What would a socialist America look like?

[danielpalos]

Social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour, by comparison. Why subsidize venture capitalists with cheap labor; we are not a Third World economy.

I ll Replace the workers with machines and they will get zero. If they want to earn more then they should learn a marketable skill. What social services are you referring to?

You miss the point, right winger; unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed, solves for simple poverty. Capital Must seek gains from Efficiency not Cheap labor in the First World.

I play Left Wing. You miss the point. Take a Finance class. You never answered my question. Uneducated troll.

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment; it is not Only for Labor.

When looking at a manufacturing company what is the most important statistic?

Improve or die?

 

[danielpalos]

Still pushing for unemployment compensation even if you quit a job? Why should other people work to earn money just to have to give it to you? Especially if you are able to work and just quit because you don’t want to work?

And FYI, increasing industrial automation will increase unemployment.

It is about economics, not selfish points of view.

Higher paid labor pays more in taxes and creates more in demand. Unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed, solves simple poverty and is more cost effective than any form of means testing for welfare.

We could be lowering our tax burden by increasing the efficiency of our economy.

Why is it selfish to want to keep the money you earn, but choosing to not work while taking money from workers is somehow being magnanimous?

BLASPHEMY!

Where is your empathy?

Gamers need to have a roof over their heads and food to fuel their online experience.

Look it as being an artist...

We need a Government funded endowment...

We need to embrace their diversity...

nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Higher paid labor, pays more in Taxes and Creates more in Demand.

And increases the cost of whatever they produce. And it is not just those making minimum wage that will cost more. Many years ago, when I was a general manager of a hotel, the minimum wage went up. Our housekeepers started at minimum and received raises after 90 days and then every 6 months if their work was good. Minimum wage went up $0.50 per hour, if I recall. I had around 35 full time housekeepers. They all got a $0.50 raise. Because I could not make the ones who had been there have the same pay as brand new employees. Looking at the numbers now, 35 housekeepers getting half a dollar raise increased payroll by a touch over $3k a month. The annual increase was around $36k.

If the housekeepers are starting at minimum wage now, and are increased to $15 an hour (and the rest get corresponding raises), the monthly payroll will increase by $47k a month. The annual increase in payroll would be $564k. I would have had to raise prices significantly to cover half a million dollars in increases to payroll. And that math does not include anyone but housekeeping. Add in front desk, back office, maintenance, and groundskeepers? YOu are probably looking at between $800k and $1million just for the increase in payroll.

even the dollar menu won't double; nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I ll Replace the workers with machines and they will get zero. If they want to earn more then they should learn a marketable skill. What social services are you referring to?

You miss the point, right winger; unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed, solves for simple poverty. Capital Must seek gains from Efficiency not Cheap labor in the First World.

I play Left Wing. You miss the point. Take a Finance class. You never answered my question. Uneducated troll.

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment; it is not Only for Labor.

When looking at a manufacturing company what is the most important statistic?

Improve or die?

Not a stat. Is it sales, costs, expenses, etc.?

 

[BILLSANDS]

2. Canada — 89.49.
For such a huge nation, Canada only has 35 million citizens, and they are some of the best looked after in the world. Canada's healthcare is what stands it above the rest. Education and opportunity in the country are also impressively strong.

Is being "looked after" what we really want from government?

Quite the idiotic brainwashed spin you have on Good Health Care, cheap college and training, good infrastructure, living wage and vacations. It's called good opportunity, and socialism. Just what the United States doesn't have anymore statistically. Now we have the worst upward Mobility and inequality in the developed world. Thanks to the GOP giveaway to the rich and brainwashing the dupes the last 35 years.

That doesn't really answer the question. Do you think the purpose of government is to take care of you?

Providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

but slavery was? who cares what the constitution said it is 200 years old written by slave owners?

 

[bripat9643]

I think we can all agree that traditional socialism ain't a great thing.

Euro-socialism, on the other hand, is clearly attractive to many.

It now appears that the Right will never, ever see the distinction.
.

Or maybe they just reject it and want nothing to do with it. Importing your own invaders and genocidal birth rates is what the policies lead to. However, the primary problem is of course that everyone has equal voting rights, which leads to crazy choices.

World wars is what nationalism leads to. We still have plenty believing that’s a good idea.

It's what big government leads to.

 

[BILLSANDS]

2. Canada — 89.49.
For such a huge nation, Canada only has 35 million citizens, and they are some of the best looked after in the world. Canada's healthcare is what stands it above the rest. Education and opportunity in the country are also impressively strong.

Is being "looked after" what we really want from government?

Quite the idiotic brainwashed spin you have on Good Health Care, cheap college and training, good infrastructure, living wage and vacations. It's called good opportunity, and socialism. Just what the United States doesn't have anymore statistically. Now we have the worst upward Mobility and inequality in the developed world. Thanks to the GOP giveaway to the rich and brainwashing the dupes the last 35 years.

