What to do with the $800 billion the illegal aliens send home?

[Nostra]

What welfare do they get?

NYC has shelled out $5 BILLION over two years on Tater’s illegals, dumbass.

 

[Nostra]

Illegals are not eligible for food stamps
Some illegals waiting for court dates get some financial aid . Until those court dates those people are legally here.

It isn’t much and it certainly isn’t why they come here

That’s why they give them debit cards instead. It’s still welfare at the expense of working Americans, Simp.

 

[Lesh]

That’s why they give them debit cards instead. It’s still welfare at the expense of working Americans, Simp.

It’s still not enough to draw illegals here

 

[Seymour Flops]

That “fair wage” (well above minimum wage)would put farmers out of business and raise the cost of goods trmendously

So you advocate importing near-slave labor to allow empoyers to violate the minimum wage laws.

You literally want Mexicans to come here so they can continue to be poor for the benefit of fat Americans.

You imagine these are moral/ethical stances that you take?

Why didn't Kamala Harris address the root causes of illegal immigration, one of which is the cartel-owned Mexican economy?

 

[d0gbreath]

Yeah, and a lot of it is under the table - CASH - and they don’t pay a cent in income tax. And they they go home to their wife and two anchor babies, and between the $80,000 they get tax free, the food stamps for theorist kids, and the subsidized housing, they have a FORTUNE to send home.

I thought that you liked rich people? Most of that is in your head, but OK.

 

[d0gbreath]

So you advocate importing near-slave labor to allow empoyers to violate the minimum wage laws.

You literally want Mexicans to come here so they can continue to be poor for the benefit of fat Americans.

You imagine these are moral/ethical stances that you take?

Why didn't Kamala Harris address the root causes of illegal immigration, one of which is the cartel-owned Mexican economy?

Because that is a a different country where we have no say.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Because that is a a different country where we have no say.

Ah!

So, what did she do in this country to address the root causes of illegal immigration?

If it's nothing, you can just say so. She already lost because we already knew it.

 

[d0gbreath]

Ah!

So, what did she do in this country to address the root causes of illegal immigration?

If it's nothing, you can just say so. She already lost because we already knew it.

Joe Biden Administration Deports More Migrants Than Donald Trump's, Hits 10-Year High

Majority of the deportations in the year 2024 involved illegal migrants who were apprehended by border officials compared to those arrested in the country's interior. About 82 per cent of immigrants deported were arrested by border officials.

www.ndtv.com

 

[Seymour Flops]

Joe Biden Administration Deports More Migrants Than Donald Trump's, Hits 10-Year High

Majority of the deportations in the year 2024 involved illegal migrants who were apprehended by border officials compared to those arrested in the country's interior. About 82 per cent of immigrants deported were arrested by border officials.

www.ndtv.com

You know how I know that is fake?

Because if Joe Biden really deported more people than Joe Biden, the Democrats would have forced him off the ticket in favor of the even more radical Kama . . .

Oh, wait . . .

 

[Seymour Flops]

Joe Biden Administration Deports More Migrants Than Donald Trump's, Hits 10-Year High

Majority of the deportations in the year 2024 involved illegal migrants who were apprehended by border officials compared to those arrested in the country's interior. About 82 per cent of immigrants deported were arrested by border officials.

www.ndtv.com

From your link:

Majority of the deportations in the year 2024 involved illegal migrants who were apprehended by border officials compared to those arrested in the country's interior. About 82 per cent of immigrants deported were arrested by border officials.

In other words Joe Biden - not Kamala Harris - decided that during the election cycle, he would allow border patrol to turn back illegals in a stunning change of policy, and then call those turn backs "deportations."

The problem with using sources, instead of outright lying as most Dems on here do, is that your sources can blow up on you.

Leaving the answer to the question of what Harris did to address root causes of illegal immigration still "nothing outside of the U.S." and "nothing inside the U.S."

