What To Expect In 2020.More Fake/Rigged Polls From ABC/CNN/NBC & The Rest?

[busybee01]

The polls were right about Hillary getting millions more votes

Nope.

The polls showed her winning. She lost.

Get a life and let go of that participation trophy.

The polls showed her winning the popular vote and she won that. We also have election results to go with the polls and they are entirely consistent with Trump losing.

 

[busybee01]

Socialized medicine simply won't treat you and since it is run by the government, you have no recourse. If a private insurance company denies care, you at last have the potential for recourse. Your trust in government is misguided. Government can provide some oversght, but should not be running healthcare for everyone.


Not that 80k is some boon, especially if you live in a liberal city/state, but what was that you said about having a 12 incher? Same applies to you.

You don't believe in science. You believe in pseudo science. Get back to me when you have any reasonable explanation regarding the premise of the big bang. I am not even talking about evolution. I am talking about how you evidently believe that something came from nothing. That is quite the non-scientific leap of faith. But you are a lemming. I wouldn't expect anything less.

You are just as extreme. If you had your way, insurance companies would be able to function as they were before Obamacare. Culling the sick from the healthy and charging them huge premiums. Lifetime caps on benefits. These are the very plans that Trump is pushing on Americans. Biden is right to build on the Obamacare model.

 

[SweetTea]

Except that guy in the corner office isn't a bully, in fact, he is the one that is paying you.

Nope, he's still a bully. Most of the bad behavior I've seen from the corner office both personally and to my peers had NOTHING TO DO with whether or not they were doing the job they were paid to do.

If they (rich) are so well off, if the government put more constrains and regulatios on them, including higher taxes, both personal and corporate and add in a weatlh(confiscation) tax too boot, they could shut their business down now and fire you.

Again, buddy, your Stockholm syndrome is kicking in, and you are mistaking parasites for vital organs. We had our greatest prosperity in the period when the Rich paid confiscatory tax rates, 33% of the workforce was unionized and government ran a lot of stuff.

What would you do? Wait on a government job?

Best job I ever had was a government job.

Wait on a government handout?

You see, this is where you are confused. Because the rich have stolen so much of the wealth, too many people ALREADY rely on government handouts.... In short, your greed has made socialism INEVITABLE, because no one is going to watch their children starve so you can pretend you are better.

My ideal world, everyone has a fair remunerative job that pays a living wage. Then you wouldn't need government except for the true charity cases.

Instead, what you have is people busting their asses to merely get access to the middle class, and being one setback away from being poor. If you can't see why that makes people uncomfortable, I'm not sure how much there is to talk to you.

You sure as heck wouldn't start your own business since it would not longer be worth the risk.

I did start my own business in 2010 because the One Percenters used the Recession of 2008 to drive down all our wages.

I just shouldn't have had to, but I'm glad I did, because I do a lot of good with it and help a lot of people.

What would happen to the country? Do you think innovation would suffer? Do you think our government would pick up the slack? Our stock market would crash for sure.

Again, you work on the assumption we have to pander to the rich and their whims because they are holding so many of us hostage... Most of us are sick of that.

One bad enough recession, you'll end up with Commie Bernie.

The US has not had a wealth tax. A wealth tax is unconstitutional. It is absurd. If the US has this type of tax system, I can assure you that the number at which people are susceptable to this tax will inch its way downward. It won't be just for the uber wealthy, it will be for whatever the left deems at too much wealth. The entire idea is a commie as you can get and you seem to support Warren. She will DESTROY our economy, but you don't care because the rich man will get crushed. I have heard justifications from the left for this type of tax that include the idea that because the rich have unrealized capital gains, their wealth grows too much and too fast. In other words, "in theory" this person is worth X if they sold all their assets so we will tax them as if they did. That is one of the most ignorant, elementary things I have ever heard with regards to tax policy. So one year a person would pay this wealth tax on money they don't actually have and the next year their stock values plummet. Do they get a refund? If I own 10000 acres of farm land that was given to me by great, great, great grandfather and they build a mall and nice neighborhoods all around it, increasing the value of my farm land to 50k per acre, should I have to pay 20 million in taxes because my assets are valued at 500 million? How will I come up with this money without selling my farm land? What if sell off enough to pay the 20 million and then the value drops to 5000 per acre because they build landfills all around? What if I can't sell the land? What if I don't want to sell the land? The entire idea is moronic and Communistic and the ONLY reason it has any support is due to envy. People feel that since they will likely never be in that position, lets screws the "rich" guy so I can get mine. It is pathetic.

You need to look up the definition of envy. Democrats are consumed by it.

 

[SweetTea]

The polls were right about Hillary getting millions more votes

Nope.

The polls showed her winning. She lost.

Get a life and let go of that participation trophy.

The polls showed her winning the popular vote and she won that. We also have election results to go with the polls and they are entirely consistent with Trump losing.

Popular vote doesn't matter. The vast majority of the 3 million more votes came from one highly populous leftist state where they have no qualms about illegals voting. Even if it wasn't illegals, we don't care that CA has a bunch more nuts that the rest of the country.

 

[JoeB131]

The US has not had a wealth tax. A wealth tax is unconstitutional. It is absurd. If the US has this type of tax system, I can assure you that the number at which people are susceptable to this tax will inch its way downward. It won't be just for the uber wealthy, it will be for whatever the left deems at too much wealth. The entire idea is a commie as you can get and you seem to support Warren. She will DESTROY our economy, but you don't care because the rich man will get crushed

Guy, the rich paid a 93% top marginal rate from WWII to 1961. We had our greatest prosperity during that time. JFK Dropped the top rate to 70% and ironically, the Republicans said that was fiscally irresponsible. That also turned out to be fine, and we were still very prosperous up until the 1970's. Then Ronnie Ray-gun cut the top rates, almost immediately realized he made a mistake and ran them back up again.

I have heard justifications from the left for this type of tax that include the idea that because the rich have unrealized capital gains, their wealth grows too much and too fast. In other words, "in theory" this person is worth X if they sold all their assets so we will tax them as if they did. That is one of the most ignorant, elementary things I have ever heard with regards to tax policy. So one year a person would pay this wealth tax on money they don't actually have and the next year their stock values plummet. Do they get a refund? If I own 10000 acres of farm land that was given to me by great, great, great grandfather and they build a mall and nice neighborhoods all around it, increasing the value of my farm land to 50k per acre, should I have to pay 20 million in taxes because my assets are valued at 500 million?

Yes. You should. You should pay your fair share.

My family owns a bit of property in Wisconsin, which my Dad paid $800 for in 1949. Today it's worth $700,000, and we are paying all sorts of taxes on it. More every year than Dad originally paid for the property.

The rich need to pay their fair share, just like the rest of us do.

The entire idea is moronic and Communistic and the ONLY reason it has any support is due to envy. People feel that since they will likely never be in that position, lets screws the "rich" guy so I can get mine. It is pathetic.

No, guy, what's pathetic is that we had a fair system before Ronnie Reagan and the Cult of Wealth took over the GOP. before that, the GOP realized the rich needed to pay their fair share. So now we have the majority of the tax burden being shouldered by working folks.

Of course what we should have is an estate tax on the rich.. no reason why the rich should pass on their stolen wealth to even more worthless generations.