finds he can get his way with Congress by shutting down the Government, they will remain on a permanent shut down cycle

You realize, of course, that if Congress would do their damn jobs and pass an actual budget each year this wouldn't be a problem?

They did pass a budget. Drumpf didnt sign it.

There you go wallowing in your ignorance again. Congress hasn't passed a budget bill in 7 of the last 8 years . Instead relying on Continuing resolutions to temporarily kick the can down the road .

Trump tells GOP leaders he won’t sign bill to avoid shutdown

 

[Asclepias]

WRONG

Trying to say everyone does it does not justify the sheer magnitude and volume of Trumps lies

To the point where any facts he presents are presumed to be lies

Nor does it allow him to lie to get a wall that the people and congress don't want.

It doesn't allow him to trash our constitution and our laws.

It doesn't justify anything he's doing.

However if a judge rules he can do this, that judge just ruled that a democratic president can do the same thing with global climate change or any other issue any future president chooses.

What trump is doing is blackmail. He's a child throwing a fit because he can't get what he wants. He's lying through his teeth because the people won't back down to his demands.

If the congress gives in, all they're doing is teaching him and future presidents that throwing a childish hissy fit and blackmailing does work. So we will be forced to endure the same behavior the next time trump doesn't get his way.

Especially with Trump

If he finds he can get his way with Congress by shutting down the Government, they will remain on a permanent shut down cycle

You realize, of course, that if Congress would do their damn jobs and pass an actual budget each year this wouldn't be a problem?

They did pass a budget. Drumpf didnt sign it.

There you go wallowing in your ignorance again. Congress hasn't passed a budget bill in 7 of the last 8 years . Instead relying on Continuing resolutions to temporarily kick the can down the road .

I'm guessing being a drumpfbot has rotted your brain. Drumpf failed on his step.

How Does the Federal Government Create a Budget?
There are five key steps in the federal budget process:

1. The President submits a budget request to Congress
2. The House and Senate pass budget resolutions
3. House and Senate Appropriations subcommittees "markup" appropriations bills
4. The House and Senate vote on appropriations bills and reconcile differences
5. The President signs each appropriations bill and the budget becomes law

 

[Dana7360]

Beg to differ but 51% of Americans want the wall and the figure is probably higher than that.

Only idiots like you have no problem with 22 million illegals in the country and the billions they cost we the tax payer.

Oh and I'll bet you have no problem with the drugs that make it across the border each and every day either.

Carry on dickwad.

Sorry. Youre entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to changing the facts.

Most Americans continue to oppose U.S. border wall

LOL You linked to a poll that is almost a year old, and one that began with a completely dishonest question.

Trump isn't talking about building a solid wall along the entire border, but the first question asked specifically says "a solid wall along the entire border"

Also, of course, to consider is the fact that the average American is an idiot.

For example, how stupid do you have to be to believe that the people who voted for a border fence in 2006 and then again in 2013 and then built a wall around their convention in 2016 now suddenly believe that walls are too expensive, don't work, and are immoral?

The answer to that question is very stupid.

Most concrete walls are pretty solid and thats exactly what Drumpf said he wanted to build.

Not across the entire length of the border, he never advocated that and it's a lie to say otherwise.

This poll lied in the very first question. If you were an honest man you would acknowledge that.

Sorry dog. You simply are lying or you are in denial. His words.

" I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words."
-Drumpf

Note. It doesnt say slat fence. It doesnt say part of the border. It says "the border". I dont know what is confusing you about that but dont be such a rube.

It also doesn't say that the American taxpayer would pay for it.

Where's the check from Mexico?

 

[sparky]

Trump is doing it tonight.

I gave up TV a few presidents ago, too much sh*t gets broken in the house.....~S~

 

[DandyDonovan]

Nor does it allow him to lie to get a wall that the people and congress don't want.

It doesn't allow him to trash our constitution and our laws.

It doesn't justify anything he's doing.

However if a judge rules he can do this, that judge just ruled that a democratic president can do the same thing with global climate change or any other issue any future president chooses.

What trump is doing is blackmail. He's a child throwing a fit because he can't get what he wants. He's lying through his teeth because the people won't back down to his demands.

If the congress gives in, all they're doing is teaching him and future presidents that throwing a childish hissy fit and blackmailing does work. So we will be forced to endure the same behavior the next time trump doesn't get his way.

Especially with Trump

If he finds he can get his way with Congress by shutting down the Government, they will remain on a permanent shut down cycle

You realize, of course, that if Congress would do their damn jobs and pass an actual budget each year this wouldn't be a problem?

They did pass a budget. Drumpf didnt sign it.