 

[d0gbreath]

From your link:

Majority of the deportations in the year 2024 involved illegal migrants who were apprehended by border officials compared to those arrested in the country's interior. About 82 per cent of immigrants deported were arrested by border officials.

In other words Joe Biden - not Kamala Harris - decided that during the election cycle, he would allow border patrol to turn back illegals in a stunning change of policy, and then call those turn backs "deportations."

The problem with using sources, instead of outright lying as most Dems on here do, is that your sources can blow up on you.

Leaving the answer to the question of what Harris did to address root causes of illegal immigration still "nothing outside of the U.S." and "nothing inside the U.S."

Chew on this one. This is border czar Harris in action.

U.S. Immigration Officials Deport Record Number of Illegal Migrants

ICE has increased its charter flights returning illegal immigrants to countries including China, Peru and Mexico in recent weeks, with many families among them.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Seymour Flops]

Chew on this one. This is border czar Harris in action.

U.S. Immigration Officials Deport Record Number of Illegal Migrants

ICE has increased its charter flights returning illegal immigrants to countries including China, Peru and Mexico in recent weeks, with many families among them.

www.newsweek.com

That's the same fake story from a different outlet, with the addition of the flights home. Obvious election year maneuveraing. Remember that the claim was that Biden could not act because Congress did not pass his five thousand illegals a day bill. I guess he meant to say "I cannot act because Congress did not let me have five thousand illegals a day, and because the election isn't close enough for me to care."

Harris' name is not in the article. Not that it would matter, since those flights did nothing to address the root causes of illegal immigration.

Next?

 

[d0gbreath]

That's the same fake story from a different outlet, with the addition of the flights home. Obvious election year maneuveraing. Remember that the claim was that Biden could not act because Congress did not pass his five thousand illegals a day bill. I guess he meant to say "I cannot act because Congress did not let me have five thousand illegals a day, and because the election isn't close enough for me to care."

Harris' name is not in the article. Not that it would matter, since those flights did nothing to address the root causes of illegal immigration.

Next?

What are "the root causes of illegal immigration"? If I knew that, I could take care of the problem myself.

 

[Seymour Flops]

What are "the root causes of illegal immigration"? If I knew that, I could take care of the problem myself.

That would be a good question for Kamala Harris, who promised to "address the root causes of illegal immigration."

I know what they are, but you won't accept it from me, so ask the candidate you chose to run against Trump.

 

[d0gbreath]

That would be a good question for Kamala Harris, who promised to "address the root causes of illegal immigration."

I know what they are, but you won't accept it from me, so ask the candidate you chose to run against Trump.

I'd be more than happy to accept them from you. That's why I asked.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I'd be more than happy to accept them from you. That's why I asked.

Well, we'll see.

Poverty in other nations is the biggest root cause. The reason other nations are so much poorer than the U.S. is that they are not enough like the U.S. Most are either mired in socialism like Venezuala, or controlled by drug gangs like Columbia and Mexico.

Others simply have too much corruption under whatever authoritarian regimes control them.

Another cause - and I know you will not accept this one - is the lower average IQ of these nations relative to the U.S. average. There are plenty of people in the U.S. who would love to be government or criminal despots, but the relatively high average IQ of Americans allows us to avoid that.

In African nations, for example, the relative IQ's of the people hover around what used to be called "upper-level retarded," but is now called "intellectually disabled."

IQ: Intelligence quotient by country

A global comparison of intelligence in relation to temperature, income and education expenditures.

www.worlddata.info

So a normal to high normal IQ, which is quite common among Americans would be an extreme outliar in these countries. So those few Africans who have normal to high normal IQ's find it quite easy to take advantage of their low-IQ countrymen. That, or they come to the U.S. escaping the results of low-IQ population.

Nothing to do with race. The average IQ of American blacks, for example, is much higher than for African blacks. When American blacks were encouraged to go to Liberia, a new country founded for them to emmigrate to, they had no trouble becoming dominant over African blacks and their decendants still are.

