When it comes to red state poverty, how do republicans explain it?

[PurpleOwl]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

your not going to get anything besides "we blame the liberals"

And the far left is only going to blame others and not themselves!

It is the far left way!

see what i mean

 

[Billy000]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

Hollywood can't AFFORD to produce films in America. You look at the credits and it reads like a world phone book. So only money is created as "an economy" there anymore. Of course, Cali rising poverty is based on liberal policies. They've CATERED to the illegal immigrant demographic. ENCOURAGED the growth of their own "cheap labor" force. They are worse than China in that regard. Adopting ESL standards for the schools which force other middle/upper class people to leave public schools. Standards that HURT immigrant children trying to RISE in the labor force in their country..

I've seen enough of the leftist folly out there. Middle/Upper people are fleeing. Only a matter of time.

lol oh so Hollywood is broke huh? That's even though it's one of the biggest economies in the world? Higher taxes hasnt changed that.!

 

[ScienceRocks]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

Hollywood can't AFFORD to produce films in America. You look at the credits and it reads like a world phone book. So only money is created as "an economy" there anymore. Of course, Cali rising poverty is based on liberal policies. They've CATERED to the illegal immigrant demographic. ENCOURAGED the growth of their own "cheap labor" force. They are worse than China in that regard. Adopting ESL standards for the schools which force other middle/upper class people to leave public schools. Standards that HURT immigrant children trying to RISE in the labor force in their country..

I've seen enough of the leftist folly out there. Middle/Upper people are fleeing. Only a matter of time.

Well since the far left wants the illegal here, why not annex Mexico?

Mexico has tons of natural resources and our regulations and laws would bring it up to our standards fairly quickly.

 

[Kosh]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

your not going to get anything besides "we blame the liberals"

And the far left is only going to blame others and not themselves!

It is the far left way!

see what i mean

Yes you have just proven my comments!

Thanks!

 

[ScienceRocks]

Socialism is a "new idea"?

newer than slavery? which is what you confederate hillfolk want

Says the far left drone that promotes political slavery!

The far left wants the people enslaved to government!

And you want everyone enslaved to corporations and the side of the street!

 

[PurpleOwl]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

your not going to get anything besides "we blame the liberals"

And the far left is only going to blame others and not themselves!

It is the far left way!

see what i mean

Yes you have just proven my comments!

Thanks!

your welcome

 

[Rustic]

Granted, liberal policies don't always work. Some socialist programs fail. Of course we know many are also successful. That's why not every blue state is equally thriving. At least progressives try out NEW ideas. Republicans just do the same shit over and over without ever trying new ideas.

The thing about red state economics is their philosophy on government: less government and more capitalism. The thing about ReaganEconomics is that, yes, top executives do make more money through the tax cuts, but that doesn't mean they give a shit about investing more in the wages of their workers. They just keep and pocket most of the money they save with tax cuts because, why not? It's a simple decision. They ask: what is the bare minimum in making their low-end job positions popular?

My point is that even though blue states have mixed results with economic experimentation, red state poverty is a constant. Mississippi, for instance, is the economic shithole of America even though taxes on the wealthy are low.

When it comes to economic prosperity, the solution is investing in consumers I.e. Demand-side economics. Give them tax breaks - not people already wealthy. They can easily handle tax hikes. From there, the poor and middle class will become bigger consumers thus businesses will thrive as a result. Everyone is happy that way

**** Keynesian economics, They have never worked... ever.
I don't want anyone else paying for my shit no matter how much or little I make, only ******* deadbeat motherfuckers want other peoples money. Envy is the lifeblood of progressive shit bags like yourself…

 

[Kosh]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

Hollywood can't AFFORD to produce films in America. You look at the credits and it reads like a world phone book. So only money is created as "an economy" there anymore. Of course, Cali rising poverty is based on liberal policies. They've CATERED to the illegal immigrant demographic. ENCOURAGED the growth of their own "cheap labor" force. They are worse than China in that regard. Adopting ESL standards for the schools which force other middle/upper class people to leave public schools. Standards that HURT immigrant children trying to RISE in the labor force in their country..

