Russia Will Nuke Germany & the UK if Ukraine War Continues

[Churchill]

Russia is a Paper Tiger. They're getting their asses kicked by a Country that didn't even have an Army Ten years ago.

With a continuous supply of rockets, missiles, bullets, guns, tanks, aircraft, radar, satellite intelligence from over thirty of the most advanced industrialized economies in the world, you keep overlooking this.

Ukraine experienced socialism for 75 years and they'd rather die than go back to it. That should tell you something.

And yes, Russia is what's left when socialism fails -- A State-Directed Economy. Because they're too stupid to make Capitalsim work.

The Soviet Union was bankrupted by the West, the arms race was designed to crush the USSR. What do you know about living standards in the USSR during the late 60s? Its economy was almost 60% of the US at the time, not bad especially for a nation that was so brutally hurt by the Nazis only twenty years before: 27 million dead.

Bill The Rapist Clinton had a hand in all this. It has to be mentioned that Russia was begging for help from the EU and the USA after the USSR collapsed. The Rapist snubbed them. Bigly. Russia was in bad shape. Their whole, entire system fell apart. People were, literally, starving to death, People who were expecting pensions, Veterans..... Everything that depended on the former USSR -- Was gone.

Yes, all of that was a consequence of the Wests obsession with the arms race, we - economically - destroyed the USSR.

The EU, who has never given a flying **** about anything but themselves as individual Countries told them to suck on it and The Rapist went along with it. Why? Because he is a dimocrap piece of ******* shit. He went for the "Hard Landing" approach. Total stupidity

Man, I thought we were having a rational discussion, I guess I was wrong - wow...

That's how we got Putin. Ever notice that everything wrong with this World and this Country can always be traced back to democrat scum and/or leftism? Think about it. Look it up and tell me I'm wrong. I am not

Republican and Democrat administrations have all followed the same doctrine since the end of WW2, the president changes but not the policies, trump (and arguably Carter) are the only exceptions, so dont be silly.

And OBTW..... Russia's 2nd largest Political Party is the -- Communist Party of the Russian Federation (KPRF)

 

[Ringo]

What are the European NATO countries doing now? They are openly preparing for war with Russia.
Putin once said, “If a fight is inevitable, strike first.” All command centers and decision-making points, military bases, must be destroyed by a nuclear attack.

At the same time, a warning should be issued: in the event of an attack by NATO against russian cities, the european countries that have undertaken such attacks will be destroyed. Russia's 6,000 nuclear warheads confirm this. There are enough for everyone.
If you don't know how to behave differently, you will be destroyed.
The people of Europe must know that their leaders are leading them to collective death.

 

[Churchill]

What are the European NATO countries doing now? They are openly preparing for war with Russia.
Putin once said, “If a fight is inevitable, strike first.” All command centers and decision-making points, military bases, must be destroyed by a nuclear attack.

At the same time, a warning should be issued: in the event of an attack by NATO against russian cities, the european countries that have undertaken such attacks will be destroyed. Russia's 6,000 nuclear warheads confirm this. There are enough for everyone.
If you don't know how to behave differently, you will be destroyed.
The people of Europe must know that their leaders are leading them to collective death.

Indeed, well said.

The obsession over Ukraine is beyond insane. These leaders are steeped in decades of the Truman doctrine, they can't bring themselves to snap out and think rationally.

 

[Ringo]

These leaders are steeped in decades of the Truman doctrine, they can't bring themselves to snap out and think rationally.

Decages of negative selection in European politics have led to scumbags being in charge. The lowest of the low, in every sense of the word, both physically and morally.

 

[kyzr]

Why do I in Britain give a shit about Ukraine? Do you think Ukrainians give a shit about Northern Ireland and other territorial disputes?

So you trust Russia to be a peaceful neighbor Mr. Chamberlain?

Ukraine has strong fascist leanings and since the government was overthrown with US help it has provoked Russia in the belief the US would jump in. It acted like the brat in the playground bullying others because it knew big brother would take care of any response.
Russia said (shortly before the war erupted) that it had no plans to attack Ukraine so long as it agreed to never join NATO, what happened?
Ukraine, the US and EU all refused to even consider that, would not even discuss the issue, so Russia said **** it.

