What's Up With Sanctuary Cities?

[Auld Phart]

So why do you have an issue with “sanctuary cities”?

protecting an amendment is not the same as protecting lawbreakers.

If they enter the country legally, they don't need sanctuary.

 

[Coyote]

protecting an amendment is not the same as protecting lawbreakers.

If they enter the country legally, they don't need sanctuary.

You aren’t “protecting an amendment”, you are choosing to break laws or refusing to recognize them. Just like “sanctuary cities”. The only difference is…well, you support the ideology of the one and applaud lawlessness while opposing the ideology of the other and condemning lawlessness.

 

[Auld Phart]

You aren’t “protecting an amendment”, you are choosing to break laws or refusing to recognize them. Just like “sanctuary cities”. The only difference is…well, you support the ideology of the one and applaud lawlessness while opposing the ideology of the other and condemning lawlessness.

"Give me your tired, your poor" is an inscription on the Statue of Liberty.
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms" is a part of the Constitution.

 

[Coyote]

"Give me your tired, your poor" is an inscription on the Statue of Liberty.
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms" is a part of the Constitution.

Cute, but irrelevant. No right is unlimited. You support entities who openly defy (break) laws you disapprove of while condemning other entities who do so for laws they disapprove of. How do you keep it straight?

 

[Auld Phart]

Cute, but irrelevant. No right is unlimited. You support entities who openly defy (break) laws you disapprove of while condemning other entities who do so for laws they disapprove of. How do you keep it straight?

does state law take precedence over federal law?

California does, NYC does. they continuously enact laws they know are in violation of the law.

what makes them so LIBERAL with their understanding of Constitution?
Ignorance?
Stupidity?

 

[Coyote]

does state law take precedence over federal law?

California does, NYC does. they continuously enact laws they know are in violation of the law.

what makes them so LIBERAL with their understanding of Constitution?
Ignorance?
Stupidity?

Are we a nation of laws?

 

[Auld Phart]

Are we a nation of laws?

yes

do laws imposed by San Francisco supersede the Constitution?

do laws imposed by the state of NY supersede the Constitution?

 

[Coyote]

yes

Ok then. Why are you picking and choosing? Why are you ok with 2a sanctuary cities but not ok with immigration sanctuary cities?

Again: no Constitutional right is unlimited, we are supposed to be a nation of laws correct? Why are you picking and choosing what lawlessness you choose to support and condemning those who pick and choose differently?

 

[Auld Phart]

Ok then. Why are you picking and choosing? Why are you ok with 2a sanctuary cities but not ok with immigration sanctuary cities?

Again: no Constitutional right is unlimited, we are supposed to be a nation of laws correct? Why are you picking and choosing what lawlessness you choose to support and condemning those who pick and choose differently?

immigration sanctuary cities?

Ok then. Why are you picking and choosing? Why are you ok with 2a sanctuary cities but not ok with immigration sanctuary cities?

Again: no Constitutional right is unlimited, we are supposed to be a nation of laws correct? Why are you picking and choosing what lawlessness you choose to support and condemning those who pick and choose differently?

but not ok with immigration sanctuary cities?

immigration I have no problem with, illegal immigration is people breaking the law.

now, WHY would I have a problem harboring people that break the law?

 

[Road Runner]

So why do you have an issue with “sanctuary cities”?

Maybe because they're allowing illegal immigrants to be housed?

Same reason there were abolitionists before the Civil War.

No it isn't.

You aren’t “protecting an amendment”, you are choosing to break laws or refusing to recognize them. Just like “sanctuary cities”. The only difference is…well, you support the ideology of the one and applaud lawlessness while opposing the ideology of the other and condemning lawlessness.

Are you even aware of the second amendment?

Cute, but irrelevant. No right is unlimited. You support entities who openly defy (break) laws you disapprove of while condemning other entities who do so for laws they disapprove of. How do you keep it straight?

So if somebody was pointing a gun at you would you still disapprove of the second amendment?

