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Presuming SHTF means a breakdown in law and order I believe close-range defensive weapons would be an individual's most logical choice. And because I believe high-capacity automatic weapons have their place I would not choose the AA-12 shotgun as a primary weapon.
While the AA-12 auto shotgun seems to be a good weapon to have on hand to repel a major frontal attack, the ordinary individual's concerns would be considerably less threatening. So my personal choices would be a pump shotgun with extended magazine and a .357 magnum revolver (I don't like automatic pistols).
I think to act like a tough guy, big gun, small p***, people need to put this in real perspective. Is there a reason to not think about reality? Seems as valid a point as what weapon would I would use to do "
"something" should the SHTF!!
Typical libtard response. My penis is very average and I have no need to compensate for it. You insult gun owners and yet you are so blissfully ignorant of what you speak that you automatically resort to insults because it is YOU who is insecure.
I think to act like a tough guy, big gun, small p***, people need to put this in real perspective. Is there a reason to not think about reality? Seems as valid a point as what weapon would I would use to do "
"something" should the SHTF!!
Perhaps you see someone with a gun as a "tough guy". I do not have guns to make me tough or cool, and it has nothing to do with the size of my genitalia. The suggestion that is does shows you to be petty and uninterested in the facts of the discussion. Unfortunately you will have to find another thread to boost you ego. On this one you failed miserably.
Do you think there is no chance that our society will fold up? You are absolutely sure it will continue? And that there is no chance of major collapse or disaster? If so, you are either delusional or need to be on meds.
Surviving is reality. Some people choose to rely on others to get them thru a crisis. Some have seen the folly in that.
I have fire extinguishers, but I have never had a fire in my house. The same rational applies to my preparedness for when the SHTF.
The discussion is based on delusions of fear and insanity and I need to be on meds? WOW. When is the last time you have had to survive? This proves the point. We all sit in our privileged gated communities discussing how we will tough up when the need arises. Talk about delusional. Give me one example that our entitled society is imploding? Real examples, no nut house propaganda!!
Oh, you poor little puppy. I hope you don't live in a metropolitan area when a natural disaster hits....
Shikaki, let me ask you a question.
Why would you care of people were setting aside some of what they have in preparation for when the SHTF? You joined our discussion, so why does it bother you that we are having such a discussion?
Got it... But in each case it was the government that maintained order, not the citizens..
These people are so hilarious. When the shit hits the fan? You're all sufferening from paranoid delusions. You're as nutty as Charles Manson thinking the US was on the brink of civil war between blacks and whites.
Shikaki, let me ask you a question.
Why would you care of people were setting aside some of what they have in preparation for when the SHTF? You joined our discussion, so why does it bother you that we are having such a discussion?
Not everyone that has weapons is sane. To assume that everyone has the ability to maintain rational common sense while the SHTF is a bit a scary. I know, if I have my weapons then I can protect myself from the insane, but there are many factors in that conclusion. Even though the US has the best military in the world, there are many US soldiers coming back in wooden coffins. They all had weapons and they all knew how to use them.
Not everyone that has weapons is sane. To assume that everyone has the ability to maintain rational common sense while the SHTF is a bit a scary. I know, if I have my weapons then I can protect myself from the insane, but there are many factors in that conclusion. Even though the US has the best military in the world, there are many US soldiers coming back in wooden coffins. They all had weapons and they all knew how to use them.
No, not everyone will be sane and some of those insane people will have guns. But that will be true whether the people on this thread discuss and prepare or not. So, rather than make demeaning remarks, why not suggest allowances for lunatics?
There are many, many factors in surviving a major upheaval. Many people will not survive due to violence, lack of food or other obvious hazards. Many more will not survive because of their mindset and their inability to adapt. It would seem to me that these people are the ones you are talking about. And discussions like these would help avoid becoming one of them, or at the very least, dealing with them.
No, not everyone will be sane and some of those insane people will have guns. But that will be true whether the people on this thread discuss and prepare or not. So, rather than make demeaning remarks, why not suggest allowances for lunatics?
If allowances were possible then that would have prevented such things as Sandy Hook, Aurora, Columbine, etc... Score....Crazies 40+ to Sane 0.
There are many, many factors in surviving a major upheaval. Many people will not survive due to violence, lack of food or other obvious hazards. Many more will not survive because of their mindset and their inability to adapt. It would seem to me that these people are the ones you are talking about. And discussions like these would help avoid becoming one of them, or at the very least, dealing with them.
I understand that this is just a fantasy about favorite weapon, but to your point, there is a real component to this, which is what my initial question was trying to raise awareness too.
