What values does Glenn Beck want to return us to?

[kaz]

Why do people like Glenn Beck, Pat Buchanan, Rush Lmbaugh, etc. scare you leftist socialists so much?

Leave Pat Buchanan out of your list of loony conservative pundits please. And the only reason the loons *scare* me is that they have some mystical ability to draw in way too many people, which speaks to the level of intelligence anymore which is usually accomplished by education and the ability to recognize the difference between fact and embellished fact, or in Beck's case, pure fiction.

What does Glen Beck say that isn't true?

 

[MaggieMae]

I guess you were away, but the last November election resulted in a huge sea change in Congresss.

I better not tell you how that worked out.

To be fair, he didn't know what was going to happen in November back in August.

Why shouldn't he have known? Everyone else did.

Well sheeeeit, you coulda warned the rest of us that all the investment banks were going belly up and tank the whole economy. I mean, seriously?

 

[Lasher]

Yanno, I asked the same thing and never could get an answer from repubs. I think they don't even know what values he represents because when I asked I was told to watch the entire rally to find out. The funny thing about it is they responded over and over to insult people who asked while claiming they didn't have the time to tell anyone what values or what they mean by "taking their country back" or what they were taking it back from

The Teabaggers DO have a tendency to fuck-up, when they come to the end o' their script/talking-points.....



.....but, if it's a LAUGH, you need, they don't COME anymore-qualified than The 'BAGGERS!!

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What little I watched of that video didn't show me anything for those folks to be ashamed of, but it did remind me of Obama's saying there are 57 states in America, and pronouncing "corps" as "corpse." It also brought to mind the videos of the Obamaite talking about getting money from Obama's "stash," and the people who were asked easy questions at polling place and not knowing any of the answers, etc., ad nauseam.

 

[MaggieMae]

Beck's only value is greed.

How so?? Please elaborate. Do you think he shouldn't be paid for working?

Glen Beck is greedy because Salt Jones wants to take his money and he won't give it to him. Can you even imaging anyone more greedy then that?

Who is Salt Jones? Is that code for George Soros? Because we all know Soros runs the country and wants all your money.

 

[Lasher]

Looking at the crowd of the Glenn Beck rally it looked like the population of the US in 1776, white and Christian.
Those white Christians of 1776 had many good values but they did not understand or respect racial diversity. They basically stole the land from the Native Americans. They brought Aficans to America to be slaves.
Our founding Father's understood that was not right and put a structure together to allow us to be more accepting of diversity.

Glenn Beck wants to turn the back the clock and have a society for white Christians. In 1776 there were approximately 5,000,000 US citizens and they were almost all white and Christian. Today there are over 300,000,000 us citizens. The whites are predicted to be a minority by 2025. Our founding Fathers based our country on freedom of religion and many religions flourish in the USA.

Glenn Beck's values do not represent who the USA is today, they represent who the USA was in 1776; a white, Christian society.

Glenn Beck is a paid entertainer. So, 1) who gives a shit what he wants, and 2) why is this in the politics section?

Obviously, all the folks at the rally cared what he wants. Glenn Beck is a political commentator.

 

[Lasher]

He wants us to return to the days of the robber barons were working people were nothing more than a commodity with little to no rights to be used up and spit out.

.....ALL-they-way.......up TO:

Segregation applied equally to both races, and therefore was not discriminatory.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Looking at the crowd of the Glenn Beck rally it looked like the population of the US in 1776, white and Christian.
Those white Christians of 1776 had many good values but they did not understand or respect racial diversity. They basically stole the land from the Native Americans. They brought Aficans to America to be slaves.
Our founding Father's understood that was not right and put a structure together to allow us to be more accepting of diversity.

Glenn Beck wants to turn the back the clock and have a society for white Christians. In 1776 there were approximately 5,000,000 US citizens and they were almost all white and Christian. Today there are over 300,000,000 us citizens. The whites are predicted to be a minority by 2025. Our founding Fathers based our country on freedom of religion and many religions flourish in the USA.

Glenn Beck's values do not represent who the USA is today, they represent who the USA was in 1776; a white, Christian society.

Wow.. how long have you been a petty little hate-monger?

 

[Lasher]

Except that he can never stick to those simple goals, can he... No, he has to go off on conspiracy theories that no one in their right mind can (a) understand, and (b) are completely inaccurate even when you finally do.

