What was the biggest lie that re-elected Obama?

[martinjlm]

The blind trust was his opinion

General Motors has big plans for China. More dealers. More factories. And even strange-looking new models.

It plans to open 600 dealerships in China this year and nearly double the number of cars it builds in China by 2016
GM's big plans for China includes more Cadillac models
Really?
Yea, lets do some more
One condition
you answer the lies that went un vetted about BHO

you owe me two right now

GM is a multinational company. GM is currently in second place in China behind Volkswagen Group of Germany. The Audi division of Volkswagen sells more cars and SUVs in China than they do in Germany. To win in the global automotive market, competitors have to be strong in China, which is now officially the world's largest automobile market.

The plants that GM, Chrysler, (including Jeep....hint-hint), BMW, Ford,Toyota, Honda, etc have built / are building in China are for building vehicles in China to be sold in China. The likelihood that vehicles built by a North American based company will be shipped back to North America is almost nil. Makes no financial sense. On the other hand, the first condition of doing business in the Chinese auto market(didi I mention that it is the world's largest automobile market and growing?) is that you have to A) partner with a local company and B) build product in China or face ridiculous import tariffs.

and your point?
the reply was to the statement Romney lied about GM shipping jobs overseas
not what is smart or not
GM took tax payers wealth and sent it to China brother
bottom line

My point is that the statement in Red is easily disproven. GM has been invested in China for over 20 years. The opposite of your point ( the flow of cash from profits in China back to the US) is clearly documented as one of the strongest points on GM's balance sheet. Saying GM is putting government money into China is as accurate as someone saying that Jeep is moving to China. We all know how long that lie lasted.

 

[Rocko]

The biggest lie was when he was saying Romney wanted to let the auto companies go out of buisness.

 

[JRK]

Job creation?
Saving the Auto industry?
Obama-care being deficit neutral?
That a movie caused the murder of a US ambassador on 9-11-2012?
That he inherited the debt?

Its amazing that people are such a state of denial

The country we loved until 2007 is gone and will never be the same again
Thank you
Reid
Pelosi
Obama

Actually, no, it was that the liberals used the "shiny object syndrome" and the lapdog media to airbrush obama while demonizing his contender, who had far more experience and ability to run the country. It's become very obvious that dems are either stupid or don't care at all about this country.....as long as they get their birth control, abortion, freebies, and making the other guy pay for "their" stuff.

The biggest lie was the one Reps told themselves, that they could win. Time to see the real denial. The country you love? Doesn't include the 50% that don't see everything your way. So who is stupid and who doesn't care about the country. Getting beat under these conditions is a massive failure. By all means keep starting threads that blame everyone else for your inability to compete and get the job done. Obama can sit back and laugh, hone his skills and teach the next generation how to hold power no matter how bad things get.

it has nothing to do with the 50% that dis agree with me
it has everything to do with BHO not being vetted

Compete? that is all I am asking for
W had a story made up about his history within days of the election on 04 (the national guard story)
The media, the post
the times
the ABC, CBS, NBC
none of them have ever vetted BHO
stopped the lies

we spent 100s of billions in stimulus for 200,000 jobs?
he claims millions
has any-one ever from that group said BTW Texas added 1 million to that number alone?
what did BHO do to add those jobs to his number?
without the Oil and Gas we are millions of jobs below 09 numbers, not 200-300k above

How about the GM lie?
the tax payer saved GM as well as GWB (against the peoples will BTW, congress said no)
what about the 100s of thousands of jobs that move cost the south?
you think people stop buying cars because GM goes 7 instead of 11?
they never get out 2008 without GWB, by HIS SELF (with our money)

what about the lie about Medicare and Obama-care?
Obamacare Robs Medicare of $716 Billion to Fund Itself
Last week, a new Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report updated the amount of money Obamacare robs out of Medicare from $500 billion to a whopping $716 billion between 2013 and 2022.
According to the CBO, the payment cuts in Medicare include:
A $260 billion payment cut for hospital services.
A $39 billion payment cut for skilled nursing services.
A $17 billion payment cut for hospice services.
A $66 billion payment cut for home health services.
A $33 billion payment cut for all other services.
A $156 billion cut in payment rates in Medicare Advantage (MA); $156 billion is before considering interactions with other provisions. The House Ways and Means Committee was able to include interactions with other provisions, estimating the cuts to MA to be even higher, coming in at $308 billion.
$56 billion in cuts for disproportionate share hospital (DSH) payments.* DSH payments go to hospitals that serve a large number of low-income patients.
$114 billion in other provisions pertaining to Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP* (does not include coverage-related provisions).
*Subtract $25 billion total between DSH payments and other provisions for spending that was cut from Medicaid and CHIP.
In total, Obamacare raids Medicare by $716 billion from 2013 to 2022. Despite Medicare facing a 75-year unfunded obligation of $37 trillion, Obamacare uses the savings from the cuts to pay for other provisions in Obamacare, not to help shore up Medicare’s finances.

everytime BHO said these lies the post runs front page story correcting him he gets re elected?
really?