Ok then. Why are you picking and choosing? Why are you ok with 2a sanctuary cities but not ok with immigration sanctuary cities?

Again: no Constitutional right is unlimited, we are supposed to be a nation of laws correct? Why are you picking and choosing what lawlessness you choose to support and condemning those who pick and choose differently?

You're a nice person and all but I really don't understand your logic.

 

[Road Runner]

immigration I have no problem with, illegal immigration is people breaking the law.

now, WHY would I have a problem harboring people that break the law?

You know the fact that she's a mod talking like this scares me. That, and she's giving me reason to believe that she's housing illegal immigrants.

 

[Coyote]

immigration I have no problem with, illegal immigration is people breaking the law.

now, WHY would I have a problem harboring people that break the law?

2A “sanctuaries” essentially pass resolutions stating they won’t enforce state gun. Sanctuary cities pass resolutions stating they won’t enforce immigration laws.

Both refuse to enforce laws and support people breaking the law.

Why DON’T you have a problem with both?

 

[Coyote]

You know the fact that she's a mod talking like this scares me. That, and she's giving me reason to believe that she's housing illegal immigrants.

The only illegal immigrants I house are mice, but the cat’s on it.

 

[Moonglow]

Maybe because they're allowing illegal immigrants to be housed?



No it isn't.



Are you even aware of the second amendment?




So if somebody was pointing a gun at you would you still disapprove of the second amendment?



You're a nice person and all but I really don't understand your logic.

What is the tradition of the Bible and how do they treat foreigners in their nation?

 

[Road Runner]

The only illegal immigrants I house are mice, but the cat’s on it.

Then why aren't you more concerned about the illegal aliens in our country are.. ILLEGAL!? If they were legal then nobody would care but all you do is defend them.

 

[Road Runner]

What is the tradition of the Bible and how do they treat foreigners in their nation?

I don't know I don't know the Bible all that much.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

2A “sanctuaries” essentially pass resolutions stating they won’t enforce state gun. Sanctuary cities pass resolutions stating they won’t enforce immigration laws.

Both refuse to enforce laws and support people breaking the law.

Why DON’T you have a problem with both?

Sanctuary cities are worse than you let on.

 

[Coyote]

Maybe because they're allowing illegal immigrants to be housed?



No it isn't.



Are you even aware of the second amendment?




So if somebody was pointing a gun at you would you still disapprove of the second amendment?



You're a nice person and all but I really don't understand your logic.

Ok, most of what you are saying is not really relevant.

No right is unlimited. That is a fact. So we have a body of law that has passed Constitutional challenges which we are supposed to obey. Correct?

2A sanctuary sites refuse to enforce laws passed regarding guns.

Immigration sanctuary sites refuse to enforce laws passed regarding immigration.

That’s what they do.

So why do support breaking laws in one case and not the other?

 

[Auld Phart]

2A “sanctuaries” essentially pass resolutions stating they won’t enforce state gun. Sanctuary cities pass resolutions stating they won’t enforce immigration laws.

Both refuse to enforce laws and support people breaking the law.

Why DON’T you have a problem with both?

"2A “sanctuaries” essentially pass resolutions stating they won’t enforce state gun laws."

a right guaranteed in the Constitution.

"Sanctuary cities pass resolutions stating they won’t enforce immigration laws."

meaning they have no problem harboring criminals as defined by federal law

same reason I approve of the death penalty, but abortion only in specific instances.

Death penalty--found guilty by a judge and jury (usually 13 people)

Abortion-- fetus found guilty by mother and doctor.

 

[Road Runner]

Ok, most of what you are saying is not really relevant.

No right is unlimited. That is a fact. So we have a body of law that has passed Constitutional challenges which we are supposed to obey. Correct?

2A sanctuary sites refuse to enforce laws passed regarding guns.

Immigration sanctuary sites refuse to enforce laws passed regarding immigration.

That’s what they do.

So why do support breaking laws in one case and not the other?

How does any of this have anything to do with the second amendment is my question.