When The Democrat Party Ceased Being American…

[elektra]

When did Republicans turn against America?

Democrats love this country and fight for Truth, Justice and the American Way.

Republicans are assaulting our Democracy and overthrowing the will of We the People

Of course we assault the democrat's socialism/democracy.

We are a republic.

 

[elektra]

I want We the People to vote without being harassed, disenfranchised and overturned by partisan legislatures

Then you want voter ID. Verified signatures.

 

[Ringtone]

Guess who founded our country?
LIBERALS

It is Conservatives who have turned against the Constitution

LOL! What a disingenuous piece of excrement you are. America was founded by classical liberals. You know damn well that you're not a classical liberal, let alone a Lockean. You've repeatedly expressed your derision for the constructs of natural law, for the sociopolitical ethos on which this nation was founded. American conservatives and libertarians are the classical liberals of the American tradition, not statists bootlicks like you.

 

[rightwinger]

Then you want voter ID. Verified signatures.

Yes I do
A National ID that is given to every American

Not some Hodge Podge of acceptable IDs that are subject to partisan acceptance

Get a National ID and THEN require it to vote

 

[rightwinger]

LOL! What a disingenuous piece of excrement you are. America was founded by classical liberals. You know damn well that you're not a classical liberal, let alone a Lockean. You've repeatedly expressed your derision for the constructs of natural law, for the sociopolitical ethos on which this nation was founded. American conservatives and libertarians are the classical liberals of the American tradition, not statists bootlicks like you.

A Liberal, is a Liberal, is a Liberal

Liberals look at the challenges of society and develop plans to resolve them

Our founders were the greatest Liberals of the day

Conservatives supported the Crown

 

[Kondor3]

...and became a European Party.
Everyone who votes Democrat votes for values and doctrines alien to the founding of America.



1. The 19th Century found the center of learning in Germany. There, the finest institutions of learning, the most progressive....in every sense....theories about education, about governing, about life, and here was where many, especially the aristocrats of every Western nation sent their scions to be educated.

2. Woodrow Wilson learned administration under the tutelage of Richard Ely at Johns Hopkins who had himself studied under European specialists such as Bluntschli at Heidelberg. And the intellectual tradition in which he studied was both Hegelian and historicist. In the ‘Study’, Wilson was quite candid about the novelty of his ideas, confessing that the science of administration ‘is a foreign science, speaking very little the language of English or American principle. . . . It has been developed by French and German professors.’
Woodrow Wilson: The Nation's Worst President III - Behind Blue Lines




3. W.E.B. DuBois was a Socialist and Radical Democrat, who could trace his root to Germany.
DuBois had studied at the University of Berlin, and this itself was the almost universal among early progressives, who envied Bismarck’s welfare state, and Hegel’s philosophy. Hegel introduced a system for understanding the history of philosophy and the world itself, often described as a "progression in which each successive movement emerges as a resolution to the contradictions inherent in the preceding movement"
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel - Wikipedia




4.The source of Progressive ideas was Germany, specifically the philosophy of Hegel, and this euro-thinking placed the ruler above the ruled: Germans have a history of accepting authoritarian rule.

" It was initially an academic phenomenon far removed from American politics. Particularly in the post–Civil War American university, professors — many of whom had obtained their graduate training in German universities, and whose thought reflected the “intoxicating effect of the undiluted Hegelian philosophy upon the American mind,” as progressive Charles Merriam once put it — articulated a critique of America that was as deep as it was wide. It began with a conscious rejection of the natural-rights principles of the American founding and the promotion of a new understanding of freedom, history, and the state in their stead. From this foundation, the progressives then criticized virtually every aspect of our traditional way of life, recommending reforms or “social reorganization” on a sweeping scale, the primary engine of which was to be a new, “positive” role for the state." The Refounding of America | National Review



If you have been tricked into voting Democrat…..didn’t ideas like censorship of free speech, choosing favorites based on their skin color, the demand that all obey the government, and all sorts of mandates,….give you a clue that these are un-American????

