When exactly does the Democrats' socialism kick in?

[Failzero]

After peak. Cloward / Piven success

 

[whitehall]

Who the hell is Bryan Cohen? Has he been elected to anything? Lefties must have been in a freaking coma when the socialist/fascist team of Biden and Fauci shut down schools and businesses, issued E.O. mandates that killed thousands in nursing homes and forced Americans to take the jab of a substandard vaccine or lose their jobs?

 

[citygator]

Who the hell is Bryan Cohen? Has he been elected to anything? Lefties must have been in a freaking coma when the socialist/fascist team of Biden and Fauci shut down schools and businesses, issued E.O. mandates that killed thousands in nursing homes and forced Americans to take the jab of a substandard vaccine or lose their jobs?

Gaslight much? Trump and Fauci closed stuff. Biden wasn’t in the government for Covid shutdowns. Idiot.

 

[whitehall]

Gaslight much? Trump and Fauci closed stuff. Biden wasn’t in the government for Covid shutdowns. Idiot.

Biden wasn't in the government? He was always in the government. Rely on obscure left wing blogs much to do your thinking when you can't come up with an argument?

 

[citygator]

Biden wasn't in the government? He was always in the government. Rely on obscure left wing blogs much to do your thinking when you can't come up with an argument?

2017-2021 Biden was a private citizen. Covid hit the US in December of 2019 and shutdowns happened in March of 2020. Biden wouldn’t join the government for another year. That was Trump.

 

[CowboyTed]

The Socialism has been here for decades… Socisl Security, Medicare, Medicaid, The Affordable Care Act, Affirmative Action, etc… Most of what the Feds do today is Socialism, and contrary to the limits laid out in the US Constitution.

What limits?

Where does the US Constitution say you can't do this... Not trying to be rude...

The US Constitution was written by guys who said that it should be modernised to reflect the wishes the people at that time..

Thomas Jefferson on whether the American Constitution is binding on those who were not born at the time it was signed and agreed to (1789) | Online Library of Liberty

The question Whether one generation of men has a right to bind another, seems never to have been started either on this or our side of the water… (But) between society and society, or generation and generation there is no municipal obligation, no umpire but the law of nature. We seem not to have...

oll.libertyfund.org

Founders Online: To James Madison from Thomas Jefferson, 6 September 1789

To James Madison from Thomas Jefferson, 6 September 1789

founders.archives.gov

The founding fathers believed the US constitution should not make US a hostage to the past...

The problem amending the constitution is hamstrung by hurdles created to change the constitution... Effectively 20 - 30% of the population can stop an amendment against the wishes of 70 - 80%

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Republicans have wielded the word "socialism" like a club and have bludgeoned Democrats, and the country in general,with it.

As I've been predicting for years, including on here, it would lose it's power.

That time has finally arrived.

Thank God!!

If that’s true you aren’t far from getting clubbed and bludgeoned with socialism yourself. You have about two years before you get the full effect once it’s turned loose.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

What limits?

Where does the US Constitution say you can't do this... Not trying to be rude...

The US Constitution was written by guys who said that it should be modernised to reflect the wishes the people at that time..

Thomas Jefferson on whether the American Constitution is binding on those who were not born at the time it was signed and agreed to (1789) | Online Library of Liberty

The question Whether one generation of men has a right to bind another, seems never to have been started either on this or our side of the water… (But) between society and society, or generation and generation there is no municipal obligation, no umpire but the law of nature. We seem not to have...

oll.libertyfund.org

Founders Online: To James Madison from Thomas Jefferson, 6 September 1789

To James Madison from Thomas Jefferson, 6 September 1789

founders.archives.gov

The founding fathers believed the US constitution should not make US a hostage to the past...

The problem amending the constitution is hamstrung by hurdles created to change the constitution... Effectively 20 - 30% of the population can stop an amendment against the wishes of 70 - 80%

They also said it was a republic, if you can keep it. It was system designed for god fearing people and would fail if we ceased being so.

We were warned.

 

[jbander]

Let me take a stab here.You are easily more comfortable
reading from Right to left.
Because yer brain has been hijacked ad afinitum.Meaning
no way back to normal,short of a steady diet of Chinese noodles
and cheap saki.Even then,yer brain may mount a strike.

Listen idiot you either contribute or your ass is out of here. it simple you have to contribute and you can't hijack the thread. If you are unable to do that then I'll dump your ass , say go ahead.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Listen idiot you either contribute or your ass is out of here. it simple you have to contribute and you can't hijack the thread. If you are unable to do that then I'll dump your ass , say go ahead.

Oh no. Whatsoever shall he do with that threat? Oh yeah, tell you to go fuck yourself and move on.

 

[DukeU]

To Conservatives

Anything you do to help Corporations is Patriotism
Anything you do to help the People is Socialism

Corporations are people.

Duh.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

The right wing lemmings for decades have campaigned on the theme that democrats want to usher in socialism. Well, when? After 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, 4 years of Biden, when does the socialism kick in and what does it look like specifically when it comes to programs?

Biden's largest achievements are:

• Infrastructure Bill not socialism and disproportionately benefited rural America
• CHIPS Bill not socialism and is supporting capitalist growth of manufacturing
• PACT act - veteran healthcare is caring for vets socialism?
• American Rescue Plan - not socialism and saved the capital markets and the small business engine of America setting it up to be the healthiest in the world

Not exactly the socialist list of dream policies. Even Obama's Affordable Care Act which pools risk is wildly popular in America and used in Red States to a higher degree than Blue States. In fact only one congressman proposed ending it in the last midterm elections. The rest of Republicans have moved on.

When will I see the socialism?

We were wrong, it's clearly communist.

 

[SweetSue92]

Bread lines? You sound as delusional as trump.

Idiots will never learn until the bread lines start.

Exhibit A right here

 

[Plagerist]

Decades and decades (according to “conservatives”) and yet it never seems to happen

It's happening now, captain.

 

[Plagerist]

i'm sure that's normal in every household not so economically challenges as to not have time for the kids. (when i was a kid that is what grandparents and uncles did.)

no, i just live on earth, where the us government does not and has shown no desire to, own the "means of production"

now to 1srelluc 's second point. government owned and administered health care.

i think that would be a surprise to bluecross/blue shield or any of the bug hospital corporations. wouldn't it?

That's not the argument.

 

[rightwinger]

Corporations are people.

Duh.

To Republicans…….They are GOD

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They have been ushering it in for decades. Duh.

Exactly! It’s just in the labels and marketing

We have a corrupt Socialist Leadership who enriches themselves at the expense of the People

 

[Anathema]

What limits?

Where does the US Constitution say you can't do this... Not trying to be rude...

The US Constitution was written by guys who said that it should be modernised to reflect the wishes the people at that time..

The limits listed in Article I, Section 8 and the 10th Amendment. Section 8 contains the EXCLUSIVE list of things the Legislature can legislate and spend money on. 17 things. Anything else defers to the 10th Amendment… which says it belongs to the States.

 

[citygator]

Exactly! It’s just in the labels and marketing

We have a corrupt Socialist Leadership who enriches themselves at the expense of the People

What socialist policies have been enacted under any of these Presidents?

 

[citygator]

Idiots will never learn until the bread lines start.

Exhibit A right here

What bread lines? Arent we the world's richest nation by far? Our issue is inequity, not poverty.