Nixon got run out of office covering up watergate
Obama got Sandy praise when he covered the events that left 4 Americans dead at a govt facility. An attack on american soil

That lie goes un vetted
W got the WMD lie when they were WMDs found, the dems voted 29-21 to use force and there was just as many Dems stating Saddam needed to go from the 90s as any-one, voted 100% to do such when Clinton Bombed Iraq in 98

are you serious?

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama used the auto bailout as a campaign issue claiming he was responsible for it when in fact Bush signed the TARP which Obama also blamed on Bush.

So on one hand he takes credit for the bailout, but he won't take the blame for the debt it costs reserving that for Bush.

Ether way, Democrat voters don't care if Obama is lying. It's easy to see that he does so constantly. They just think he was cooler than Romney and who cares if Romney would make a better president.

Ron Paul would make a better president btw.

 

[JoeB131]

The biggest lie was when he was saying Romney wanted to let the auto companies go out of buisness.

You mean pointing out there was an article entitled, "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" by Mitt Romney.

I'm wondering what magic power Obama had to make Romney say and do stupid shit.

 

[JoeB131]

Obama used the auto bailout as a campaign issue claiming he was responsible for it when in fact Bush signed the TARP which Obama also blamed on Bush.

So on one hand he takes credit for the bailout, but he won't take the blame for the debt it costs reserving that for Bush.

Ether way, Democrat voters don't care if Obama is lying. It's easy to see that he does so constantly. They just think he was cooler than Romney and who cares if Romney would make a better president.

Ron Paul would make a better president btw.

Romney wouldn't have been a better president.

He wasn't even a good governor.

 

[CrazedScotsman]

Job creation?
Saving the Auto industry?
Obama-care being deficit neutral?
That a movie caused the murder of a US ambassador on 9-11-2012?
That he inherited the debt?

Its amazing that people are such a state of denial

The country we loved until 2007 is gone and will never be the same again
Thank you
Reid
Pelosi
Obama

The biggest lie was that Old White Republican men where going to climb into women's vaginas and control them like puppets.

 

[Lakhota]

What was the biggest lie that re-elected Obama?

Romney/Ryan was the biggest lie that re-elected Obama.

 

[bripat9643]

Romney wouldn't have been a better president.

He wasn't even a good governor.

A dead carp would make a better president than Obama.

 

[Dr Grump]

He would have gotten trounced but at least there would have been a difference between the two candidates.

So what is the point of running somebody that would have gotten trounced?

Running two statist-corporatist-liberals against each other obviously gives no choice other than party loyalty so at least we woud have had a choice. Of course the media would have been even harder on Santorum because of his conservative social values and belief in God.

no, they would have been hard on him because he represents the fringe of society. People want mainstream. He is not...

 

[Dr Grump]

There is this huge spin going on that the conservatives are out of touch
Our lord and savior loses to the propaganda machine the main stream media has supplied and the no vetting process he got

It's not spin, it's true.

Romney spent more than $76 million in battle ground states and he still didn't win.

The spending race - TV ads in the presidential campaign - The Washington Post

really?
ABC
CBS
NBC
CNN
none of them called out BHO on ANY of his lies one time
Romney would have got it every time

