What's wrong with firing squad?

[Iceweasel]

Or ones that are too politically charged, like McVeigh. He never should have option for the death penalty. I would have loved to hear what he had to say maybe another 20 years from now, 30 years from now, at some point when he was an old man, about what REALLY happened in OKC. Way too expedient for the government to put his lights out.

The government didn't charge him with a political crime and I sort of doubt they were behind killing many of their own, including family.

 

[Jackinthebox]

You stupid idiot. Your ancestors have nothing to do with you. You didn't herd buffalo or fight any Europeans. Even so, they were immigrants too. You're the one that hates America.

Maybe you missed the part where I said I have NATIVE blood in my veins. I still own the land that my European ancestors bought from my native ancestors and settled on in 1659. Soon thereafter there was a marriage between the two families. I am also a heritage member of Sons of the Revolution. So my ancestors have everything to do with me and the very definition of what is America.

 

[Jackinthebox]

The government didn't charge him with a political crime and I sort of doubt they were behind killing many of their own, including family.

I think you need a reading lesson. I never said they charged him with a political crime. But you are dense as a three day old turd if you don't recognize the political element to the bombing. I also never said that the government was behind the killing. There is more than one reason to cover up information about a crime. Political reasons being a very big reason.

But if you think your reading comprehension skills are up to it, you might want to give this a gander.

Oklahoma City Bombing Used FBI Explosives Station.6.Underground

 

[westwall]

Seppuku is ritual suicide. I find it difficult to imagine a criminal willingly cutting his belly open.

I know. Force him to do it! It would be pretty badass right?

I think you just didn't know what seppuku was. Most westerners don't.

Well you'd be wrong. You think I would know the word, spelling and all, and not know what it means?

Then logically, how do you force someone to slit their belly open? Further, to do so would require handing a sharp edged instrument to a person who is condemned. I don't know about you, but somehow I think that anyone involved in the corrections field would have a major issue with doing that. Don't you?

That entire post of mine was satirical. You'll see later I suggested shoving a burning iron up someone's ass. My point is that we have to draw a line somewhere.

Ahh, I see. Without punctuation to emphasize your satire it is pretty impossible to see. Satire works well (if you're good at it, like Colbert) in a visual medium, not so well in printed form.

 

[westwall]

You know............there IS a painless, humane way to put people to death.

It's called helium. Helium gas is VERY dangerous, because you can suffocate if you breathe in too much of it. Best way to do the execution? Put the person under with nitrous oxide, and when they go to sleep, replace the nitrous with helium, and they'll be dead within 5 minutes.

Matter of fact, you could even put a small chamber around a chair and pump it in via the floor.

They don't need to use injections that don't work.

Besides.............there are suicide kits that you can buy on the 'net that is nothing more than a bag with a tube that connects to a helium bottle, you have to provide your own helium.

As far as seppuku like someone else mentioned farther up the thread? Nope, that is a ritual suicide that bestows the person doing it with much honor. In the days of the Samurai, when they had done something to bring dishonor to themselves, they were allowed the chance to do seppuku as a way to regain their honor and die like a Samurai. If they didn't want to kill themselves, there was another Samurai behind them, ready to chop off their head if they hesitated.

Ummmm, Nitrous kills you too biker sailor. If that's all there is in your cubicle that will kill you just as dead.

 

[Iceweasel]

The government didn't charge him with a political crime and I sort of doubt they were behind killing many of their own, including family.

I think you need a reading lesson. I never said they charged him with a political crime. But you are dense as a three day old turd if you don't recognize the political element to the bombing. I also never said that the government was behind the killing. There is more than one reason to cover up information about a crime. Political reasons being a very big reason.

But if you think your reading comprehension skills are up to it, you might want to give this a gander.

Oklahoma City Bombing Used FBI Explosives Station.6.Underground

You brought up politics, not me. The political motivation was all his. There's no reason to mention it unless you think government was involved. The fact that there's no proof is evidence of a cover up for you. LOL.

 

[TheOldSchool]

I know. Force him to do it! It would be pretty badass right?

I think you just didn't know what seppuku was. Most westerners don't.

Well you'd be wrong. You think I would know the word, spelling and all, and not know what it means?

Then logically, how do you force someone to slit their belly open? Further, to do so would require handing a sharp edged instrument to a person who is condemned. I don't know about you, but somehow I think that anyone involved in the corrections field would have a major issue with doing that. Don't you?

That entire post of mine was satirical. You'll see later I suggested shoving a burning iron up someone's ass. My point is that we have to draw a line somewhere.

Ahh, I see. Without punctuation to emphasize your satire it is pretty impossible to see. Satire works well (if you're good at it, like Colbert) in a visual medium, not so well in printed form.

