CDZ When has bearing arms helped?

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.
The people of Hong Kong wish they had a 2nd Amendment right now.

The Hong Kong People won without firing a single shot.
 
In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.
The people of Hong Kong wish they had a 2nd Amendment right now.

The Hong Kong People won without firing a single shot.
How many did the government main cripple kill and arrest?
 
In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.
The people of Hong Kong wish they had a 2nd Amendment right now.

The Hong Kong People won without firing a single shot.
How many did the government main cripple kill and arrest?
And let’s not bring up Tiananmen Square and the roundups after.
 
In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.
The people of Hong Kong wish they had a 2nd Amendment right now.

The Hong Kong People won without firing a single shot.


that fight is far from over,,,
 
In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.
Have you been made to look foolish enough yet, or do you need more?

Be careful. We're in the CDZ here Mike.

I'm thanking the good responses.
 
Bloods and Crips street gangs threatened to begin murdering LE personnel in LA after some cops beat charges of murdering an unarmed black guy. Almost immediately two probation officers were shot down and killed in a drive-by shooting. LA police made policy changes, fast, because they knew gangs were heavily armed and had access to any kind of weapons they wanted or thought they needed. Plus, ambushing cops in an urban setting is easy and takes very little training.
 
Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.
Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed
the fact we still have a republic is proof the 2nd is needed, and as we see in todays political climate the 2nd is the only reason we have the 1st and are still able to vote
It proves we have never needed a second amendment to defend our republic in over 200 years

The first amendment and the vote is what defends our liberty......not guns
 
In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.
The people of Hong Kong wish they had a 2nd Amendment right now.

The Hong Kong People won without firing a single shot.

So did MLK and the Civil Rights movement
 
Here is one time when arms were used to overthrow tyranny. The government failed the people and they did what the Second was meant to do.


 
Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.
Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed
the fact we still have a republic is proof the 2nd is needed, and as we see in todays political climate the 2nd is the only reason we have the 1st and are still able to vote
It proves we have never needed a second amendment to defend our republic in over 200 years

The first amendment and the vote is what defends our liberty......not guns
you keep telling yourself that and leave the rest of us alone,,,,
 
Here is one time when arms were used to overthrow tyranny. The government failed the people and they did what the Second was meant to do.




They did not use arms to overthrow tyranny. They got pissed off and went to their guns and were allowed to get away with it

NOTHING says using legal recourse and the vote would not have gotten the same result.
 
Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.
Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed
the fact we still have a republic is proof the 2nd is needed, and as we see in todays political climate the 2nd is the only reason we have the 1st and are still able to vote
It proves we have never needed a second amendment to defend our republic in over 200 years

The first amendment and the vote is what defends our liberty......not guns
you keep telling yourself that and leave the rest of us alone,,,,
Prove me wrong
 
In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.
The people of Hong Kong wish they had a 2nd Amendment right now.

The Hong Kong People won without firing a single shot.

So did MLK and the Civil Rights movement
Because we had guns.

How’d human rights protests work out in Nazi Germany, USSR, Cambodia, etc etc?
 
Here is one time when arms were used to overthrow tyranny. The government failed the people and they did what the Second was meant to do.




They did not use arms to overthrow tyranny. They got pissed off and went to their guns and were allowed to get away with it

NOTHING says using legal recourse and the vote would not have gotten the same result.

Graduate of the Soros school of history I see.
 
Here is one time when arms were used to overthrow tyranny. The government failed the people and they did what the Second was meant to do.




They did not use arms to overthrow tyranny. They got pissed off and went to their guns and were allowed to get away with it

NOTHING says using legal recourse and the vote would not have gotten the same result.

Graduate of the Soros school of history I see.

The Battle of Athens was a completely unnecessary use of violence

Peaceful protest, the media, the courts would have gained the same objectives.......like real Americans use
 
Here is one time when arms were used to overthrow tyranny. The government failed the people and they did what the Second was meant to do.




They did not use arms to overthrow tyranny. They got pissed off and went to their guns and were allowed to get away with it

NOTHING says using legal recourse and the vote would not have gotten the same result.

Graduate of the Soros school of history I see.

The Battle of Athens was a completely unnecessary use of violence

Peaceful protest, the media, the courts would have gained the same objectives.......like real Americans use

How’d peaceful protest, the courts, and your precious media work out for the Cambodians?

Oh yeah. One of every three was murdered.
 
Here is one time when arms were used to overthrow tyranny. The government failed the people and they did what the Second was meant to do.




They did not use arms to overthrow tyranny. They got pissed off and went to their guns and were allowed to get away with it

NOTHING says using legal recourse and the vote would not have gotten the same result.

Graduate of the Soros school of history I see.

The Battle of Athens was a completely unnecessary use of violence

Peaceful protest, the media, the courts would have gained the same objectives.......like real Americans use

How’d peaceful protest, the courts, and your precious media work out for the Cambodians?

Oh yeah. One of every three was murdered.

We are talking about 1946 America

In white America, gun nut used violence to get their way
In black America, Dr King used peaceful protest, the media and the courts to address the same grievances of a corrupt government restricting the vote
 
Here is one time when arms were used to overthrow tyranny. The government failed the people and they did what the Second was meant to do.




They did not use arms to overthrow tyranny. They got pissed off and went to their guns and were allowed to get away with it

NOTHING says using legal recourse and the vote would not have gotten the same result.

Graduate of the Soros school of history I see.

The Battle of Athens was a completely unnecessary use of violence

Peaceful protest, the media, the courts would have gained the same objectives.......like real Americans use

How’d peaceful protest, the courts, and your precious media work out for the Cambodians?

Oh yeah. One of every three was murdered.

We are talking about 1946 America

In white America, gun nut used violence to get their way
In black America, Dr King used peaceful protest, the media and the courts to address the same grievances of a corrupt government restricting the vote

With the Black Panthers shooting and blowing up people in the background as a reminder.

Not saying they worked together, but everyone knew blacks would soon stop being nicey nice.
 

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