GWB saved GM
(tax payer)
there has been NO jobs created and without the Oil and gas were 3 million less
Last week, a new Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report updated the amount of money Obamacare robs out of Medicare from $500 billion to a whopping $716 billion between 2013 and 2022.
According to the CBO, the payment cuts in Medicare include:
A $260 billion payment cut for hospital services.
A $39 billion payment cut for skilled nursing services.
A $17 billion payment cut for hospice services.
A $66 billion payment cut for home health services.
A $33 billion payment cut for all other services.
A $156 billion cut in payment rates in Medicare Advantage (MA); $156 billion is before considering interactions with other provisions. The House Ways and Means Committee was able to include interactions with other provisions, estimating the cuts to MA to be even higher, coming in at $308 billion.
$56 billion in cuts for disproportionate share hospital (DSH) payments.* DSH payments go to hospitals that serve a large number of low-income patients.
$114 billion in other provisions pertaining to Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP* (does not include coverage-related provisions).
*Subtract $25 billion total between DSH payments and other provisions for spending that was cut from Medicaid and CHIP.
In total, Obamacare raids Medicare by $716 billion from 2013 to 2022. Despite Medicare facing a 75-year unfunded obligation of $37 trillion, Obamacare uses the savings from the cuts to pay for other provisions in Obamacare, not to help shore up Medicare’s finances.
that take scare of Obama care
Obamacare Robs Medicare of $716 Billion to Fund Itself
every time OBAMA lied if the media corrected him? he does not get re elected

he stops lying from the start?
what does he run on?
I mean really?

I created 100,000 jobs with 1 trillion dollars of stimulus?
Thats the truth my friend

All politicians lie, including Romney and Bush....

 

[Dr Grump]

Starting in 1994 we gave the president a surplus.

The economy didn't really start going South till 2007.

There was a drop in the market because of 9/11 but the tax-cuts erased that in 3 years.


Well, the Democrats started fooling with banking rules and made sweeping claims of racism to anyone who didn't start loaning to poor unqualified borrowers. Bush and members of the GOP started telling the Dems that if they didn't do something the economy was going to crash. The Dems started raising hell about the war, screaming about Bush mistreating the troops, mold in showers and peeling paint, no body-armor, up-armored Hummvees, Bush gets the deficit down to $169 billion in 06'. Then the Dems take over and the deficit skyrockets and has stayed above 1 trillion ever since.

I guess you forgot all of that.

The debt from 94 through 07 was nothing
all but 00-02 when Jim Jeffers jumped ship after being elected GOP in 00 in the senate was a GOP congress

from 07 we have added close to 8 trillion dollars in debt sense 07 and have created NO jobs

Chris Dodd and Barney Frank created the rules that set up the banking crash.

There were no controls on Hedgefunders, so when the Fed started getting into the market securing sub-primes we had a crisis that Obama used to usher himself into the White House. So for 4 years he lied and said it was GOP policies that caused it, then he used another crisis (Sandy) to do a photo-op and look presidential, meanwhile the media ignores all of the soldiers being shot in the back of the head in Afghanistan, Fast and Furious, 4 dead diplomats in Benghazi, and the following coverup.

Meanwhile the press attempted to kill Romney every time he opened his mouth even though everything he said was true.

When Obama flip-flops or changes his mind he simply evolved his stance.

When Romney changes his stance it's because he's dishonest.

The biggest lie is that the media isn't biased.

Bullshit. Raygun started it by deruglating building societies and it started from there...

 

[Avorysuds]

Hmm, well the number 1 lie that got Obama re-elected was that Mitt could beat him of course...

 

[USwings]

Job creation?
Saving the Auto industry?
Obama-care being deficit neutral?
That a movie caused the murder of a US ambassador on 9-11-2012?
That he inherited the debt?

Its amazing that people are such a state of denial

The country we loved until 2007 is gone and will never be the same again
Thank you
Reid
Pelosi
Obama

Actually, no, it was that the liberals used the "shiny object syndrome" and the lapdog media to airbrush obama while demonizing his contender, who had far more experience and ability to run the country. It's become very obvious that dems are either stupid or don't care at all about this country.....as long as they get their birth control, abortion, freebies, and making the other guy pay for "their" stuff.

The biggest lie was the one Reps told themselves, that they could win. Time to see the real denial. The country you love? Doesn't include the 50% that don't see everything your way. So who is stupid and who doesn't care about the country. Getting beat under these conditions is a massive failure. By all means keep starting threads that blame everyone else for your inability to compete and get the job done. Obama can sit back and laugh, hone his skills and teach the next generation how to hold power no matter how bad things get.

it has nothing to do with the 50% that dis agree with me
it has everything to do with BHO not being vetted

Compete? that is all I am asking for
W had a story made up about his history within days of the election on 04 (the national guard story)
The media, the post
the times
the ABC, CBS, NBC
none of them have ever vetted BHO
stopped the lies

we spent 100s of billions in stimulus for 200,000 jobs?
he claims millions
has any-one ever from that group said BTW Texas added 1 million to that number alone?
what did BHO do to add those jobs to his number?
without the Oil and Gas we are millions of jobs below 09 numbers, not 200-300k above