Putin wants to reconstitute the old USSR. You can say that would never happen, but could it, without NATO?

Would the US attack Mexico if it kept insisting to join a Chinese led military alliance and have Chinese missiles and weapons stationed in Mexico when half of Latin America had also already joined? get real man. The Warsaw pact is long gone, time for NATO to go too.

The US will manage our hemisphere militarily. Without the US military Russia would manage their hemisphere militarily.

We were getting lots of natural gas from Russia a few years ago, now we replaced that with more expensive natural gas from the US, totally dumb.

You were buying gas from Russia to fund their military, while we US taxpayers were paying to keep our military in the EU to protect the EU from Russia, since 1945. Trump said "**** that" and told Merkel to stop buying Russian gas. If the EU would pay for their own armies capable of keeping Russia at bay, we'd be more than happy to pull US troops out of the EU.

 

[Churchill]

So you trust Russia to be a peaceful neighbor Mr. Chamberlain?

Sure, people trust the US to be a peaceful neighbor yet they've bombed far more countries than Russia.

Putin wants to reconstitute the old USSR. You can say that would never happen, but could it, without NATO?

No he doesn't he wants NATO to keep away from Russia's border.

The US will manage our hemisphere. Without the US military Russia would manage their hemisphere.

Nobody but the US wants to "manage" other people.

You were buying gas from Russia to fund their military, while we US taxpayers were paying to keep our military in the EU to protect the EU from Russia, since 1945.

And that's my doing?

Trump said "**** that" and told Merkel to stop buying Russian gas. If the EU would pay for their own armies capable of keeping Russia at bay, we'd be more than happy to pull US troops out of the EU.

Russia was already at bay until Ukraine (acting as a proxy for NATO) started to become a military threat.

What would the US do if Mexico wanted to join a new Chinese military alliance with Chinese missiles, airfields, tanks and guns that already included half of Latin America? sit and watch?

 

[Ringo]

What would the US do if Mexico wanted to join a new Chinese military alliance with Chinese missiles, airfields, tanks and guns that already included half of Latin America? sit and watch?

Their brains cannot comprehend such a thought.

 

[Churchill]

Their brains cannot comprehend such a thought.

Yes, I must have asked this question fifty times over the past couple years and I really don't think I ever once got an answer.

 

[kyzr]

Sure, people trust the US to be a peaceful neighbor yet they've bombed far more countries than Russia.
No he doesn't he wants NATO to keep away from Russia's border.

NATO = Hang together or hang separately.

Nobody but the US wants to "manage" other people.

Russia?, China?

Russia was already at bay until Ukraine (acting as a proxy for NATO) started to become a military threat.

You sound like Zavulon. Ukraine wanted independence and got it after the USSR collapsed. No problem. We all even signed the Budapest Memorandum giving Ukraine security guarantees if they gave up their nukes. Then things turned to shit.

What would the US do if Mexico wanted to join a new Chinese military alliance with Chinese missiles, airfields, tanks and guns that already included half of Latin America? sit and watch?

I think you know the answer to that.
My question is why couldn't Putin accept a "no NATO" peace deal?
Because no one trusts anyone, everyone has a thousand years of baggage.

 

[Churchill]

NATO = Hang together or hang separately.

Russia?, China?

You sound like Zavulon. Ukraine wanted independence and got it after the USSR collapsed. No problem. We all even signed the Budapest Memorandum giving Ukraine security guarantees if they gave up their nukes. Then things turned to shit.

I think you know the answer to that.

No I don't know your answer to that, that's why I asked you, to get your answer in your own words. (Don't worry, people never answer it, you won't be alone).

My question is why couldn't Putin accept a "no NATO" peace deal?

No such offer was made, read:

Russia had no dispute with NATO, it had no reason to care what NATO wanted, it was concerned about the loudly announced plans Ukraine was making about joining NATO.

Russia is not beholden to NATO and refuses to allow NATO to dictate to Russia.

Russia said it wanted Ukraine to commit to never joining NATO, why didn't Ukraine agree to that? look what happened. The US (Biden) and NATO absolutely refused to even let Ukraine meet if that was on the agenda, they all refused to meet (go and check if you don't believe me).

Because no one trusts anyone, everyone has a thousand years of baggage.

