What's with some on the right and purity?

[Mr. Shaman]

I may have to have Mr Shaman as the only person on my ignore list for the New Year. It's not for what he says either, idiots make me laugh, it's the annoying center post, big red letter, 3rd grade nonsense

Aw, jeez.....I'm expected to apologize for whuppin'-your-ass, on a consistent-basis?

Ain't gonna happen.



(Ya' got nothin'!!)​

"What can you say about Dick Armey?"​

 

[Cuyo]

You and Obama run on your ideas, we're going to run on ours. Best thing is that we get to run against Obama, Reid and Pelosi again.

Magic 8 Ball says: I see Dems losing another 50 seats November 2012, the POTUS, the Senate and 10 more state houses.

See you again in Nov 2012

If you win, it will be nothing to be proud of. The ideologues advocating for the rich will once again have succeeded in tricking a nation of mental midgets into voting against their own interests.

And that's the way it is on 12-31-2010.

Yes, keeping you Socialist fuckers out of power is "Voting against our own interests".

Charming

Oh and Happy New Year

Your God damn right it is, whether you have the clout to recognize it or not.

And Happy New Year to you too!

 

[code1211]

Fiscal 2008 budget deficit seen about $400 billion | Reuters

Whoopsie! Messed up the quote function again. Quote is from JB.



Actually, the budget was around 2.6 Trillion and the real expenditures were around 2.9 Trillion. The actual expenditures is the number i used.

So what is your solution? Do we just keep on driving fast to the Vanishing Point or do we do something to fix the problem?

 

[Cuyo]

Fiscal 2008 budget deficit seen about $400 billion | Reuters

Whoopsie! Messed up the quote function again. Quote is from JB.



Actually, the budget was around 2.6 Trillion and the real expenditures were around 2.9 Trillion. The actual expenditures is the number i used.

So what is your solution? Do we just keep on driving fast to the Vanishing Point or do we do something to fix the problem?

There's not much you can do amid the recession. You could tax the rich, but nobody's got the cajones to go through with it.

After the recession subsides, I recommend the Ross Perot approach of tax and cut... Yeah! You can do both; Who knew, maybe both sides were right all along! Take care of that national debt. We pay interest on that thing, ya know.

In fact I was amazed, reading back now, just how much of Perot I agree with...
Ross Perot on the Issues

Other than a few domestic issues, he's spot on with just about everything I believe. Had never really paid attention to his positions before, after all I was in 5th grade in 1992, and he just kinda faded from view rather abruptly after that.

 

[mdn2000]

I have observed that there are those on the right who are often measuring one another based on some idea of what a "real" conservative is ... the term RINO is given to Republicans who don't toe the party line enough.

I'm sure this exists on some level with the left but it isn't nearly as prevelant as is on the right.

What gives?

RINO's do not stand for Conservatives and have no place representing Conservatism.

Conservatism in its purest form is Liberty, Justice, and Freedom. When one is on the right side of Liberty, Justice, and Freedom a compromise with Marxist ideals of the Liberal Democrats is a step closer to tyranny. That is why we have no need for Moderates or RINO's.

Do you wish to be a moderate when offered Tyranny, how much Tyranny by government is acceptable, for me, none, that is why I have no use for the Moderates or RINOs

 

[Cuyo]

I have observed that there are those on the right who are often measuring one another based on some idea of what a "real" conservative is ... the term RINO is given to Republicans who don't toe the party line enough.

I'm sure this exists on some level with the left but it isn't nearly as prevelant as is on the right.

What gives?

RINO's do not stand for Conservatives and have no place representing Conservatism.

Conservatism in its purest form is Liberty, Justice, and Freedom. When one is on the right side of Liberty, Justice, and Freedom a compromise with Marxist ideals of the Liberal Democrats is a step closer to tyranny. That is why we have no need for Moderates or RINO's.

Do you wish to be a moderate when offered Tyranny, how much Tyranny by government is acceptable, for me, none, that is why I have no use for the Moderates or RINOs

Stuck on stupid. Why do you needlessly, constantly bring up Marx? Where does the Liberal Democrat rule book declare it's ideals are "Marxist?"

