When exactly does the Democrats' socialism kick in?

[citygator]

1) not sure what that was or is about
2) Price controls are a step towards socialism.
3) not sure what you are talking about
4) there is no secret plan, it's open and obvious, see the Hugo Chavez style price controls on food that Harris wants

Well you added none I missed.

1 & 3 were listed earlier in the thread.

There are no price controls. There are anti-price gouging activities already in place today, I'll be interested in what she says. I guarantee you there will be no coopting of private businesses to be state run food producers. And your whole argument on the march to socialism is a policy not yet announced you know nothing about? But nothing from the 20 years of Liberal Presidents?

 

[struth]

Well you added none I missed.

1 & 3 were listed earlier in the thread.

There are no price controls. There are anti-price gouging activities already in place today, I'll be interested in what she says. I guarantee you there will be no coopting of private businesses to be state run food producers. And your whole argument on the march to socialism is a policy not yet announced you know nothing about? But nothing from the 20 years of Liberal Presidents?

correct, we don't have them now.....Harris however has vowed to put them in place on food if elected. Kamala Harris to Back Government Price Controls

Kamala Harris to Back Government Price Controls​

The Democratic candidate for president will reportedly embrace a plan to have the federal government set prices

 

[CowboyTed]

The Socialism has been here for decades… Socisl Security, Medicare, Medicaid, The Affordable Care Act, Affirmative Action, etc… Most of what the Feds do today is Socialism, and contrary to the limits laid out in the US Constitution.

What limits?

Where does the US Constitution say you can't do this... Not trying to be rude...

The US Constitution was written by guys who said that it should be modernised to reflect the wishes the people at that time..

Thomas Jefferson on whether the American Constitution is binding on those who were not born at the time it was signed and agreed to (1789) | Online Library of Liberty

The question Whether one generation of men has a right to bind another, seems never to have been started either on this or our side of the water… (But) between society and society, or generation and generation there is no municipal obligation, no umpire but the law of nature. We seem not to have...

oll.libertyfund.org

Founders Online: To James Madison from Thomas Jefferson, 6 September 1789

To James Madison from Thomas Jefferson, 6 September 1789

founders.archives.gov

The founding fathers believed the US constitution should not make US a hostage to the past...

The problem amending the constitution is hamstrung by hurdles created to change the constitution... Effectively 20 - 30% of the population can stop an amendment against the wishes of 70 - 80%....

 

[citygator]

correct, we don't have them now.....Harris however has vowed to put them in place on food if elected. Kamala Harris to Back Government Price Controls

Kamala Harris to Back Government Price Controls​

The Democratic candidate for president will reportedly embrace a plan to have the federal government set prices

You dumbass. READ THE RELEASE:

Harris plans to direct the Federal Trade Commission and other agencies to investigate and penalize “big corporations” that violate the rules, and to find other ways of tackling price fixing and other anti-competitive practices in the food and grocery industries, her campaign said late Wednesday night.

Harris, in her speech, will specifically single out the highly consolidated meat industry, deeming its processing middlemen “particularly egregious” price fixers with a history of being found to have illegally controlled prices.

She also plans to direct her administration to carefully scrutinize proposed mergers between large food companies with an emphasis on considering whether they will result in higher grocery prices for consumers. That work would include continuing to examine the proposed merger between Kroger Co. and Albertsons Cos., which faces challenges from the FTC and several states.

The Harris campaign argues that her proposals “stand in stark contrast” to Trump’s economic agenda, which it said “would increase inflation and costs for middle-class families” by levying tariffs on imports of household goods including groceries.

Harris to Call For ‘Price Gouging’ Ban on Food and Groceries

The Democratic nominee is promising to target price gouging and price-fixing within her first 100 days in office.

time.com

 

[struth]

You dumbass. READ THE RELEASE:

Harris plans to direct the Federal Trade Commission and other agencies to investigate and penalize “big corporations” that violate the rules, and to find other ways of tackling price fixing and other anti-competitive practices in the food and grocery industries, her campaign said late Wednesday night.

Harris, in her speech, will specifically single out the highly consolidated meat industry, deeming its processing middlemen “particularly egregious” price fixers with a history of being found to have illegally controlled prices.