For weapon of choice, how do you accommodate someone having a "bigger" one? You bring a desert eagle, they bring a m1, you bring a ak47, they bring a tank?
No, not everyone will be sane and some of those insane people will have guns. But that will be true whether the people on this thread discuss and prepare or not. So, rather than make demeaning remarks, why not suggest allowances for lunatics?
If allowances were possible then that would have prevented such things as Sandy Hook, Aurora, Columbine, etc... Score....Crazies 40+ to Sane 0.
There are many, many factors in surviving a major upheaval. Many people will not survive due to violence, lack of food or other obvious hazards. Many more will not survive because of their mindset and their inability to adapt. It would seem to me that these people are the ones you are talking about. And discussions like these would help avoid becoming one of them, or at the very least, dealing with them.
I understand that this is just a fantasy about favorite weapon, but to your point, there is a real component to this, which is what my initial question was trying to raise awareness too.
For weapon of choice, how do you accommodate someone having a "bigger" one? You bring a desert eagle, they bring a m1, you bring a ak47, they bring a tank?
Not all are interested in having the biggest or the newest. Yes, the OP limited choices to some very modern, very big guns. Subsequent posts listed very different firearms and the reason for them. For every time I, and those like me, like our older less "glamorous" weapons in discussions, some neophyte reads it and gains knowledge from it.
I understand that there is a very real component to this. I genuinely do have some items put aside for a variety of reasons. And actually own an old Remington 870 12 gauge shotgun that I have customized with some aftermarket parts. I really do own a Springfield M1911 .45ACP. I really do believe these two firearms would serve me well when the SHTF. I would not throw away the other guns I own. But these two are the "go to" guns.
Presuming SHTF means a breakdown in law and order I believe close-range defensive weapons would be an individual's most logical choice. And because I believe high-capacity automatic weapons have their place I would not choose the AA-12 shotgun as a primary weapon.
While the AA-12 auto shotgun seems to be a good weapon to have on hand to repel a major frontal attack, the ordinary individual's concerns would be considerably less threatening. So my personal choices would be a pump shotgun with extended magazine and a .357 magnum revolver (I don't like automatic pistols).
I think to act like a tough guy, big gun, small p***, people need to put this in real perspective. Is there a reason to not think about reality? Seems as valid a point as what weapon would I would use to do "
"something" should the SHTF!!
Perhaps you see someone with a gun as a "tough guy". I do not have guns to make me tough or cool, and it has nothing to do with the size of my genitalia. The suggestion that is does shows you to be petty and uninterested in the facts of the discussion. Unfortunately you will have to find another thread to boost you ego. On this one you failed miserably.
Do you think there is no chance that our society will fold up? You are absolutely sure it will continue? And that there is no chance of major collapse or disaster? If so, you are either delusional or need to be on meds.
Surviving is reality. Some people choose to rely on others to get them thru a crisis. Some have seen the folly in that.
I have fire extinguishers, but I have never had a fire in my house. The same rational applies to my preparedness for when the SHTF.
The discussion is based on delusions of fear and insanity and I need to be on meds? WOW. When is the last time you have had to survive? This proves the point. We all sit in our privileged gated communities discussing how we will tough up when the need arises. Talk about delusional. Give me one example that our entitled society is imploding? Real examples, no nut house propaganda!!
Shikaki, let me ask you a question.
Why would you care of people were setting aside some of what they have in preparation for when the SHTF? You joined our discussion, so why does it bother you that we are having such a discussion?
Shikaki, let me ask you a question.
Why would you care of people were setting aside some of what they have in preparation for when the SHTF? You joined our discussion, so why does it bother you that we are having such a discussion?
I think I can answer that more truthfully then he will.
It's no different then the jealousy of the left and money. Someone else has more of it,so it cant possibly be fair.
And of course if the SHTF they would become totally defenseless ...and that scares them.
Shikaki, let me ask you a question.
Why would you care of people were setting aside some of what they have in preparation for when the SHTF? You joined our discussion, so why does it bother you that we are having such a discussion?
I think I can answer that more truthfully then he will.
It's no different then the jealousy of the left and money. Someone else has more of it,so it cant possibly be fair.
And of course if the SHTF they would become totally defenseless ...and that scares them.
Believe I already answered his question.. Hopefully you read...
For the record, I'm far from defenseless. Never remembered stating my political affiliation. And I thought this sort of board was about stimulating the noodle. If by not agreeing with all comments means I'm a liberal, then not sure how to respond to that. Sorry that drooling seems better than thinking!! Didn't realize that if you are conservative, that meant you had to be conservative about all issues.
