What you don't know about the war in Ukraine

[AlexanderPK]

Democracy.

For some known only to them reason they thought they'd wake up the morning after turning to the EU with a €2000 salary but got "democracy" instead. Bummer.

 

[Sonc]

For all Ukraine’s faults, it’s much further along the road to democracy than Russia.

Democracy Index(The Economist)

Said the chief expert on democracy, Ukraine and Russia from .... Baltimore? Dude... how long have you lived in Russia and Ukraine?)))

 

[justoffal]

For all Ukraine’s faults, it’s much further along the road to democracy than Russia.

Democracy Index(The Economist)

Ukraine is hideous on the human rights front dude.

Jo

 

[konradv]

Said the chief expert on democracy, Ukraine and Russia from .... Baltimore? Dude... how long have you lived in Russia and Ukraine?)))

No, said The Economist. You miss that or are you just willfully blind?

 

[konradv]

Ukraine is hideous on the human rights front dude.

And Putin’s Russia? That’s like saying the Pinto is the worst car ever made and ignoring the Yugo! You guys ever think before posting?

 

[justoffal]

And Putin’s Russia? That’s like saying the Pinto is the worst car ever made and ignoring the Yugo! You guys ever think before posting?

Sure I believe you.... Never said it was any different. The problem is here like one poster already explained is that this isn't black hat against white hat. It's black hat against blacker hat. The Ukrainian people are the ones in the middle and the powers on either side of them are more concerned with geography and greed than they are with the actual people.

 

[Ringo]

And Putin’s Russia?

You can't even compare. There is a real fascist dictatorship in Ukraine. Why don't you know that? Ask your media and those who manage it

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

You'd have to be pretty dumb to think the Ukrainians are the good guys in a black and white situation.

They're killing Russians. That makes them the good guys no matter what.

 

[Ringo]

They're killing Russians. That makes them the good guys no matter what.

It is interesting to see how the conflict in Ukraine (provoked and organized by the West) allowed the long-hidden nazi russophobia to emerge in mass.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

It is interesting to see how the conflict in Ukraine (provoked and organized by the West) allowed the long-hidden nazi russophobia to emerge in mass.

Ill wear that name a badge of honor...lol

 

[CrusaderFrank]

For all Ukraine’s faults, it’s much further along the road to democracy than Russia.

Democracy Index(The Economist)

Way ahead of Canada too now

 

[CrusaderFrank]

True, authoritarians are always threatened by democracy. They prefer people that believe blindly, go to massive rallies and swallow anything they’re told.

2 weeks to bend the curve

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I'm waiting for someone to post the Hindenberg crash with the caption: Ukraine downs Russian aircraft!!

 

[konradv]

I'm waiting for someone to post the Hindenberg crash with the caption: Ukraine downs Russian aircraft!!

I’m waiting for Republicans to act like Republicans.

 

[BS Filter]

Not much different than 80 years ago when Germany and Russia were going at it.

 

[Ringo]

Ill wear that name a badge of honor...lol

Let it be Golden badge

 

[JoeB131]

I actually sat through this whole whine... and um, he leaves a lot of things out, like the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq were UN Sanctioned....

I agree with him that Russians in Donbass have some legitimate complaints... but that really doesn't justify what Putin did.

 

[JoeB131]

What a complete joke. CANADA and Australia are considered "full democracies" while ours is flawed? Oh yeah, Trump was president and that hurt The Economists feelings. So now we put up with everything from the Basement Dummy that you all THOUGHT Trump would do.

Trump became President after losing by 3 million votes. Our democracy is flawed.

 

[Ringo]

I agree with him that Russians in Donbass have some legitimate complaints... but that really doesn't justify what Putin did.

The secret is, Russia fights not Ukraine there, but collective West. For too long, Western politicians have been poking sticks in the den. The bear had no choice but to answer.

 

[JoeB131]

The secret is, Russia fights not Ukraine there, but collective West. For too long, Western politicians have been poking sticks in the den. The bear had no choice but to answer.

sorry, I don't buy that.

If Ukraine wants to join NATO and the EU, it should be able to do so.

I personally think that there should be a redrawing of the map to cede the Donbass and Crimea to Russia, as the people there are Russians, not Ukrainians.

But Russia is attacking the whole country, not just those disputed regions.