She also plans to direct her administration to carefully scrutinize proposed mergers between large food companies with an emphasis on considering whether they will result in higher grocery prices for consumers. That work would include continuing to examine the proposed merger between Kroger Co. and Albertsons Cos., which faces challenges from the FTC and several states.

The Harris campaign argues that her proposals “stand in stark contrast” to Trump’s economic agenda, which it said “would increase inflation and costs for middle-class families” by levying tariffs on imports of household goods including groceries.

Harris to Call For ‘Price Gouging’ Ban on Food and Groceries

The Democratic nominee is promising to target price gouging and price-fixing within her first 100 days in office.

time.com

yes, i did, and fully expected her to have the DOJ go after anyone that violates her price controls. That's how price controls work....

Then the end results...is people being forced to break into zoos to find food:

Thieves stealing Venezuela zoo animals to eat them, say police

Zoo head says a wave of thefts in recent weeks had affected 10 species including a buffalo, which he said was cut up and sold

www.theguardian.com

 

[Lesh]

You guys say the same shit about the right, claiming Republicans will take democracy away or that Trump won't leave office. For decades you guys have been saying Republicans will take social security away.

Well let’s look at that.

Trump TRIED to stay in office illegally

And then there’s Project 2025

 

[rightwinger]

Well, per my thread, if the 57% of teachers who are not Democrats stop funding their own classrooms, that's 1.2 BILLION dollars per year the gov will have to pony up.

"Oh. Your child says there's no tissues in the room? Well, the govt doesn't supply those, so he can bring his own I guess."

Etc, etc, etc

Tissue?

 

[marvin martian]

Well let’s look at that.

Trump TRIED to stay in office illegally

And then there’s Project 2025

Weird post, man.

 

[CowboyTed]

Republicans have wielded the word "socialism" like a club and have bludgeoned Democrats, and the country in general,with it.

As I've been predicting for years, including on here, it would lose it's power.

That time has finally arrived.

Thank God!!

Strange thing, I Europe in normal moderate countries, their leaders have no fear to say they believe in Socialism...

This was the Prime Minister of Ireland at the time

Press review: The view from Dublin

Press review: ... Dublin

www.theguardian.com

And the criticism was that he wasn't socialist enough....

These leaders point to Roads, Education, Policing, Health Care.... as being massive social programs that need to be supported and managed... It easy to cut them and say to everyone, fend for yourself, but investing in them and making them work is where the country really reaps the benefits.

In reality what US calls Socialism is actual Social Democracy... Which is very popular around the world and in places in US... Another name for it is Regulated Capitalism... Social Democracy believes that Corporations should serve the people...

 

[Lesh]

Weird post, man.

Nope

Factual

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The Socialism has been here for decades… Socisl Security, Medicare, Medicaid, The Affordable Care Act, Affirmative Action, etc… Most of what the Feds do today is Socialism, and contrary to the limits laid out in the US Constitution.

It certainly creeps. You should see the expanse of the DC area in the fifty-five years I’ve lived here. Three of America’s richest counties are now in the DC area.
If you travel through rural America, you’ll see town after town in disrepair as the industry is all gone. But you’ll come across an occasional town that thrives. 99% of the time, that town is the county seat.

 

[Anathema]

What limits?

Where does the US Constitution say you can't do this... Not trying to be rude...

The US Constitution was written by guys who said that it should be modernised to reflect the wishes the people at that time..

Then pass the Amendments necessary to update Article I, Section 8 and repeal the 10th Amendment don’t ignore them.

 

[Foolardi]

Commie...it takes time. But the dems must be commended for fucking America up far faster than anyone thought humanly possible.

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Furthermore what weenie excuse will fellow libtards use to
explain 22 days now where Harris has not held a Presser or
done an interview.Unremarkably Stalin-like.
Maybe because she can't.She is the exact same ballbusting San Fransico
DA and AG of California.The left is feverishly attempting to make her
out to be another human.

 

[jbander]

The right wing lemmings for decades have campaigned on the theme that democrats want to usher in socialism. Well, when? After 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, 4 years of Biden, when does the socialism kick in and what does it look like specifically when it comes to programs?