I've seen enough of the leftist folly out there. Middle/Upper people are fleeing. Only a matter of time.

lol oh so Hollywood is broke huh? That's even though it's one of the biggest economies in the world? Higher taxes hasnt changed that.!

Yes that is why block buster movies are filed outside the US like Star Wars,,

Just like Michael Moore did not use union workers for his fiction films..

Many TV shows at filmed in Toronto Canada as it is cheaper for them to do so.

It has nothing to do with Hollywood being broke, that is a debunked far left religious narrative.

Silly far left drone!

 

[Kosh]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

Hollywood can't AFFORD to produce films in America. You look at the credits and it reads like a world phone book. So only money is created as "an economy" there anymore. Of course, Cali rising poverty is based on liberal policies. They've CATERED to the illegal immigrant demographic. ENCOURAGED the growth of their own "cheap labor" force. They are worse than China in that regard. Adopting ESL standards for the schools which force other middle/upper class people to leave public schools. Standards that HURT immigrant children trying to RISE in the labor force in their country..

I've seen enough of the leftist folly out there. Middle/Upper people are fleeing. Only a matter of time.

Well since the far left wants the illegal here, why not annex Mexico?

Mexico has tons of natural resources and our regulations and laws would bring it up to our standards fairly quickly.

No I say we let the far left move to Mexico and run it however they want!

 

[SmokeALib]

Thread is irrelevant. Move on.

 

[flacaltenn]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

Hollywood can't AFFORD to produce films in America. You look at the credits and it reads like a world phone book. So only money is created as "an economy" there anymore. Of course, Cali rising poverty is based on liberal policies. They've CATERED to the illegal immigrant demographic. ENCOURAGED the growth of their own "cheap labor" force. They are worse than China in that regard. Adopting ESL standards for the schools which force other middle/upper class people to leave public schools. Standards that HURT immigrant children trying to RISE in the labor force in their country..

I've seen enough of the leftist folly out there. Middle/Upper people are fleeing. Only a matter of time.

lol oh so Hollywood is broke huh? That's even though it's one of the biggest economies in the world? Higher taxes hasnt changed that.!

Point went right over your head. Hollywood ONLY contributes to the incomes of a small cadre of folks. Doesn't contribute to the economy as it used to. So you have to SOAK that small group for the majority of taxable income. Cali is NOT a business friendly economy to ANY company. And they are flirting with "wealth gap" in that Socialist paradise LARGER than any other place in the nation BECAUSE of their leftist policies.. It is EXHIBIT A -- the leftist policies CONTRIBUTE to increasing wealth gaps -- not improve them..

The "wealth resentment" got so bad in San Francisco when the Social Media companies moved into the south end of the city. Taking over middle class/ working poor neighborhoods. Cars were routinely gutted and keyed. Businesses vandalized. Without much sympathy from the Commie leadership. They are looking at end times for these "wealth gap" policies out there. They've fucked it up to the point of armed class warfare in the near future.

We left when roaming bands of "new" immigrant kids routinely walked over the hood of my wife's car while doing car pool duties. They were not the nice industrial type that were coming for ages before that we welcomed. PERMISSIVENESS and disdain for business is gonna fry them soon.

 

[PurpleOwl]

Thread is irrelevant. Move on.

so go start another race baiting thread about mexicans

 

[flacaltenn]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

Hollywood can't AFFORD to produce films in America. You look at the credits and it reads like a world phone book. So only money is created as "an economy" there anymore. Of course, Cali rising poverty is based on liberal policies. They've CATERED to the illegal immigrant demographic. ENCOURAGED the growth of their own "cheap labor" force. They are worse than China in that regard. Adopting ESL standards for the schools which force other middle/upper class people to leave public schools. Standards that HURT immigrant children trying to RISE in the labor force in their country..

I've seen enough of the leftist folly out there. Middle/Upper people are fleeing. Only a matter of time.

Well since the far left wants the illegal here, why not annex Mexico?

Mexico has tons of natural resources and our regulations and laws would bring it up to our standards fairly quickly.