This from the party whose power-crazed Orange Demigod tried to stage a coup to overthrow American Representative Democracy on January 6, 2021...

 

[elektra]

Guess who founded our country?
LIBERALS

It is Conservatives who have turned against the Constitution

Liberal definition then, was that of conservatism. Like all words, the democrats change their meaning and hide behind them.

Certainly the Republicans go along

 

[PoliticalChic]

LOL! What a disingenuous piece of excrement you are. America was founded by classical liberals. You know damn well that you're not a classical liberal, let alone a Lockean. You've repeatedly expressed your derision for the constructs of natural law, for the sociopolitical ethos on which this nation was founded. American conservatives and libertarians are the classical liberals of the American tradition, not statists bootlicks like you.

You are far too kind in your assessment of that one.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This from the party whose power-crazed Orange Demigod tried to stage a coup to overthrow American Representative Democracy on January 6, 2021...

Democrats should sue Putin if this happens:

US Says Russia Planned to Fabricate Pretext for Invasion​

https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
14 hours ago — Officials said Russia was planning a fake video showing an attack by Ukrainians on Russian territory or Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine.
'

U.S. alleges Russia may stage fake attack as pretense for Ukraine invasion​

The U.S. said it has intelligence of a Russian plot to stage a fake attack by Ukrainian forces as a pretext for a possible invasion. Holly Williams reports.14H AGO





A fake attack to advance Russia's narrative????????????


They can't do that!!!!!!!!!!


The Democrat Party copywrote that sort of thing on January 6th!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[rightwinger]

Liberal definition then, was that of conservatism. Like all words, the democrats change their meaning and hide behind them.

Certainly the Republicans go along

Actually, there were Conservatives back then
Conservatives supported the Crown

You cannot claim to be both

 

[elektra]

Actually, there were Conservatives back then
Conservatives supported the Crown

You cannot claim to be both

I will share the definition when I get home, off the top of my head does not make for good comments

 

[elektra]

Democrats should sue Putin if this happens:

US Says Russia Planned to Fabricate Pretext for Invasion​

https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
14 hours ago — Officials said Russia was planning a fake video showing an attack by Ukrainians on Russian territory or Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine.
'

U.S. alleges Russia may stage fake attack as pretense for Ukraine invasion​

The U.S. said it has intelligence of a Russian plot to stage a fake attack by Ukrainian forces as a pretext for a possible invasion. Holly Williams reports.14H AGO





A fake attack to advance Russia's narrative????????????


They can't do that!!!!!!!!!!


The Democrat Party copywrote that sort of thing on January 6th!!!!!!!!!!!!

Biden has a fake response ready

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans have realized they can no longer win fair elections

So they have to restrict voting, cause Americans to distrust the election process, pass on lies and misinformation and overturn the will of We the People

When given a choice between defending American values and winning elections, Republicans choose party over country
Republicans are no longer Americans

 

[Oddball]

When did Republicans turn against America?

Democrats love this country and fight for Truth, Justice and the American Way.

Republicans are assaulting our Democracy and overthrowing the will of We the People

Republicans have realized they can no longer win fair elections

So they have to restrict voting, cause Americans to distrust the election process, pass on lies and misinformation and overturn the will of We the People

When given a choice between defending American values and winning elections, Republicans choose party over country
Republicans are no longer Americans

 

[Oddball]

...and became a European Party.
Everyone who votes Democrat votes for values and doctrines alien to the founding of America.



1. The 19th Century found the center of learning in Germany. There, the finest institutions of learning, the most progressive....in every sense....theories about education, about governing, about life, and here was where many, especially the aristocrats of every Western nation sent their scions to be educated.