That doesn't really answer the question. Do you think the purpose of government is to take care of you?

it is everywhere else
Abraham Lincoln > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“The legitimate object of government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done, but can not do at all, or can not so well do, for themselves – in their separate, and individual capacities.”

― Abraham Lincoln

 

[bripat9643]

2. Canada — 89.49.
For such a huge nation, Canada only has 35 million citizens, and they are some of the best looked after in the world. Canada's healthcare is what stands it above the rest. Education and opportunity in the country are also impressively strong.

Is being "looked after" what we really want from government?

Quite the idiotic brainwashed spin you have on Good Health Care, cheap college and training, good infrastructure, living wage and vacations. It's called good opportunity, and socialism. Just what the United States doesn't have anymore statistically. Now we have the worst upward Mobility and inequality in the developed world. Thanks to the GOP giveaway to the rich and brainwashing the dupes the last 35 years.

That doesn't really answer the question. Do you think the purpose of government is to take care of you?

Providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

but slavery was? who cares what the constitution said it is 200 years old written by slave owners?

"Who cares what the constitution says?" Seriously?

 

[BILLSANDS]

I think we can all agree that traditional socialism ain't a great thing.

Euro-socialism, on the other hand, is clearly attractive to many.

It now appears that the Right will never, ever see the distinction.
.

Or maybe they just reject it and want nothing to do with it. Importing your own invaders and genocidal birth rates is what the policies lead to. However, the primary problem is of course that everyone has equal voting rights, which leads to crazy choices.

World wars is what nationalism leads to. We still have plenty believing that’s a good idea.

It's what big government leads to.

big government is a good thing

 

[BILLSANDS]

Is being "looked after" what we really want from government?

Quite the idiotic brainwashed spin you have on Good Health Care, cheap college and training, good infrastructure, living wage and vacations. It's called good opportunity, and socialism. Just what the United States doesn't have anymore statistically. Now we have the worst upward Mobility and inequality in the developed world. Thanks to the GOP giveaway to the rich and brainwashing the dupes the last 35 years.

That doesn't really answer the question. Do you think the purpose of government is to take care of you?

Providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

but slavery was? who cares what the constitution said it is 200 years old written by slave owners?

"Who cares what the constitution says?" Seriously?

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this constitution for the United States of ...

 

[bripat9643]

2. Canada — 89.49.
For such a huge nation, Canada only has 35 million citizens, and they are some of the best looked after in the world. Canada's healthcare is what stands it above the rest. Education and opportunity in the country are also impressively strong.

Is being "looked after" what we really want from government?

Quite the idiotic brainwashed spin you have on Good Health Care, cheap college and training, good infrastructure, living wage and vacations. It's called good opportunity, and socialism. Just what the United States doesn't have anymore statistically. Now we have the worst upward Mobility and inequality in the developed world. Thanks to the GOP giveaway to the rich and brainwashing the dupes the last 35 years.

That doesn't really answer the question. Do you think the purpose of government is to take care of you?

it is everywhere else
Abraham Lincoln > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“The legitimate object of government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done, but can not do at all, or can not so well do, for themselves – in their separate, and individual capacities.”

― Abraham Lincoln

Lincoln was a tyrant who wiped his ass on the Constitution.

 

[bripat9643]

I think we can all agree that traditional socialism ain't a great thing.

Euro-socialism, on the other hand, is clearly attractive to many.

It now appears that the Right will never, ever see the distinction.
.

Or maybe they just reject it and want nothing to do with it. Importing your own invaders and genocidal birth rates is what the policies lead to. However, the primary problem is of course that everyone has equal voting rights, which leads to crazy choices.

World wars is what nationalism leads to. We still have plenty believing that’s a good idea.

It's what big government leads to.

big government is a good thing

What's good about it? Are you too stupid to figure out how to spend your own money?

 

[BILLSANDS]

Is being "looked after" what we really want from government?

Quite the idiotic brainwashed spin you have on Good Health Care, cheap college and training, good infrastructure, living wage and vacations. It's called good opportunity, and socialism. Just what the United States doesn't have anymore statistically. Now we have the worst upward Mobility and inequality in the developed world. Thanks to the GOP giveaway to the rich and brainwashing the dupes the last 35 years.

That doesn't really answer the question. Do you think the purpose of government is to take care of you?

Providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

but slavery was? who cares what the constitution said it is 200 years old written by slave owners?

"Who cares what the constitution says?" Seriously?

i'd burn it and write a new one, and i'd take down all those old statues of slave owners also. linco i'd leave up i admire lincoln he burned the south

 

[bripat9643]

Quite the idiotic brainwashed spin you have on Good Health Care, cheap college and training, good infrastructure, living wage and vacations. It's called good opportunity, and socialism. Just what the United States doesn't have anymore statistically. Now we have the worst upward Mobility and inequality in the developed world. Thanks to the GOP giveaway to the rich and brainwashing the dupes the last 35 years.

That doesn't really answer the question. Do you think the purpose of government is to take care of you?

Providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

but slavery was? who cares what the constitution said it is 200 years old written by slave owners?