Gracie knows what I meant. She's who it was directed at.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know............there IS a painless, humane way to put people to death.

It's called helium. Helium gas is VERY dangerous, because you can suffocate if you breathe in too much of it. Best way to do the execution? Put the person under with nitrous oxide, and when they go to sleep, replace the nitrous with helium, and they'll be dead within 5 minutes.

Matter of fact, you could even put a small chamber around a chair and pump it in via the floor.

They don't need to use injections that don't work.

Besides.............there are suicide kits that you can buy on the 'net that is nothing more than a bag with a tube that connects to a helium bottle, you have to provide your own helium.

As far as seppuku like someone else mentioned farther up the thread? Nope, that is a ritual suicide that bestows the person doing it with much honor. In the days of the Samurai, when they had done something to bring dishonor to themselves, they were allowed the chance to do seppuku as a way to regain their honor and die like a Samurai. If they didn't want to kill themselves, there was another Samurai behind them, ready to chop off their head if they hesitated.

Ummmm, Nitrous kills you too biker sailor. If that's all there is in your cubicle that will kill you just as dead.

Yeah................but helium will do it quicker. It will replace all the oxygen in your lungs if inhaled more than a couple of times.

 

[Jackinthebox]

The government didn't charge him with a political crime and I sort of doubt they were behind killing many of their own, including family.

I think you need a reading lesson. I never said they charged him with a political crime. But you are dense as a three day old turd if you don't recognize the political element to the bombing. I also never said that the government was behind the killing. There is more than one reason to cover up information about a crime. Political reasons being a very big reason.

But if you think your reading comprehension skills are up to it, you might want to give this a gander.

Oklahoma City Bombing Used FBI Explosives Station.6.Underground

You brought up politics, not me. The political motivation was all his. There's no reason to mention it unless you think government was involved. The fact that there's no proof is evidence of a cover up for you. LOL.

You have no idea what political factors there may have been, and you never will now that he is dead. That's the point. But obviously your reading skills weren't up to snuff anyway.

 

[Iceweasel]

You have no idea what political factors there may have been, and you never will now that he is dead. That's the point. But obviously your reading skills weren't up to snuff anyway.

I read just fine asshole. You couldn't back up the point except with maybe he would have talked about a government conspiracy that may or may not exist in 30 years so why kill him. He said what motivated him numerous times, there is no mystery for those of us that read the accounts.

 

[Sarah G]

It's Arias. And why clean up? Leave the mess as a message.

Well, workers have to take the bodies away and can't be exposed to blood like that.

Some of you people are really clueless..

 

[Ernie S.]

I think the death penalty should be expanded to cover more crimes, but reserved for those convicted via DNA/video evidence or multiple reliable witnesses. But yes, firing squad would be so much more efficient. A couple of bullets doesn't cost anything compared to what they need to do for electrocution or lethal injection.

Civilized nations have done away with the death penalty. Just saying

Have you been to Chicago? We are not a civilized nation.

Do you mean Texas? Chicago is very civilized.

How many Liberals shot each other there so far in 2014 compared to say, Dallas?

Chicago to date 2385 shootings 380 shot and killed 445 total homicides
Dallas data similar to Chicago is harder to find, but as of 11/11, it had 101 homicides, We can extrapolate the year will end with 117 homicides and if we use the same death to shooting rates and the same gun death to total homicide rates, we can estimate
Dallas will end the year with 800 shootings, 100 shot and killed and 117 total homicides
Dallas population is 1.25 million Chicago's is 2.72 million or 2.176 times Dallas' population. Let's recap:
Chicago to date 2385 shootings 380 shot and killed 445 total homicides.
Extrapolated for the year 2764 total shootings 440 shot and killed and 516 total homicides
If we multiply Dallas' numbers by 2.176 we get
Dallas for the entire year, 1741 shootings 218 shot and killed and 255 total homicides.

Yeah Chicago is VERY civilized. Come now, Sarah.

 

[Sarah G]

HaHa. You got this info where? Chicago is huge, its better compared to NYC, not Dallas. I've been there many times. You just think Dallas is more civilized because it is full of Republicans.

They write songs about how great Chicago is. I've never heard one about Dallas...

 

[westwall]

HaHa. You got this info where? Chicago is huge, its better compared to NYC, not Dallas. I've been there many times. You just think Dallas is more civilized because it is full of Republicans.

They write songs about how great Chicago is. I've never heard one about Dallas...

 

[Sarah G]

 

[Jackinthebox]

You have no idea what political factors there may have been, and you never will now that he is dead. That's the point. But obviously your reading skills weren't up to snuff anyway.

I read just fine asshole. You couldn't back up the point except with maybe he would have talked about a government conspiracy that may or may not exist in 30 years so why kill him. He said what motivated him numerous times, there is no mystery for those of us that read the accounts.