2. Woodrow Wilson learned administration under the tutelage of Richard Ely at Johns Hopkins who had himself studied under European specialists such as Bluntschli at Heidelberg. And the intellectual tradition in which he studied was both Hegelian and historicist. In the ‘Study’, Wilson was quite candid about the novelty of his ideas, confessing that the science of administration ‘is a foreign science, speaking very little the language of English or American principle. . . . It has been developed by French and German professors.’
Woodrow Wilson: The Nation's Worst President III - Behind Blue Lines




3. W.E.B. DuBois was a Socialist and Radical Democrat, who could trace his root to Germany.
DuBois had studied at the University of Berlin, and this itself was the almost universal among early progressives, who envied Bismarck’s welfare state, and Hegel’s philosophy. Hegel introduced a system for understanding the history of philosophy and the world itself, often described as a "progression in which each successive movement emerges as a resolution to the contradictions inherent in the preceding movement"
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel - Wikipedia




4.The source of Progressive ideas was Germany, specifically the philosophy of Hegel, and this euro-thinking placed the ruler above the ruled: Germans have a history of accepting authoritarian rule.

" It was initially an academic phenomenon far removed from American politics. Particularly in the post–Civil War American university, professors — many of whom had obtained their graduate training in German universities, and whose thought reflected the “intoxicating effect of the undiluted Hegelian philosophy upon the American mind,” as progressive Charles Merriam once put it — articulated a critique of America that was as deep as it was wide. It began with a conscious rejection of the natural-rights principles of the American founding and the promotion of a new understanding of freedom, history, and the state in their stead. From this foundation, the progressives then criticized virtually every aspect of our traditional way of life, recommending reforms or “social reorganization” on a sweeping scale, the primary engine of which was to be a new, “positive” role for the state." The Refounding of America | National Review



If you have been tricked into voting Democrat…..didn’t ideas like censorship of free speech, choosing favorites based on their skin color, the demand that all obey the government, and all sorts of mandates,….give you a clue that these are un-American????

Wilson was already my educated guess....Thanks for the refresher course.

 

[Oddball]

Problem being that the GOP had been co-opted by the TR progressives too.

Outside of Harding and Coolidge, the whole remocrat vs. depublican thing has amounted to little more than pro rasslin', with worse choreography.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Problem being that the GOP had been co-opted by the TR progressives too.

Outside of Harding and Coolidge, the whole remocrat vs. depublican thing has amounted to little more than pro rasslin', with worse choreography.

Conservatives are pretty much political orphans.


But.....I do have my Pessimist's Club......

 

[GMCGeneral]

I want We the People to vote without being harassed, disenfranchised and overturned by partisan legislatures

IOW sham "elections" where there is only one party choice available. Just like in every Communist regime and turd world shithole like Iraq.

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. The Progressives/Liberals began mid-19th century in academia, based on what was the contemporary intelligentsia: German and/or those who studied in Germany.

' Hegel introduced a system for understanding the history of philosophy and the world itself, often described as a "progression in which each successive movement emerges as a resolution to the contradictions inherent in the preceding movement.'
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel - Wikipedia


The Germans have a history of embracing authoritarian rule. As the German philosopher Hegel said, “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”(Ralf Dahrendorf, Society and Democracy in Germany).

“Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz,” the common good supersedes the private good. (quoted in Meinecke 1950, p. 51); cf. the 1920 Nazi Program.


No matter whose face they put at the top of the party, its policies are far from those of America’s founding.

 

[elektra]

Republicans have realized they can no longer win fair elections

So they have to restrict voting, cause Americans to distrust the election process, pass on lies and misinformation and overturn the will of We the People

When given a choice between defending American values and winning elections, Republicans choose party over country
Republicans are no longer Americans

Yet, it is the democrats giving our technology, factories, and jobs to China.

I guess, we just don't agree that the United nations and China should rule the USA.

Certainly with the democrats bringing millions of illegal aliens into the USA we are not a part of that vision of America democrats promote.

Democrat's dream of a future that is not America. You should pick a new name for your dream.