Sure.. Sure Except the control of the Drug Cartels. And the world class cronyism in the GOVT OWNED oil companies and other Socialist ventures that end up cesspools of govt corruption and scam artistry...

Having the govt OWN competing ventures to private corporations is like a MAGNET for graft, corruption and patronage.

 

[Kosh]

There are a LOT of good reasons. One of the best is that you aren't looking at the whole picture.

Fool’s Gold: California Has The Highest Poverty Rate In The United States

According to the Census Bureau, nearly one-fourth (23.8 percent, up from a 20-year low of 12 percent in 2006,) of California's 38-million people live below the poverty line – with Latinos, now the state's single largest ethnic group, bearing the brunt of such deprivation. According to the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), at least 6-million households in the state live with incomes below the federal poverty level (about $23,000 for a family of four). Poverty rates are extremely high not only for Latinos, but also African-Americans and those lacking in college diplomas. Reportedly, 5 million Latinos (one-third of their total number) are living in poverty in the state.

When I left Cali in 2005, the state income was so overweighted to soak "the rich" that LITERALLY just 40,000 residents were paying 12% of the total Cali Income tax. Many in the top quintile have fled. Like me for instance.

Another factor is Red states like Tenn are getting huge influxes of Blue state retirees.. Who have fucked up their states so badly, they simply can't afford to retire in them anymore.

I'm not a Republican, but I DO know -- I prefer the lean, efficient, responsible govt in Tenn to the clown circus in the Cali.. You can brag about concentrations of industry and business for a FEW more years, and then the jig is pretty much up.. My small town in Tenn has stolen 4 major companies from Cali since I moved here. And it's so pleasant, some of my neighbors COMMUTE out of state for work, but prefer to live here. We're just fine WITHOUT your concern.

And even tho you have TOO many topics in OP -- the "trickle up" consumer demand stuff simply doesn't work like it use to 20 or 30 years ago. USED to be you give away money to consumers and the factories would rev up, hire folks and create expansion. You do that "trick" now, and the ONLY THING that happens is more Chinese giant freighters arrive in Long Beach with the goods and they go directly to Amazon..

A critical takeaway from your article that you are missing is that Cali's poverty rate isn't based on liberal policies. It's because of a few different factors. One of those being the lucrative Hollywood industry. A mega industry like that will involve minimizing labor costs for the sake of profit. That means lower wages for people. This also causes an increase in the cost of housing. You aren't going to see a drastic change in price within a 10 miles of the Malibu neighborhood in cost of housing. That makes the entire city of LA high in standard of living. That also happens to be where a large percentage of total Cali population.

Despite the income inequality in Cali, the tax rates on the wealthy are higher in comparison to other states.

Hollywood can't AFFORD to produce films in America. You look at the credits and it reads like a world phone book. So only money is created as "an economy" there anymore. Of course, Cali rising poverty is based on liberal policies. They've CATERED to the illegal immigrant demographic. ENCOURAGED the growth of their own "cheap labor" force. They are worse than China in that regard. Adopting ESL standards for the schools which force other middle/upper class people to leave public schools. Standards that HURT immigrant children trying to RISE in the labor force in their country..

I've seen enough of the leftist folly out there. Middle/Upper people are fleeing. Only a matter of time.

Well since the far left wants the illegal here, why not annex Mexico?

Mexico has tons of natural resources and our regulations and laws would bring it up to our standards fairly quickly.

Sure.. Sure Except the control of the Drug Cartels. And the world class cronyism in the GOVT OWNED oil companies and other Socialist ventures that end up cesspools of govt corruption and scam artistry...

Having the govt OWN competing ventures to private corporations is like a MAGNET for graft, corruption and patronage.

Sounds like the far left utopia that they want the US to be!

So instead of those going to Canada, how about they go to Mexico!

Since the far left wants to apply the Constitution to illegals, why not apply the Sixteenth Amendment to Mexico!

 

[frigidweirdo]

When will you loons stop trying to repackage the same old crap?

How many Venezuala's will it take?

Or Zimbabwes? I mean, Zimbabwe isn't a Socialist state, it's a capitalist one, run by a right wing dictator.

