Zone1 When Christianity Just Doesn't Make Sense

[Woodznutz]

there are no heavenly commandments - the exact opposite of your post is the historical record, commandments particularly those madeup by moses are use for their subliminal purpose, to persecute and victimize the innocent especially by the desert religions primary adherents for their own selfish agendas.

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- their uninterrupted remorseless histories speak for themselves.

Works for me.

 

[BreezeWood]

Don't cast your pearls to that one.

- their uninterrupted remorseless histories speak for themselves.

what pearls are there for a christian ... more like hide behind their 10000 page book of forgeries, lies and fallacies.

 

[Woodznutz]

what pearls are there for a christian ... more like hide behind their 10000 page book of forgeries, lies and fallacies.

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[ding]

I told you it was not about belief. it’s about knowledge. When I was born, a higher power loaded my mind with the ability to be rational and to know moral purpose. Every person born in the history of mankind has had the same opportunity to rise in morality by observing all aspects of creation within the limits of the environment and ability to which they are born

How is that a providential creator?

How is that a moralistic creator?

 

[Mashmont]

But God doesn't literally know everything. He gives us free will to make choices, and he cannot know what choice we will make until we actually make it, otherwise, we really wouldn't have free choice!

I have never understood this logic. I say we have free choice, but God knows what that choice will be. Why can’t both be true?

 

[Z99]

I have never understood this logic. I say we have free choice, but God knows what that choice will be. Why can’t both be true?

Do slaves have "free choice"?

John 8:34
English Standard Version
34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin.

 

[onefour1]

I have never understood this logic. I say we have free choice, but God knows what that choice will be. Why can’t both be true?

We have free choice unless others take it away. But God gave us the free will to choose between good and evil. Knowing what we will choose does not take away the fact that we can choose. If you hold a fresh piece a meat in front of your dog, he/she will almost certainly eat that meat. Knowing that your dog would eat it, did you force your dog to eat it or did you know that he likes it and without restraint would eat it? Your knowledge did not take away the dogs free will by forcing him to eat it. Both can be true!

 

[BreezeWood]

I have never understood this logic. I say we have free choice, but God knows what that choice will be. Why can’t both be true?

no, that's your error or there would never be a judgement for the individual or humanity - the spirit is inviolable, the heavens can only destroy it not force it to change its own course whatever that may be.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

I mean don't get me wrong I'm still a believer but some things I just don't understand. Like if God knows everything and knew that Lucifer was going to bring sin into the world then why did He even create him in the first place? Couldn't Satan still repent if he wanted to and wouldn't God forgive him then?

Religions aren't meant to make sense. They were created by man to get people to stop rampant misbehavior. Buddhism is lumped with the religions, but it's not about worshipping gods, but rather about disciplining your mine to attain enlightenment/happiness. People bring their religion into it, but it's not necessary.

 

[Z99]

We have free choice unless others take it away.

I don't believe that we have "free choice" in that we are afflicted with the disease known as "sin" and we are slaves to it.

 

[onefour1]

I don't believe that we have "free choice" in that we are afflicted with the disease known as "sin" and we are slaves to it.

You are only a slave to sin if your choose to adhere to it. You can choose to not sin. Give it a try!

 

[BreezeWood]

I don't believe that we have "free choice" in that we are afflicted with the disease known as "sin" and we are slaves to it.

at birth is where the path begins there is both good and evil the choice without influence is the individuals to make that and outside influences are what determine how far down the path the spirit travels before its time runs out ... few reach the end to either and is the only means for judgment for admission to the everlasting.

 

[Z99]

You are only a slave to sin if your choose to adhere to it. You can choose to not sin. Give it a try!

Nobody can be sinless.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I have never understood this logic. I say we have free choice, but God knows what that choice will be. Why can’t both be true?

Jesus has been bought out by billionaires

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[whutTHEYsay]

How is that a providential creator?

How is that a moralistic creator?

A higher power is changing the universe through more than enough moral energy in me.

 

[ding]

A higher power is changing the universe through more than enough moral energy in me.

How does that work? Are they like microwaves? And how would that be providential?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

How does that work?

don’t know don’t give a fuck Science Guy. pull the arrow out..

 

[TNHarley]

I mean don't get me wrong I'm still a believer but some things I just don't understand. Like if God knows everything and knew that Lucifer was going to bring sin into the world then why did He even create him in the first place? Couldn't Satan still repent if he wanted to and wouldn't God forgive him then?

You are thinking. Good.

 

[TNHarley]

Angels cannot repent once they made their initial decision to accept God’s plan or to reject it.

They were made with a specific purpose and their existence revolves around it, fixed on it in fact. The devil and all the demons who made their choice would make the same choice even knowing their eternal damnation.

You should watch videos of Father Chad Ripperger, an exorcist who has dealt with the Satan himself. He wrote a book about the demonic and how they operate.


God allows for “evil” because he will not force anyone to love him. It is also a test for us to overcome. God allows demons to influence us and even possess humans for this reason.

LOL Force anyone? "do my bidding, or burn for eternity!"
Your post just screams that your god isnt omniscient or omnipotent.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

how would that be providential

involving divine foresight or intervention:"God's providential care for each of us"​

I came to realize there is a spark to life or a light is lit just for me at my birth into this beautiful but mysterious cosmos that will gently bring me to the truth if I steadfastly “attempt” to keep that flame flickering no matter the cruelty, the Cosmo throws at me.

Be attracted to love and averse to hate keeps nature’s god providing providential spiritual care for each of us that may not be explained in human language or science.