How many countries have each of the following nations bombed since the end of WW2 say.

China
Russia
America

Then tell me, do we trust the one that has bombed the least or the one has that bombed the most?

?

 

[d0gbreath]

Saber rattling is loud and fun! Russia isn't going to nuke anyone. They know that it would be the last thing that they would ever do.

 

[kyzr]

No I don't know your answer to that, that's why I asked you, to get your answer in your own words. (Don't worry, people never answer it, you won't be alone).

The answer is obvious. Just look at Panama. Look at Cuba. The US has the Monroe Doctrine.
We would expel China from Mexico.

No such offer was made, read: Russia had no dispute with NATO, it had no reason to care what NATO wanted, it was concerned about the loudly announced plans Ukraine was making about joining NATO.
Russia is not beholden to NATO and refuses to allow NATO to dictate to Russia.
Russia said it wanted Ukraine to commit to never joining NATO, why didn't Ukraine agree to that? look what happened. The US (Biden) and NATO absolutely refused to even let Ukraine meet if that was on the agenda, they all refused to meet (go and check if you don't believe me).

Ukraine–NATO relations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

in August 2014 Russia's military invaded eastern Ukraine to support its separatist proxies. Because of this, in December 2014 Ukraine's parliament voted to seek NATO membership, and in 2018 it voted to enshrine this goal in its constitution. NATO condemned Russia's actions and affirmed its support for Ukraine's sovereignty; a few NATO members began helping Ukraine's military of their own accord.
Ukraine has been jerked around by NATO since 2021 because of Putin's "ultimatums". Read the entire wiki article.

How many countries have each of the following nations bombed since the end of WW2 say. China, Russia, America
Then tell me, do we trust the one that has bombed the least or the one has that bombed the most?

You trust the one most trustworthy, the one with the best government

How many countries has China invaded since 1945?

China has been telling the world that its rise will be peaceful because China has never been an aggressor state throughout its long history. As proof, the

www.studycountry.com

Here's a list of all the countries the US has bombed since World War II

The London Economic - From China to Iran, here's the full list of the countries the US has bombed since the Second World War - News

www.thelondoneconomic.com

Tall list of countries Russia has invaded since 1941 drops - GhPage

Russia is the second most powerful country in the world at the moment with reference to its military prowess and arsenal.

www.ghpage.com

 

[Ringo]

in August 2014 Russia's military invaded eastern Ukraine to support its separatist proxies.

It's a lie.

 

[Kondor3]

I don't think the Russians are suicidal... imperialist dogs and sheeple, maybe... but not suicidal...

 

[Woodznutz]

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Buy some books.

I'm actually getting rid of some to free up some space on my bookshelves.

Regarding the trade deficit, we are victims of our own success.

 

[DonGlock26]

Top Putin advisor warns that if the Ukraine war continues like this, Russia will nuke Germany and the UK.

Why does Russia want to kill all those Turks and Pakistanis?

 

[SweetTea]

You'd soon care, the US has the highest par capita consumption, it consumes much more per person than any other country, that's why it imports so much, to feed the greedy American appetite.

That's where this trade "deficit" comes from, other countries consume less, their economies and population are just less greedy so exports from the US can never balance imports into the US.

If that supply dries up life over there sinks like you can't imagine.

They consume less because they have far less money to spend per capita. It isn’t about being greedy, it is about affluence. Many of the left in this country don’t even realize that they are affluent relative to many/most other countries. They figure that not having the most recent iPhone is evidence of being poor.

 

[Woodznutz]

They consume less because they have far less money to spend per capita. It isn’t about being greedy, it is about affluence. Many of the left in this country don’t even realize that they are affluent relative to many/most other countries. They figure that not having the most recent iPhone is evidence of being poor.

American businesses buy lots of imports, not out of greed but of necessity. We don't make many of the products we have come to need. I purchase about $10,000/yr. in supplies and materials for the 50-unit apartment building that I manage. Most of it is imported.

 

[Zebra]

Top Putin advisor warns that if the Ukraine war continues like this, Russia will nuke Germany and the UK.

Sure?

 

[Woodznutz]

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Buy some books.

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The big rat in the woodpile is that there is such a thing as the "exchange rate".

"If we trade with ourselves, we have the money and the goods." A. Lincoln