Are you suggesting that liberalism didn't exist until the 19th century?

Sounds to me like you've got some noisy liars in your ear.

 

[Dr.House]

I may have to have Mr Shaman as the only person on my ignore list for the New Year. It's not for what he says either, idiots make me laugh, it's the annoying center post, big red letter, 3rd grade nonsense

I'm pretty sure Mr. Sheman is the most ignored poster here....

Only one on my list too...

 

[JBeukema]

There's not much you can do amid the recession.

-return to pre-carter marginal tax rates on the wealthiest Americans

-Bring work and manufacturing back to America- make as a producer and not a world consumer by:
--doing away with NAFTA

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnVL0d9fwkY[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxQQael1ueE[/ame]


--banning the importation of all goods not certified sweat-free

--requiring all imported goods to either (A)be certified for safety (eg: no lead or cadmium) by a foreign agency recognized as imposing standards comparable to our own or (B) be tested and approved by a certified American laboratory/inspector at the expense of either the importer or the manufacturer

-Create a bipartisan committee to audit the armed forces and require the military justify every base and every program; close the Cold War bases in Europe and elsewhere

-simplify the tax code, doing away with a great many loopholes and tax credits and creating not more than six brackets/rates

-End corn ethanol and other farm subsidies

-End the growing oligopoly on the world's food supplies and end Monsanto's ability to effectively take over independent farms by refusing to recognize patents on life

-See the threads I linked on other programs to cut


how's that for a start?

Also, aren't we seeing positive growth? That would mean it's not a recession. By definition.

 

[Sheldon]

Has anyone Godwinned this thread yet?

 

[Ravi]

LOL! Purity. Republicans. Hitler.

Should have happened on page one.

 

[elvis]

LOL! Purity. Republicans. Hitler.

Should have happened on page one.

sounds like a brainstorming session.

 

[Intense]

Sounds like an Oxymoron.

 

[rdean]

They are "pure". Pure "white". As "white" as the driven snow. And just as cold.

 

[Sheldon]

They are "pure". Pure "white". As "white" as the driven snow. And just as cold.

6% of snow is urinated on.

 

[elvis]

They are "pure". Pure "white". As "white" as the driven snow. And just as cold.

6% of snow is urinated on.

and Rdean has eaten it all.

 

[rdean]

They are "pure". Pure "white". As "white" as the driven snow. And just as cold.

6% of snow is urinated on.

and Rdean has eaten it all.

That fetish belongs to you guys, not me. It's not even in my imagination. Too bad you can't say the same.

 

[code1211]

There's not much you can do amid the recession.

-return to pre-carter marginal tax rates on the wealthiest Americans

-Bring work and manufacturing back to America- make as a producer and not a world consumer by:
--doing away with NAFTA

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnVL0d9fwkY[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxQQael1ueE[/ame]


--banning the importation of all goods not certified sweat-free

--requiring all imported goods to either (A)be certified for safety (eg: no lead or cadmium) by a foreign agency recognized as imposing standards comparable to our own or (B) be tested and approved by a certified American laboratory/inspector at the expense of either the importer or the manufacturer

-Create a bipartisan committee to audit the armed forces and require the military justify every base and every program; close the Cold War bases in Europe and elsewhere

-simplify the tax code, doing away with a great many loopholes and tax credits and creating not more than six brackets/rates
-End corn ethanol and other farm subsidies
-End the growing oligopoly on the world's food supplies and end Monsanto's ability to effectively take over independent farms by refusing to recognize patents on life

-See the threads I linked on other programs to cut


how's that for a start?

Also, aren't we seeing positive growth? That would mean it's not a recession. By definition.

I've highlighted those things above that I like. I'm not familiar with the business practices of Monsanto. Protectionist policies invariably lead to bad things. High tax rates on the rich would be preferrable to the uncertainty that the Big 0 seems bent on growing, but reasonable tax rates are better yet.

By the by, businesses are not tax payers. Businesses are tax collectors. Any increase in tax on the business community is passed along to the consumer in the form of increased prices.

