What's missing in the health care debate?

[Woodznutz]

Lots of ink on health insurance, more on healthcare.
Where does health factor into the discussion.

 

[Blaster]

Lots of ink on health insurance, more on healthcare.
Where does health factor into the discussion.

Too many obese and drug addicted folks.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The utter lack of any Republican plans.

 

[Woodznutz]

The utter lack of any Republican plans.

As a conservative my plan is to take care of my health (liberals are a sickly lot). Seems to be working.

 

[Oddball]

What's missing in the health care debate?​

The discussion as to whether any gubmint should be involved at all, and how that involvement to this point has actually made things worse.

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[Crepitus]

Too many obese and drug addicted folks.

Damn republicans...

 

[Crepitus]

What's missing in the health care debate?​

The "care" part.

 

[Woodznutz]

Damn republicans...

Naw, four of five are liberals.

 

[Maxdeath]

Really the difference between being a responsible adult or a irresponsible child expecting the government to be your parent and provide for you.

 

[Woodznutz]

The "care" part.

Common sense is missing.

 

[Darkwind]

The utter lack of any Republican plans.

There is a Republican plan.

Take care of your own life and leave the rest of us the **** alone.

 

[Oddball]

The utter lack of any Republican plans.

Who needs a plan from people who can't even deliver the mail without losing hundreds of billions?

 

[dblack]

What's missing in the health care debate?​

The discussion as to whether any gubmint should be involved at all, and how that involvement to this point has actually made things worse.

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Yup. It really comes down to our conception of the purpose of government. Some people think it's a tool to make other people do what you want.

 

[dblack]

The "care" part.

Only the government can "care", eh?

 

[Oddball]

The "care" part.

You want everyone else do your "caring" for you, at the point of a gun.

So spare us the glare of your virtue beacon.

 

[Woodznutz]

Who needs a plan from people who can't even deliver the mail without losing hundreds of billions?

Raising the fees on advertisers would help. The USPS gives bulk rates to advertisers who flood the system with ads that most people immediately toss in the trash. The system is also flooded with mail from numerous charities greatly increasing the workload of carriers. They too receive bulk rates.

 

[dblack]

Raising the fees on advertisers would help. The USPS gives bulk rates to advertisers who flood the system with ads that most people immediately toss in the trash. The system is also flooded with mail from numerous charities greatly increasing the workload of carriers.

 

[Oddball]

Raising the fees on advertisers would help. The USPS gives bulk rates to advertisers who flood the system with ads that most people immediately toss in the trash.

OK, let's take that at face value.

Do you expect that a State run medical care system would be any more efficiently sensitive to market signals than they are here?

The problem is scads of strata of bureaucracy so weighty, that it may well begin forming sedimentary rock....There's no "fix" to that other than removing it.

 

[Woodznutz]

Sorry you missed it.
See post #12.

 

[Woodznutz]

OK, let's take that at face value.

Do you expect that a State run medical care system would be any more efficiently sensitive to market signals than they are here?

The problem is scads of strata of bureaucracy so weighty, that it may well begin forming sedimentary rock....There's no "fix" to that other than removing it.

The only fix is better health, not better health care. The government is abysmally ignorant about human health, and the medical/industrial complex is silent on the matter. Even A.I. has to be tortured into revealing the needed knowledge.