 

[Kosh]

When will you loons stop trying to repackage the same old crap?

How many Venezuala's will it take?

Or Zimbabwes? I mean, Zimbabwe isn't a Socialist state, it's a capitalist one, run by a right wing dictator.

Zimbabwe was born after a long and bloody liberation war. The Zimbabwe African National Union (ZANU), one of two socialist-oriented national liberation movements, won the country's first elections.

See how the far left drones get it wrong every time!

 

[Boss]

Granted, liberal policies don't always work. Some socialist programs fail. Of course we know many are also successful. That's why not every blue state is equally thriving. At least progressives try out NEW ideas. Republicans just do the same shit over and over without ever trying new ideas.

The thing about red state economics is their philosophy on government: less government and more capitalism. The thing about ReaganEconomics is that, yes, top executives do make more money through the tax cuts, but that doesn't mean they give a shit about investing more in the wages of their workers. They just keep and pocket most of the money they save with tax cuts because, why not? It's a simple decision. They ask: what is the bare minimum in making their low-end job positions popular?

My point is that even though blue states have mixed results with economic experimentation, red state poverty is a constant. Mississippi, for instance, is the economic shithole of America even though taxes on the wealthy are low.

When it comes to economic prosperity, the solution is investing in consumers I.e. Demand-side economics. Give them tax breaks - not people already wealthy. They can easily handle tax hikes. From there, the poor and middle class will become bigger consumers thus businesses will thrive as a result. Everyone is happy that way

Don't know if you realized this but Federal policies implemented from Washington are not made optional to the States. Red states don't have the option to refuse implementation of these programs, whether we like them or not, we have to adhere to Federal laws and mandates.

Now you make a LOT of false assumptions here. Just because a state is red or the people tend to vote Republican, doesn't mean they don't support programs which assist those in poverty. In fact, one of the reasons the Tea Party came into existence was because of the progressive policies of George W. Bush... namely, Medicare Part B (Pill Bill) and No Child Left Behind. Trump is proposing nationalized child care. So there are certainly programs being implemented by progressive "red state" republicans.

Someone needs to turn this question back around on you and ask why we're still having such a huge problem with poverty in this country after over 80 years of progressive policies? Obviously, you programs haven't fixed the problem!

All we EVER hear out of you is more of the same shit... Raise Taxes! Spend More! Raise Taxes! Gut the Military! Raise Taxes! More Entitlements! Raise Taxes! You never stop to look at the results of your insanity... just keep on, over and over, repeating the same mindless nonsense!

It is a proven fact of life that when you tax anything, less of it is produced. So whenever you tax high income, less high income is the result. This is why, when Reagan lowered the top marginal tax rates he increased the tax revenues by 75%. I know this doesn't compute with idiot lefties because your mind lives in a static vacuum where nothing ever changes. In reality, lower taxes on top marginal income results in more investment which creates more jobs... i.e.; taxpayers. When you have MORE taxpayers, the tax revenues will increase, even though you've lowered the tax rate. This isn't rhetoric, it can be confirmed at the US Treasury Dept. website.

So why do we want to raise taxes and reduce our tax revenues? How does that help anyone? And speaking of help.. how does it "help" someone to enable them to remain in the impoverished lives they have? Do you think an extra $20 to a welfare family is going to lift them from poverty? It hasn't so far and we've been trying this for a half a century. Why not try something different? You're a progressive, why not progress beyond your same old tried and failed policies? How about something to motivate and empower those at the bottom? Instead of lobbying for a few more crumbs to toss at them, why not encourage them to get off their asses and go to work? How about instead of reinforcing the victim mentality, reinforce the message that anyone can succeed if they put forth the effort?

I'll tell you why... because deep down, you don't want poor people to succeed because they won't need you anymore. You had rather keep them imprisoned in poverty so you can depend on their votes for your political power. Then, you can shake down capitalists so that your elitist political leaders can live like kings while spewing the same fucked-in-the-head nonsense they've spewed for decades.