There you go wallowing in your ignorance again. Congress hasn't passed a budget bill in 7 of the last 8 years . Instead relying on Continuing resolutions to temporarily kick the can down the road .

I'm guessing being a drumpfbot has rotted your brain. Drumpf failed on his step.

How Does the Federal Government Create a Budget?
There are five key steps in the federal budget process:

1. The President submits a budget request to Congress
2. The House and Senate pass budget resolutions
3. House and Senate Appropriations subcommittees "markup" appropriations bills
4. The House and Senate vote on appropriations bills and reconcile differences
5. The President signs each appropriations bill and the budget becomes law

You are not smart

A) Congress is suposed to by law pass a non binding budget each year which outlays an idea of how much money each agency will be allocated

then

B) they are supposed to pass individual bills which appropriate funding to each department etc etc

That's the actual law, but they haven't done that in forever. in 7 of the last 8 years they have NOT passed any form of budget and also they no longer pass individual bills funding individual departments as they are supposed to (Trump's Defense Department bill was actually one of the few times Congress actually followed the law) instead relying on ominbus billss and continuing resolutions because they are dishonest piles of shit but you are either too stupid to understand this or are simply blinded by your hatred of Trump.

I'm sorry that Trump created an economy where even your black ass was expected to get out and find a job, but it is what it is.

If Congress would actually do their jobs they could fund each individual department with individual bills and DHS funding would have nothing to do with Department of Energy funding, or whatever. But see Congress prefers it this way , that way they can hold up an entire government over whatever pork package they want at the time. Can't very well threaten to hold back military spending to get money for roads to nowhere if they are two separate bills now can you?

 

[Asclepias]

For prosperity. Its worse than I thought. He gave the rubes a serious rube job.

 

[Lesh]

When Trump asks for more border funding tonight......will Americans trust what he says?

Why would they? Even Trumpers admit that he's a liar

 

[hazlnut]

I have seen many Presidents appeal to the American people on important issues. Reagan was a master at facing the camera and taking his case directly to the people

Trump is doing it tonight.

Will an American public, accustomed to his constant lies buy in to what he is telling them or will they think it is just Trump being Trump?

The majority of Americans know and have known for some time that he is an inept phony compulsive liar narcissistic sociopath.

I think it's time we stop being tolerant of the willful ignorance of the Trump base. We told them the wall was NEVER going to happen; that it was an idiotic campaign talking point, and to the extent they believe the real 'Fake News' (RW internet and Fox), they do so at their own peril.

We told you so. Okay?

 

[rightwinger]

I have seen many Presidents appeal to the American people on important issues. Reagan was a master at facing the camera and taking his case directly to the people

Trump is doing it tonight.

Will an American public, accustomed to his constant lies buy in to what he is telling them or will they think it is just Trump being Trump?

The majority of Americans know and have known for some time that he is an inept phony compulsive liar narcissistic sociopath.

I think it's time we stop being tolerant of the willful ignorance of the Trump base. We told them the wall was NEVER going to happen; that it was an idiotic campaign talking point, and to the extent they believe the real 'Fake News' (RW internet and Fox), they do so at their own peril.

We told you so. Okay?

Yea.....when he had them chant Mexico was paying....They chanted
When he told them about a concrete wall from sea to sea.....they cheered

Now when he tells them he never promised that....they agree

 

[Cellblock2429]

I have seen many Presidents appeal to the American people on important issues. Reagan was a master at facing the camera and taking his case directly to the people

Trump is doing it tonight.

Will an American public, accustomed to his constant lies buy in to what he is telling them or will they think it is just Trump being Trump?

/----/ Will Americans buy into the democRATs lies that we don't need a wall?
NEW POLL Shows 93% Of Americans Believe Illegal Immigration Is A Problem
A new poll reveals that very few Americans say that illegal immigration is not a problem.

A wide-ranging Economist/YouGov survey gauged the level of concern Americans have on the issue to find that only 7 percent of the overall public say illegal immigration is “not a problem”; 2 percent of Republicans, 7 percent of independents and even 12 percent of Democrats agree with the statement.

Amid non-stop news coverage of the President Trump’s battle to fund a border wall and the Central American caravan, the poll suggests that public worry is pronounced — almost two thirds says illegal immigration is a serious problem, with some predictable partisan divides. Here’s what the survey found:


• 40 percent of Americans overall say illegal immigration in the U.S. is a “very serious problem”; 73 percent of Republicans, 38 percent of independents and 15 percent of Democrats agree.

• 22 percent overall say illegal immigration is a “somewhat serious problem”; 19 percent of Republicans, 21 percent of independents and 26 percent of Democrats agree.

• 24 percent overall say illegal immigration is a “minor problem”; 5 percent of Republicans, 23 percent of independents and 42 percent of Democrats agree.