Actually, he sticks to them very easily. And he is not difficult to understand, nor has he been very innaccurate.

Last one they complained about what him predicting the riots in Tunisia and Egypt would start cascading chaos through the middle east. Where are we today? Chaos in the middle east.

It's not even like that was a really unlikely prediction either, and they still called him crazy.

Or how about the inflated food prices? Inflation is having a serious effect on food as we speak.

Or maybe that our debt is going to cause some serious long term financial problems. people are still starting to wake up to that.

For someone who is not accurate, he sure as heck gets alot of things dead on.

So you actually think BECK is the one who first predicted protesting across the Mideast? Oh right, sure. But that really isn't his problem. It's the fact that he is under the complete dilusion that Islamofacists will team up with Communists to establish a Caliphate in this country. Seriously? First off, their principles are not the same, and second, by stating such a ridiculous theory, he is basically saying that Americans are downright stupid that, even if true, we couldn't see it coming. So he's calling you stupid.

Second, he tries to hoodwink his adoring audience into believing he has "Christian" moral values, when the man will quickly start in with ad hominem attacks against anyone who DARES to criticize him.

As for his discussions about inflation and the economy, so? Is he the only public voice on those matters and everyone else must have been completely in the dark before His Majesty told them to beware?

It just makes you sick, doesn't it? Why would you even want to watch him?

 

[Lasher]

I can't resist posting Vanity Fair's opinion of Glenn Beck. It's too classic. This is the nicer part.

Like radio god Rush Limbaugh, Beck combines the roles of pedagogue and demagogue into a single luncheon meat, slathered in blather. But where Limbaugh stays on track in the radio studio, taking a single theme and pounding it flat, Beck is a grab-bag collage artist of half-baked ideas and lore, grafting bits of history and chunks of speculation into a clanking Frankenstein monster with Barack Obama’s face sewn onto Karl Marx’s head and one arm raised in permanent Nazi salute—“liberal Fascism” as an evil action figure.

Read More That's Political Entertainment! | Politics | Vanity Fair

Vanity Fair?? Bwahahhaha.

 

[Lasher]

Except that he can never stick to those simple goals, can he... No, he has to go off on conspiracy theories that no one in their right mind can (a) understand, and (b) are completely inaccurate even when you finally do.

Actually, he sticks to them very easily. And he is not difficult to understand, nor has he been very innaccurate.

Last one they complained about what him predicting the riots in Tunisia and Egypt would start cascading chaos through the middle east. Where are we today? Chaos in the middle east.

It's not even like that was a really unlikely prediction either, and they still called him crazy.

Or how about the inflated food prices? Inflation is having a serious effect on food as we speak.

Or maybe that our debt is going to cause some serious long term financial problems. people are still starting to wake up to that.

For someone who is not accurate, he sure as heck gets alot of things dead on.

Avatar, I have respect for you as a poster here but I cant let you say someone hasnt been "very inaccurate". What is that? There is either accurate or inaccurate and you put that qualifier there "very" to make it seem like Beck is a straight-ish shooter.

No one called Beck crazy about the riots, they call him crazy because he's mentally off his rocker

And whoever said Beck wants to return America back to "honor and integrity and smiles and candy" sounds like a kid. You cannot be that guillible, Beck makes money from this, you think he wants partisanship to go away.

It's good that Beck can do so much good informing the country of the dangers of progressivism , and at the same time earn a living for his family, don't you think?

 

[Lasher]

Why do people like Glenn Beck, Pat Buchanan, Rush Lmbaugh, etc. scare you leftist socialists so much?

Leave Pat Buchanan out of your list of loony conservative pundits please. And the only reason the loons *scare* me is that they have some mystical ability to draw in way too many people, which speaks to the level of intelligence anymore which is usually accomplished by education and the ability to recognize the difference between fact and embellished fact, or in Beck's case, pure fiction.

You are really frightened of all the good folks on the conservative band-wagon, aren't you? You can see the end coming for your socialist cause, can't you?

 

[Nosmo King]

Values? Let's talk values.

Which is more precious: human rights or property rights?

If you opt for property rights, what is the end product? An employer can maintain any conditions in his workplace he feels are correct. He can treat labor as a raw commodity and not the community of customers he hopes to serve. Business owners can openly discriminate against anyone they want to. Banks and finance houses can impose any fee or restriction they wish, no matter how unfair and egregious.