"Who cares what the constitution says?" Seriously?

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this constitution for the United States of ...

Who cares what the constitution says?

 

[BILLSANDS]

I think we can all agree that traditional socialism ain't a great thing.

Euro-socialism, on the other hand, is clearly attractive to many.

It now appears that the Right will never, ever see the distinction.
.

Or maybe they just reject it and want nothing to do with it. Importing your own invaders and genocidal birth rates is what the policies lead to. However, the primary problem is of course that everyone has equal voting rights, which leads to crazy choices.

World wars is what nationalism leads to. We still have plenty believing that’s a good idea.

It's what big government leads to.

big government is a good thing

What's good about it? Are you too stupid to figure out how to spend your own money?

A general welfare clause is a section that appeared in many constitutions, as well as in some charters and statutes, which provides that the governing body empowered by the document may enact laws to promote the general welfare of the people, sometimes worded as the public welfare.

 

[BILLSANDS]

I think we can all agree that traditional socialism ain't a great thing.

Euro-socialism, on the other hand, is clearly attractive to many.

It now appears that the Right will never, ever see the distinction.
.

Or maybe they just reject it and want nothing to do with it. Importing your own invaders and genocidal birth rates is what the policies lead to. However, the primary problem is of course that everyone has equal voting rights, which leads to crazy choices.

World wars is what nationalism leads to. We still have plenty believing that’s a good idea.

It's what big government leads to.

big government is a good thing

What's good about it? Are you too stupid to figure out how to spend your own money?

what about people who have no money, the purpose of government is to redistribute wealth

 

[bripat9643]

Quite the idiotic brainwashed spin you have on Good Health Care, cheap college and training, good infrastructure, living wage and vacations. It's called good opportunity, and socialism. Just what the United States doesn't have anymore statistically. Now we have the worst upward Mobility and inequality in the developed world. Thanks to the GOP giveaway to the rich and brainwashing the dupes the last 35 years.

That doesn't really answer the question. Do you think the purpose of government is to take care of you?

Providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

but slavery was? who cares what the constitution said it is 200 years old written by slave owners?

"Who cares what the constitution says?" Seriously?

i'd burn it and write a new one, and i'd take down all those old statues of slave owners also. linco i'd leave up i admire lincoln he burned the south

That's why you should never run for office.

You just admit you admire a tyrant for being a tyrant. Like all leftists, you're a Stalinist douchebag.

 

[bripat9643]

Or maybe they just reject it and want nothing to do with it. Importing your own invaders and genocidal birth rates is what the policies lead to. However, the primary problem is of course that everyone has equal voting rights, which leads to crazy choices.

World wars is what nationalism leads to. We still have plenty believing that’s a good idea.

It's what big government leads to.

big government is a good thing

What's good about it? Are you too stupid to figure out how to spend your own money?

what about people who have no money, the purpose of government is to redistribute wealth

Looting innocent people is definitely not the purpose of government.

 

[bripat9643]

Or maybe they just reject it and want nothing to do with it. Importing your own invaders and genocidal birth rates is what the policies lead to. However, the primary problem is of course that everyone has equal voting rights, which leads to crazy choices.

World wars is what nationalism leads to. We still have plenty believing that’s a good idea.

It's what big government leads to.

big government is a good thing

What's good about it? Are you too stupid to figure out how to spend your own money?

A general welfare clause is a section that appeared in many constitutions, as well as in some charters and statutes, which provides that the governing body empowered by the document may enact laws to promote the general welfare of the people, sometimes worded as the public welfare.

The preamble has no legal force.

 

[BILLSANDS]

World wars is what nationalism leads to. We still have plenty believing that’s a good idea.

It's what big government leads to.

big government is a good thing

What's good about it? Are you too stupid to figure out how to spend your own money?

A general welfare clause is a section that appeared in many constitutions, as well as in some charters and statutes, which provides that the governing body empowered by the document may enact laws to promote the general welfare of the people, sometimes worded as the public welfare.

The preamble has no legal force.

lol you are so predicable all the more reason to scrap it and write a new one

 

[BILLSANDS]

World wars is what nationalism leads to. We still have plenty believing that’s a good idea.

It's what big government leads to.

big government is a good thing

What's good about it? Are you too stupid to figure out how to spend your own money?

A general welfare clause is a section that appeared in many constitutions, as well as in some charters and statutes, which provides that the governing body empowered by the document may enact laws to promote the general welfare of the people, sometimes worded as the public welfare.

The preamble has no legal force.

The Preamble contains no justiciable law; that is, no part of it establishes any legal grant or restriction that can be used to argue for or against the legality of any particular thing.

That said, the Preamble is occasionally cited by courts in support of some contention or another. Perhaps one of the most amusing (from my point of view) is an 1868 case, Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1868), in which the Court used the Preamble, read in conjunction with the preamble to the Articles of Confederation, to conclude that the United States is a "perpetual union" and thus Texas's attempt to secede was legally impossible.
https://www.quora.com/Is-the-preamble-to-the-U-S-Constitution-law