What Would Disqualify Any Candidate?

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Back in the distant past McGovern was the Dem nominee. He first picked Thomas Eagleton as his VP. It came out Eagleton suffered from depression and had received shock therapy. He was off the ticket within about 48 hours.
Ted Kennedy had planned to run for president several times. Each time his involvement in Chappaquiddick came up and he was removed from consideration.
Gary Hart challenged reporters to find something on him. They found him on his boat Monkey Business with a woman not his wife. He was out.
I mention these because in the old days a politiician was held to a standard higher than "he hasnt been convicted of any crimes yet".
Are we now at the stage where conviction of crimes renders one unfit for office? Or is that even off the table now?
 
I mention these because in the old days a politiician was held to a standard higher than "he hasnt been convicted of any crimes yet".

Nope. They were not held to a higher standard. In actuality, the media was complicit in keeping their affairs and crimes a secret.

Warren G. Harding had an illegitimate child by a mistress, and yet that didn't disqualify him from the Presidency. He wasn't even impeached for it. And don't even mention the Teapot Dome scandal!

John F. Kennedy was boinking everything that cast a shadow, and yet that didn't disqualify him from office.

LBJ had an affair with a media mogul's wife for years. He also had other affairs while in the Senate. He also won his first Senate seat via serious election fraud, and everyone knew it. He actually bragged about it. That didn't prevent him from being elected Senator, or Vice President. And he enjoyed a landslide re-election as President.

Many more examples abound.
 
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Politicians have always been sleazy and corrupt and unfaithful to their wives. Since time immemorial. The Clintons aren't even exceptional in this respect. They are run of the mill.

It is just that in the past, the media would keep their mouths shut about the corruption and scandalous behaviors. Usually because the reporters were in the corner fucking a donkey while the pol was getting head from a hooker as he dictated to the hacks what to say about him in the next day's paper.
 
"A dead hooker or a live boy".

Nowadays, the live boy is okay. Unless you spent your political career excoriating homosexuality for the benefit of the rubes.
 
Eagleton: Being a mental case who might one day have his hand on The Button is still a disqualifier.

Kennedy: Caught with a dead hooker. That rule still applies.

Hart: Hubris. He shouldn't have boasted that he didn't cheat on his wife. He was begging to be caught as a hypocrite.
 
I mention these because in the old days a politiician was held to a standard higher than "he hasnt been convicted of any crimes yet".

Nope. They were not held to a higher standard. In actuality, the media was complicit in keeping their affairs and crimes a secret.

Warren G. Harding had an illegitimate child by a mistress, and yet that didn't disqualify him from the Presidency. He wasn't even impeached for it. And don't even mention the Teapot Dome scandal!

John F. Kennedy was boinking everything that cast a shadow, and yet that didn't disqualify him from office.

LBJ had an affair with a media mogul's wife for years. He also had other affairs while in the Senate. He also won his first Senate seat via serious election fraud, and everyone knew it. He actually bragged about it. That didn't prevent him from being elected Senator, or Vice President. And he enjoyed a landslide re-election as President.

Many more examples abound.
Those were things that werent generally known. And yes the press took the belief that a person's private life was private. But Cleveland nearly lost over a disputed paternity suit when it became public.
No, we are living in different times, as the examples I cited show.
 
I mention these because in the old days a politiician was held to a standard higher than "he hasnt been convicted of any crimes yet".

Nope. They were not held to a higher standard. In actuality, the media was complicit in keeping their affairs and crimes a secret.

Warren G. Harding had an illegitimate child by a mistress, and yet that didn't disqualify him from the Presidency. He wasn't even impeached for it. And don't even mention the Teapot Dome scandal!

John F. Kennedy was boinking everything that cast a shadow, and yet that didn't disqualify him from office.

LBJ had an affair with a media mogul's wife for years. He also had other affairs while in the Senate. He also won his first Senate seat via serious election fraud, and everyone knew it. He actually bragged about it. That didn't prevent him from being elected Senator, or Vice President. And he enjoyed a landslide re-election as President.

Many more examples abound.
Those were things that werent generally known.
That's my point.
 
What Would Disqualify Any Candidate?

A recent poll showed 71% of liberals would want Hillary to continue to run even if the DOJ was presented with enough evidence and indicted her.

Evidently, at least to Liberals, the answer to your question is 'Death'.
 
Eagleton: Being a mental case who might one day have his hand on The Button is still a disqualifier.