Values. It's just this simple.

 

[Nosmo King]

He wants us to return to the days of the robber barons were working people were nothing more than a commodity with little to no rights to be used up and spit out.

.....ALL-they-way.......up TO:

Segregation applied equally to both races, and therefore was not discriminatory.

Not really into logic, are you?

 

[Lasher]

Beck all but admitted he is just out for the money in a Forbes interview.

He tailors his message around his few remaining advertisers.

He misleads his audience with half-truths, lies of omission and wild conspiratorial theories.

... and now he seems to fancy himself as a prophet.

How else would he support his family if he weren't getting paid for doing his job? Get on welfare with all the rest? Tell us some of his half-truths, lies of omission, and wild conspiritorial theories.

 

[Lasher]

To be fair, he didn't know what was going to happen in November back in August.

Why shouldn't he have known? Everyone else did.

Well sheeeeit, you coulda warned the rest of us that all the investment banks were going belly up and tank the whole economy. I mean, seriously?

Did that occur in November? I assumed we were talking about the bath the socialist progressives took at the polls in November.

 

[Lasher]

.....ALL-they-way.......up TO:

Segregation applied equally to both races, and therefore was not discriminatory.

Not really into logic, are you?

Expand on that, please. How do you figure that? It seems what I said was very logical, but you progressive socialists can twist words with the best of them.

 

[whitehall]

Why take the time to analyze the values of Glenn Beck when the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is dragging Americans down the path to 3rd world status? I guess Michael Savage is right, liberalism is a mental illness. The bi-polar angry left spends all it's energy sniping at a FOX news analyist while the late great United States is led by a fool.

 

[MaggieMae]

The one thing MaggieMae and some others keep confusing is that 'conservative' and "Republican" are not synonymous and, while conservatives do agree on the simplest core principle of conservatism which is self governance within the recognition and protection of unalienable rights, there are no two conservatives that agree on the best way or right way to handle every single issue. There are no two conservatives that see every single issue in exactly the same way. Oh yes, there are.

Conservatives can and do disagree and debate each other passionately without abdicating their conservative credentials. Beck and O'Reilly do disagree at times though they are the best of friends and spend a LOT of time together, professionally and socially. No true conservative is going to be assigned talking points to say, be told what to believe, or feel he or she has to march in lockstep with the consensus of the day or the politically correct stance of the day.

People are conservative because they've arrived at a particular point of view and not because they've picked a side or agreed to accept what they've been told.

And even when they disagree they may neither be necessarily wrong,

At least one person who agrees with me on that:

On his radio show Monday, Glenn Beck hit back hard at Bill Kristol over comments Kristol made in a recent column.

"People like Bill Kristol ... I don't think they stand for anything anymore," said Beck. "All they stand for is power. They'll do anything to keep their little fiefdom together, and they'll do anything to keep the Republican power entrenched."

Beck was responding to a Weekly Standard column Kristol recently authored, which said:

When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He's marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.

In my opinion, Beck and Kristol are both advocating reasonable positions. Kristol believes conservatives should back those seeking freedom in the streets, while Beck believes a revolution will most likely lead to Islamists gaining power. Neither of those are absurd opinions -- but they most certainly are emotional.
Glenn Beck Hits Back at Bill Kristol Over Egypt

Why did he find it necessary to "hit hard"?? Why can't Beck be more amenable, at least agreeing to disagree with his own counterparts? Instead he lashes out, as is his style.

 

[Nosmo King]

Segregation applied equally to both races, and therefore was not discriminatory.

Not really into logic, are you?

Expand on that, please. How do you figure that? It seems what I said was very logical, but you progressive socialists can twist words with the best of them.

Segregation is not discrimination. And so we see how neo-Fascists can twist words.

You can bag up all that crap you and the new trolls have been spewing around this board. I'm a Liberal, not a Socialist. Scamper down to your local community college, apply for some classes for your G.E.D. then take Political Science 101 at that same community college. There you will learn things Glenn Beck doesn't even know about!

 

[Ava]

"What values does Glenn Beck want to return us to?"

Common decency, kindness and respect for honor and thoughtfulness. To me, he is a genuine shining example of them all.