You have missed the point entirely, yet again, and I am not about to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

 

[Iceweasel]

You have no idea what political factors there may have been, and you never will now that he is dead. That's the point. But obviously your reading skills weren't up to snuff anyway.

I read just fine asshole. You couldn't back up the point except with maybe he would have talked about a government conspiracy that may or may not exist in 30 years so why kill him. He said what motivated him numerous times, there is no mystery for those of us that read the accounts.

You have missed the point entirely, yet again, and I am not about to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

In other words, you're just a popcorn fart. "You couldn't back up the point..."

 

[Ernie S.]

HaHa. You got this info where? Chicago is huge, its better compared to NYC, not Dallas. I've been there many times. You just think Dallas is more civilized because it is full of Republicans.

They write songs about how great Chicago is. I've never heard one about Dallas...

I got the Chicago data from a site that compiles data daily with information from Chicago PD. Here's a link:
heyjackass.com/category/2014-chicago-crime-murder-stats/
The Dallas data is from the Dallas PD.
I gave you the population of Dallas and Chicago and did the math for you after YOU insinuated that Texas was more violent than Chicago.

I really don't care where you are or where you've been. I could care less if Chicago has had songs written about it. That is irrelevant. (Hi Jake)
What is relevant to the discussion is crime statistics. I've give you them. I've done the math for you. The truth is that you are about twice as likely to be shot and killed in Chicago than in Dallas.

Chicago better compared to NYC????? Why? YOU brought Texas into the discussion?

FYI, NYC has a population of 8.4 million, Chicago, 2.7 million and Dallas, 1.25 million. There is a larger discrepancy between the population of Chicago and New York than there is between Chicago and Dallas.

 

[Statistikhengst]

I think the death penalty should be expanded to cover more crimes, but reserved for those convicted via DNA/video evidence or multiple reliable witnesses. But yes, firing squad would be so much more efficient. A couple of bullets doesn't cost anything compared to what they need to do for electrocution or lethal injection.

Civilized nations have done away with the death penalty. Just saying

Have you been to Chicago? We are not a civilized nation.

Do you mean Texas? Chicago is very civilized.

How many Liberals shot each other there so far in 2014 compared to say, Dallas?

Chicago to date 2385 shootings 380 shot and killed 445 total homicides
Dallas data similar to Chicago is harder to find, but as of 11/11, it had 101 homicides, We can extrapolate the year will end with 117 homicides and if we use the same death to shooting rates and the same gun death to total homicide rates, we can estimate
Dallas will end the year with 800 shootings, 100 shot and killed and 117 total homicides
Dallas population is 1.25 million Chicago's is 2.72 million or 2.176 times Dallas' population. Let's recap:
Chicago to date 2385 shootings 380 shot and killed 445 total homicides.
Extrapolated for the year 2764 total shootings 440 shot and killed and 516 total homicides
If we multiply Dallas' numbers by 2.176 we get
Dallas for the entire year, 1741 shootings 218 shot and killed and 255 total homicides.

Yeah Chicago is VERY civilized. Come now, Sarah.

"Liberal"s?

You equate every murder in the statistic with Liberals? Really?

 

[Ernie S.]

I think the death penalty should be expanded to cover more crimes, but reserved for those convicted via DNA/video evidence or multiple reliable witnesses. But yes, firing squad would be so much more efficient. A couple of bullets doesn't cost anything compared to what they need to do for electrocution or lethal injection.

Civilized nations have done away with the death penalty. Just saying

Have you been to Chicago? We are not a civilized nation.

Do you mean Texas? Chicago is very civilized.

How many Liberals shot each other there so far in 2014 compared to say, Dallas?

Chicago to date 2385 shootings 380 shot and killed 445 total homicides
Dallas data similar to Chicago is harder to find, but as of 11/11, it had 101 homicides, We can extrapolate the year will end with 117 homicides and if we use the same death to shooting rates and the same gun death to total homicide rates, we can estimate
Dallas will end the year with 800 shootings, 100 shot and killed and 117 total homicides
Dallas population is 1.25 million Chicago's is 2.72 million or 2.176 times Dallas' population. Let's recap:
Chicago to date 2385 shootings 380 shot and killed 445 total homicides.
Extrapolated for the year 2764 total shootings 440 shot and killed and 516 total homicides
If we multiply Dallas' numbers by 2.176 we get
Dallas for the entire year, 1741 shootings 218 shot and killed and 255 total homicides.

Yeah Chicago is VERY civilized. Come now, Sarah.

"Liberal"s?

You equate every murder in the statistic with Liberals? Really?

The vast majority of shootings in Chicago are black on black. Damned few of the perps are Conservatives.