Biden's largest achievements are:

• Infrastructure Bill not socialism and disproportionately benefited rural America
• CHIPS Bill not socialism and is supporting capitalist growth of manufacturing
• PACT act - veteran healthcare is caring for vets socialism?
• American Rescue Plan - not socialism and saved the capital markets and the small business engine of America setting it up to be the healthiest in the world

Not exactly the socialist list of dream policies. Even Obama's Affordable Care Act which pools risk is wildly popular in America and used in Red States to a higher degree than Blue States. In fact only one congressman proposed ending it in the last midterm elections. The rest of Republicans have moved on.

When will I see the socialism?

There isn't enough socialist in this country to fill a thimble.. How stupid are they ,Who in the hell in this great country wants this , The means of production is owned and operated by the state , and the sales of that production is designated to the state. YUP THAT'S HOW BRAIN DEAD STUPID THEY ARE,

 

[jbander]

The right wing lemmings for decades have campaigned on the theme that democrats want to usher in socialism. Well, when? After 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, 4 years of Biden, when does the socialism kick in and what does it look like specifically when it comes to programs?

Biden's largest achievements are:

• Infrastructure Bill not socialism and disproportionately benefited rural America
• CHIPS Bill not socialism and is supporting capitalist growth of manufacturing
• PACT act - veteran healthcare is caring for vets socialism?
• American Rescue Plan - not socialism and saved the capital markets and the small business engine of America setting it up to be the healthiest in the world

Not exactly the socialist list of dream policies. Even Obama's Affordable Care Act which pools risk is wildly popular in America and used in Red States to a higher degree than Blue States. In fact only one congressman proposed ending it in the last midterm elections. The rest of Republicans have moved on.

When will I see the socialism?

I have to admit the commie attack from MAGA's make it real easy to decide whether you are talking to a total brain dead idiot or not. Love these right wing commies are everywhere people ,so willing to step right up so everyone can see the stupid sign printed on their forehead.

 

[BULLDOG]

And that is the progressives come backs. Always comparing something else. Which makes their agendas right. The real comparison is someone else getting VD, gonorrhea, etc. And the cost of penicillin as compared to the drugs and treatment for HIV/AIDS and promoting the behavior.

More people die of heart attacks and more money is spent on their treatment than for all those yucky diseases you mentioned. combined, and is therefore a much larger health problem. Are you saying you really didn't know that?

 

[BULLDOG]

Oh look--lamaka's socialism kicked in today.

Food price controls.

Good luck with that one.

IOW, Bread lines

Bread lines? You sound as delusional as trump.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The right wing lemmings for decades have campaigned on the theme that democrats want to usher in socialism. Well, when? After 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, 4 years of Biden, when does the socialism kick in and what does it look like specifically when it comes to programs?

Biden's largest achievements are:

• Infrastructure Bill not socialism and disproportionately benefited rural America
• CHIPS Bill not socialism and is supporting capitalist growth of manufacturing
• PACT act - veteran healthcare is caring for vets socialism?
• American Rescue Plan - not socialism and saved the capital markets and the small business engine of America setting it up to be the healthiest in the world

Not exactly the socialist list of dream policies. Even Obama's Affordable Care Act which pools risk is wildly popular in America and used in Red States to a higher degree than Blue States. In fact only one congressman proposed ending it in the last midterm elections. The rest of Republicans have moved on.

When will I see the socialism?

Biden's Communism kicked in 5,674 years ago...

Oh, except they don't even know what Communism is.... or Socialism... they just throw the words out because they think it sounds good.

 

[Foolardi]

I have to admit the commie attack from MAGA's make it real easy to decide whether you are talking to a total brain dead idiot or not. Love these right wing commies are everywhere people ,so willing to step right up so everyone can see the stupid sign printed on their forehead.

Let me take a stab here.You are easily more comfortable
reading from Right to left.
Because yer brain has been hijacked ad afinitum.Meaning
no way back to normal,short of a steady diet of Chinese noodles
and cheap saki.Even then,yer brain may mount a strike.

 

[Foolardi]

Bread lines? You sound as delusional as trump.

Trump gave an exceptional Press conference this afternoon.
He was on his game.Probably explained with professorship
more in an hour than both Biden And Harris together since
December of 2020.
I bet Kids in grade school { Preferably Catholic Parochial School }
are gonna demand their teachers break out the Box of Gold
Stars most Catholic Teachers have in the furthest recess of their
teachers desk.In celebration of Trump and his far reaching I.Q.