How about the GM lie?
the tax payer saved GM as well as GWB (against the peoples will BTW, congress said no)
what about the 100s of thousands of jobs that move cost the south?
you think people stop buying cars because GM goes 7 instead of 11?
they never get out 2008 without GWB, by HIS SELF (with our money)

what about the lie about Medicare and Obama-care?
Obamacare Robs Medicare of $716 Billion to Fund Itself
Last week, a new Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report updated the amount of money Obamacare robs out of Medicare from $500 billion to a whopping $716 billion between 2013 and 2022.
According to the CBO, the payment cuts in Medicare include:
A $260 billion payment cut for hospital services.
A $39 billion payment cut for skilled nursing services.
A $17 billion payment cut for hospice services.
A $66 billion payment cut for home health services.
A $33 billion payment cut for all other services.
A $156 billion cut in payment rates in Medicare Advantage (MA); $156 billion is before considering interactions with other provisions. The House Ways and Means Committee was able to include interactions with other provisions, estimating the cuts to MA to be even higher, coming in at $308 billion.
$56 billion in cuts for disproportionate share hospital (DSH) payments.* DSH payments go to hospitals that serve a large number of low-income patients.
$114 billion in other provisions pertaining to Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP* (does not include coverage-related provisions).
*Subtract $25 billion total between DSH payments and other provisions for spending that was cut from Medicaid and CHIP.
In total, Obamacare raids Medicare by $716 billion from 2013 to 2022. Despite Medicare facing a 75-year unfunded obligation of $37 trillion, Obamacare uses the savings from the cuts to pay for other provisions in Obamacare, not to help shore up Medicare’s finances.

everytime BHO said these lies the post runs front page story correcting him he gets re elected?
really?

Nixon got run out of office covering up watergate
Obama got Sandy praise when he covered the events that left 4 Americans dead at a govt facility. An attack on american soil

That lie goes un vetted
W got the WMD lie when they were WMDs found, the dems voted 29-21 to use force and there was just as many Dems stating Saddam needed to go from the 90s as any-one, voted 100% to do such when Clinton Bombed Iraq in 98

are you serious?

Very, and all that is true ^, and everyday we talk about media bias. Guess what, everybody that cares already knows. Knowing that, it's time to deal with it. If the game is to complain about the media, we are killin it! If it's to win elections and lead the country, well we would rather talk about lies and media bias to each other. So where are the smart people that will get it done, because I don't see it. Republican is a brand, and it's losing customers. So if your looking for someone to blame for things going wrong, you can blame the world for not being fair if you want. It's not new. Time to turn off the talk show hosts, they're hacks, on both sides. Remember why you want a free country, don't write off your neighbor, because if your dream doesn't include them you won't have yours.

 

[SixtyOne]

ROMNEY

Was the biggest lie that got Obama re-elected .....

 

[Lakhota]

Good article...and funny...

2012 Reasons Why Progressives Should Love Right-Wing Media | Alternet

 

[auditor0007]

Job creation?
Saving the Auto industry?
Obama-care being deficit neutral?
That a movie caused the murder of a US ambassador on 9-11-2012?
That he inherited the debt?

Its amazing that people are such a state of denial

The country we loved until 2007 is gone and will never be the same again
Thank you
Reid
Pelosi
Obama

I'm just curious as to what the biggest truth was that Romney fed us. I do realize that if you listened to him enough, you could find a truth at some point because he took both sides of every issue.

 

[Grandma]

I'm with Auditor0007 on this - what TRUTH could have gotten Romney elected?

 

[shintao]

Job creation?
Saving the Auto industry?
Obama-care being deficit neutral?
That a movie caused the murder of a US ambassador on 9-11-2012?
That he inherited the debt?

Its amazing that people are such a state of denial

The country we loved until 2007 is gone and will never be the same again
Thank you
Reid
Pelosi
Obama

Yep, I miss jack booted thugs, the murder, torture & rape of innocent women & children, billions disappearing, bail outs, no bid contracts to Cheneys friends, no speech zones, wire tapping, etc. Geeze, I hope we get back to the good ol days.

 

[shintao]

Romney wouldn't have been a better president.

He wasn't even a good governor.

A dead carp would make a better president than Obama.

All that coming from a dead flounder.