Kennedy: Caught with a dead hooker. That rule still applies.

Hart: Hubris. He shouldn't have boasted that he didn't cheat on his wife. He was begging to be caught as a hypocrite.
Eagleton wouldnt have an issue today when mental conditions are considered a disease
Kennedy wasnt caught with a dead hooker
Hart was the first one in part because he dared the press and they werent on his side.
 
Congress has single digit approval, and yet they have more than a 90% re-election rate. Every one of those bastards receives more than 50 percent of the vote come election time, even though we universally hate all of Congress.

You know why?

"All those other fuckers spend too much on pork, but my guy brings home the bacon!"

We do this shit to ourselves. It ain't the Mexicans. All our problems are self-inflicted.
 
What Would Disqualify Any Candidate?

A recent poll showed 71% of liberals would want Hillary to continue to run even if the DOJ was presented with enough evidence and indicted her.

Evidently, at least to Liberals, the answer to your question is 'Death'.
Actually not even that. Recall that in Missouri Mel Carnahan was on the ballot but died in a plane crash. T hat didnt stop Democrats for voting for him and his widow was appointed to his seat.
 
Kennedy wasnt caught with a dead hooker

Teddy left a woman to die in an up-turned car in a water-filled ditch in an attempt to save his political future...and it worked. Today a dead hooker in your bed, as long as you are Slick Willy or Obama, wouldn't stop you from getting elected. Hell, as mentioned, 71% of liberals still want Hillary to run if indicted.
 
Back in the distant past McGovern was the Dem nominee. He first picked Thomas Eagleton as his VP. It came out Eagleton suffered from depression and had received shock therapy. He was off the ticket within about 48 hours.
Ted Kennedy had planned to run for president several times. Each time his involvement in Chappaquiddick came up and he was removed from consideration.
Gary Hart challenged reporters to find something on him. They found him on his boat Monkey Business with a woman not his wife. He was out.
I mention these because in the old days a politiician was held to a standard higher than "he hasnt been convicted of any crimes yet".
Are we now at the stage where conviction of crimes renders one unfit for office? Or is that even off the table now?

That would even be off the table.

Donald Trump companies have been sued for Discrimination in the past and Donald Trump lost and had to pay fines. In the past something like this would have been a red flag but in today time it matter not anymore.

I do not think either political party cares what their candidate did in the past, and the voter in today time does not care if their candidate lack moral values or has been convicted of anything in the past or will be convicted in the short future.

Just my opinion...
 
Sex has always been the domain of tabloids. It was made an issue with Bill Clinton only because there was so much of it and it happened in the White House but it really didn't have any affect on him.

The real stuff that got you ousted used to be getting caught taking a bribe, getting caught cheating in an election, or being a traitor to your country. It was front page news before the internet made us numb to it all. Even this stuff is passe now. Clinton, Bush, and Obama have lowered the standard so far that we are a country of me first and fuck you. Personally, I blame the NWO but even that ideology doesn't explain the degradation of the morality of the people in this country. We are truly fucked.
 
"A dead hooker or a live boy".

Nowadays, the live boy is okay. Unless you spent your political career excoriating homosexuality for the benefit of the rubes.

And even then the live boy might get you a free pass if you switch political parties...
 
Eagleton: Being a mental case who might one day have his hand on The Button is still a disqualifier.

Kennedy: Caught with a dead hooker. That rule still applies.

Hart: Hubris. He shouldn't have boasted that he didn't cheat on his wife. He was begging to be caught as a hypocrite.
Eagleton wouldnt have an issue today when mental conditions are considered a disease
Kennedy wasnt caught with a dead hooker
Hart was the first one in part because he dared the press and they werent on his side.
I know she was a secretary, but she was fooling around with a married man.

You've heard that expression, haven't you? There are only two things which can kill a politician's career. To be caught in bed with a dead hooker or a live boy. Teddy fell into the "dead hooker" category.

And you can't possibly believe that if it was discovered today that Hillary Clinton had received shock therapy you guys wouldn't start three hundred and eighty-six thousand topics about it.

The internet would crash.
 
Eagleton: Being a mental case who might one day have his hand on The Button is still a disqualifier.

Kennedy: Caught with a dead hooker. That rule still applies.

Hart: Hubris. He shouldn't have boasted that he didn't cheat on his wife. He was begging to be caught as a hypocrite.

Clearly you're ignorant of depression as a condition.
 

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