 

[DandyDonovan]

The only Americans who don't believe illegal immigration is a problem are the very rich who are profiting from it.

The Democrats have became the party of the rich.

 

[Lesh]

The only Americans who don't believe illegal immigration is a problem are the very rich who are profiting from it.

The Democrats have became the party of the rich.

First sentence is 100% right on.

The second is 180 out

 

[Lesh]

• 22 percent overall say illegal immigration is a “somewhat serious problem”; 19 percent of Republicans, 21 percent of independents and 26 percent of Democrats agree.

Put me in that group...but the wall is no solution at all

 

[rightwinger]

I have seen many Presidents appeal to the American people on important issues. Reagan was a master at facing the camera and taking his case directly to the people

Trump is doing it tonight.

Will an American public, accustomed to his constant lies buy in to what he is telling them or will they think it is just Trump being Trump?

/----/ Will Americans buy into the democRATs lies that we don't need a wall?
NEW POLL Shows 93% Of Americans Believe Illegal Immigration Is A Problem
A new poll reveals that very few Americans say that illegal immigration is not a problem.

A wide-ranging Economist/YouGov survey gauged the level of concern Americans have on the issue to find that only 7 percent of the overall public say illegal immigration is “not a problem”; 2 percent of Republicans, 7 percent of independents and even 12 percent of Democrats agree with the statement.

Amid non-stop news coverage of the President Trump’s battle to fund a border wall and the Central American caravan, the poll suggests that public worry is pronounced — almost two thirds says illegal immigration is a serious problem, with some predictable partisan divides. Here’s what the survey found:


• 40 percent of Americans overall say illegal immigration in the U.S. is a “very serious problem”; 73 percent of Republicans, 38 percent of independents and 15 percent of Democrats agree.

• 22 percent overall say illegal immigration is a “somewhat serious problem”; 19 percent of Republicans, 21 percent of independents and 26 percent of Democrats agree.

• 24 percent overall say illegal immigration is a “minor problem”; 5 percent of Republicans, 23 percent of independents and 42 percent of Democrats agree.

We need a wall?
Let Trump prove it without lying.

What has changed radically in the last ten years where suddenly we need a major investment in a wall?

 

[Lesh]

What has changed radically in the last ten years where suddenly we need a major investment in a wall?

Well...there's the fact that illegal immigration has been decreasing...oh wait...that proves the opposite

 

[LilOlLady]

The main issue that he did not lie about is that the border is not secure. Americans are killed and raped by illegal aliens. Illegal aliens are bringing drugs across the border. Thousands waiting at the border in Mexico to get in is not a lie and thousand on their way to the border. What more do you Trump haters want? Armageddon? You will get that is the border is not secured and they flood into the country making us the largest third world country with a population, like China and India with all their problems. Democrats have the welcome mat out.

 

[LilOlLady]

I have seen many Presidents appeal to the American people on important issues. Reagan was a master at facing the camera and taking his case directly to the people

Trump is doing it tonight.

Will an American public, accustomed to his constant lies buy in to what he is telling them or will they think it is just Trump being Trump?

/----/ Will Americans buy into the democRATs lies that we don't need a wall?
NEW POLL Shows 93% Of Americans Believe Illegal Immigration Is A Problem
A new poll reveals that very few Americans say that illegal immigration is not a problem.

A wide-ranging Economist/YouGov survey gauged the level of concern Americans have on the issue to find that only 7 percent of the overall public say illegal immigration is “not a problem”; 2 percent of Republicans, 7 percent of independents and even 12 percent of Democrats agree with the statement.

Amid non-stop news coverage of the President Trump’s battle to fund a border wall and the Central American caravan, the poll suggests that public worry is pronounced — almost two thirds says illegal immigration is a serious problem, with some predictable partisan divides. Here’s what the survey found:


• 40 percent of Americans overall say illegal immigration in the U.S. is a “very serious problem”; 73 percent of Republicans, 38 percent of independents and 15 percent of Democrats agree.

• 22 percent overall say illegal immigration is a “somewhat serious problem”; 19 percent of Republicans, 21 percent of independents and 26 percent of Democrats agree.

• 24 percent overall say illegal immigration is a “minor problem”; 5 percent of Republicans, 23 percent of independents and 42 percent of Democrats agree.

We need a wall?
Let Trump prove it without lying.

What has changed radically in the last ten years where suddenly we need a major investment in a wall?

How about 11 million illegal aliens in the country costing taxpayers risen by nearly $3 billion since 2013, when illegal aliens’ total cost to taxpayers was $113 billion, costing taxpayers $116 billion annually.Only 40% enter as visa overstayers. 60% crossing the border is a crisis.