From a strictly economic academic standpoint, the recession is over. Finally. The Dems bet that no matter how badly they abused the economy with the Failed Stimulus, it would recover before the next election and they could claim credit. They were so sure that the economy would come back no matter what they did that they rushed it through so it would be in place while things were still bad.

Clearly, that is a bet they lost.

They have stolen a Trillion dollars by way of the Failed Stimulus and now the jig is up.

The business community is sufficiently terrorized that they are working employees 59 hours/week instead of hiring additional employees. They cannot figure out what the benefits will cost, so they are just not hiring.

In the mean time, the oligarchy appoints winners and losers by granting or not granting waivers to the Health Insurance Scam which is daily building the weight breaking the back of the hiring recovery.

The Big 0 has an economic policy that stands in the way of recovery and he is blaming the business community for being afraid of his next flight of fantasy aimed at destroying their businesses.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

 

[mdn2000]

Independents and Moderates, thats just were the Liberal's hide, that is just were the radicals hides.

The mantra, "I can get along with everyone, I can compromise." "At least I am doing something."

We have compromised our nation with these fools ever since I can remember, we have always compromised and what has that gotten us.

We compromise our principles every day for the independents and the left, they work hand in hand. Screw the independents, screw the moderates and screw every lousy liberal idea.

I am right, so whats my compromise, to be half wrong. Any subject and the Liberal loses and the independent demands we accept 50% stupidity.

 

[goldcatt]

Independents and Moderates, thats just were the Liberal's hide, that is just were the radicals hides.

The mantra, "I can get along with everyone, I can compromise." "At least I am doing something."

We have compromised our nation with these fools ever since I can remember, we have always compromised and what has that gotten us.

We compromise our principles every day for the independents and the left, they work hand in hand. Screw the independents, screw the moderates and screw every lousy liberal idea.

I am right, so whats my compromise, to be half wrong. Any subject and the Liberal loses and the independent demands we accept 50% stupidity.

Out of curiosity, let's assume you "win", conservatives gain undisputed power and liberals and moderates are no longer welcome to have a voice. What do you do with all those people who don't want to live in the country you want to make and also want their voices to be heard? What's your end game strategy for dealing with people who disagree?

 

[mdn2000]

Independents and Moderates, thats just were the Liberal's hide, that is just were the radicals hides.

The mantra, "I can get along with everyone, I can compromise." "At least I am doing something."

We have compromised our nation with these fools ever since I can remember, we have always compromised and what has that gotten us.

We compromise our principles every day for the independents and the left, they work hand in hand. Screw the independents, screw the moderates and screw every lousy liberal idea.

I am right, so whats my compromise, to be half wrong. Any subject and the Liberal loses and the independent demands we accept 50% stupidity.

Out of curiosity, let's assume you "win", conservatives gain undisputed power and liberals and moderates are no longer welcome to have a voice. What do you do with all those people who don't want to live in the country you want to make and also want their voices to be heard? What's your end game strategy for dealing with people who disagree?

My ideas are not Republican ideas so do not get me confused with the elites in politics.

I doubt I will ever see the world fair, too many assholes.

To adequately answer you, you need to understand me and I need to understand what your concerns would be.

Take tax, I say one 10% tax is the only fair tax, when you spend a buck your taxed on a buck. That means no IRS, no Tax returns, No hidden deductions, No lawyers, No criminality, just a simple tax, no fees for using the government. No way for the governments to collect money, from the state, to the county, to the city.

Who is against not paying more than 10% of what they spend as a tax. Fools, so if you want to know what to do with fools maybe an Island called Moron Island, I saw it in an old Popeye show.

I see taxes as the biggest threat, actually not a threat but a problem. Taxes are also fees and now fines. The governments ability to collect money corrupts people, the Constitution expressly states the Constitution must protect us. All Presidents in my life time are failures. Not one President has protected me from the tyranny of government.

Anyone who does not like being taxed once, with no loop holes, is a fool.

So I am paying an extreme amount in taxes, what should my compromise be, Obama just gave me one, I can continue paying the same amount instead of paying more.

Beautiful, thanks you independents and moderates for allowing government to continue to rule me through tax.