See these are the posts that really give me pause about you folk. You put so much effort into demonizing democratic policies, that you make no effort in defending republican policies. This is probably because deep down you know the Republican Party is a joke that does nothing to help the middle class or poor.

Christ we both know that in Bush's final months, the economy was in the start of a shitstorm where we were losing 100,000s jobs per month. This Recession of course ended 6 months into Obama's presidency and we have had job growth EVER SINCE. Can Bush say that? **** no. We had two recessions under him in total. Obama has presided over the longest stretch of job growth. His stimulus package alone is credited with creating up to 3.3 million private jobs according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Now is the economy under Obama perfecr? No. It has some flaws like the labor participation rate. But, of course, like always that statistic includes retirement, voluntary house spouses, and the disabled.

How can Obama fix the economy when Repubs in office try to obstruct everything he puts forth? Progressive policies work if they are of undermined by GOPers in the legislative branch.

Typical leftist nonsense as usual. You're too stupid to understand how the economy works. You think that Obama's presence in the Oval Office somehow managed to spark economic prosperity because he spent $2 trillion on nothingness. You don't have a clue that ANY economic growth we may have had was the result of massive stimulus programs and three levels of "quantitative easing" that we simply can't perpetually do. No telling how much damage this man has done to the American dollar. He has single-handedly doubled our national debt. Any jobs he may have created are part time jobs at minimum wage or government jobs we can't afford.... gone are the manufacturing jobs we once had which supported most of middle class working Americans. Decimated are the small businesses across America who had to deal with his fucked up Marxist policies.

I predicted, when Obama won in 2008, that before all was said and done, we'd all be standing around like hobos at the burning barrel eating shit sandwiches and you libtards would be telling us how great it is that we can all be huddled for a meal together and to stay warm! Damn if I wasn't pretty ******* close! I'll further predict, inside 6 weeks of Trump taking office, all you or your fake media will be squawking about will be how bad the economy is and you won't shut up until Trump leaves office.

 

[owebo]

Granted, liberal policies don't always work. Some socialist programs fail. Of course we know many are also successful. That's why not every blue state is equally thriving. At least progressives try out NEW ideas. Republicans just do the same shit over and over without ever trying new ideas.

The thing about red state economics is their philosophy on government: less government and more capitalism. The thing about ReaganEconomics is that, yes, top executives do make more money through the tax cuts, but that doesn't mean they give a shit about investing more in the wages of their workers. They just keep and pocket most of the money they save with tax cuts because, why not? It's a simple decision. They ask: what is the bare minimum in making their low-end job positions popular?

My point is that even though blue states have mixed results with economic experimentation, red state poverty is a constant. Mississippi, for instance, is the economic shithole of America even though taxes on the wealthy are low.

When it comes to economic prosperity, the solution is investing in consumers I.e. Demand-side economics. Give them tax breaks - not people already wealthy. They can easily handle tax hikes. From there, the poor and middle class will become bigger consumers thus businesses will thrive as a result. Everyone is happy that way

Democrats forcing it upon people....

 

[FJO]

This shit has been blown out of the water so many times. Because the statistics are always based on Presidential voting and no other factors. AKA a grand caca aka total bullshit .

Can't you come up with new material?

There's noting to it. Rightwing policies don't work, hence the abject poverty in, especially rural areas, despite the fact that they are, and have been, governed by Republicans for decades.

You just don't like the answer, therefore you play stupid, and/or try to obfuscate and run away from the subject.

There is nothing to it.Left wing policies don't work, hence the abject poverty, crime, drug trafficking and murder, especially in inner city slums, despite the fact that they are and have been governed by Democrats for decades.

There, fixed it for you.

 

[Wyatt earp]

This shit has been blown out of the water so many times. Because the statistics are always based on Presidential voting and no other factors. AKA a grand caca aka total bullshit .

Can't you come up with new material?

There's noting to it. Rightwing policies don't work, hence the abject poverty in, especially rural areas, despite the fact that they are, and have been, governed by Republicans for decades.

You just don't like the answer, therefore you play stupid, and/or try to obfuscate and run away from the subject.

You are an uneducated ignorant **** are you not?