Of course, all that was true long before Joe Biden created the current border and illegal immigration crises. The root cause of that is as simple as Biden opened the border, started handing out assylum for the asking, including to people who snuck across, and makes no effort to deport even those who lost their assylum hearing.

That is the root cause she could have addressed, if Joe was not to racist and mysogynist to even listen to her.

 

[d0gbreath]

Well, we'll see.

Poverty in other nations is the biggest root cause. The reason other nations are so much poorer than the U.S. is that they are not enough like the U.S. Most are either mired in socialism like Venezuala, or controlled by drug gangs like Columbia and Mexico.

Others simply have too much corruption under whatever authoritarian regimes control them.

Another cause - and I know you will not accept this one - is the lower average IQ of these nations relative to the U.S. average. There are plenty of people in the U.S. who would love to be government or criminal despots, but the relatively high average IQ of Americans allows us to avoid that.

In African nations, for example, the relative IQ's of the people hover around what used to be called "upper-level retarded," but is now called "intellectually disabled."

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IQ: Intelligence quotient by country

A global comparison of intelligence in relation to temperature, income and education expenditures.

www.worlddata.info

So a normal to high normal IQ, which is quite common among Americans would be an extreme outliar in these countries. So those few Africans who have normal to high normal IQ's find it quite easy to take advantage of their low-IQ countrymen. That, or they come to the U.S. escaping the results of low-IQ population.

Nothing to do with race. The average IQ of American blacks, for example, is much higher than for African blacks. When American blacks were encouraged to go to Liberia, a new country founded for them to emmigrate to, they had no trouble becoming dominant over African blacks and their decendants still are.

Of course, all that was true long before Joe Biden created the current border and illegal immigration crises. The root cause of that is as simple as Biden opened the border, started handing out assylum for the asking, including to people who snuck across, and makes no effort to deport even those who lost their assylum hearing.

That is the root cause she could have addressed, if Joe was not to racist and mysogynist to even listen to her.

You started with poverty, which has always been difficult to eradicate in foreign countries. But something can always be done. Then, IQs as a root cause? Kamala Harris failed to raise the IQs of people in foreign countries? I guess she failed on yours too.

 

[Lesh]

So you advocate importing near-slave labor to allow empoyers to violate the minimum wage laws.

You literally want Mexicans to come here so they can continue to be poor for the benefit of fat Americans.

You imagine these are moral/ethical stances that you take?

Why didn't Kamala Harris address the root causes of illegal immigration, one of which is the cartel-owned Mexican economy?

Do I advocate it? Nope. But minimum wage is the reality.

Do you call minimum wage “near slave labor”? Great. Advocate to raise it

 

[Seymour Flops]

You started with poverty, which has always been difficult to eradicate in foreign countries. But something can always be done. Then, IQs as a root cause? Kamala Harris failed to raise the IQs of people in foreign countries? I guess she failed on yours too.

You appear to have missed the point, but unless you are from an African nation, I have to assume that it was deliberate. So you dodged the point, rather than missed it.

I'll repeat myself, since I know that the reality of differential IQ's is a part of reality that sends the left into a tizzy and you may have "stopped reading right there."

As I said:

Of course, all that was true long before Joe Biden created the current border and illegal immigration crises. The root cause of that is as simple as that Biden opened the border, started handing out assylum for the asking, including to people who snuck across, and makes little to no effort to deport even those who lost their assylum hearing.

That is the root cause she could have addressed, if Joe was not too racist and mysogynist to even listen to her.

Why did Harris not simply tell Joe Biden to close the damn border? Or if she did tell him that, why not say so during her presidential campaign?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Do I advocate it? Nope. But minimum wage is the reality.

Do you call minimum wage “near slave labor”? Great. Advocate to raise it

You do advocate it, because you support importing illegal labor to take jobs from Americans.

I advocate that wages be set by the free market, with no interference by an arbitray "minimum wage," which isn't the minimum wage when illegals are willing to work for less. I advocate that free market not being interfered with by deliberately importing peoplw willing to work for extremely low-wages.

Cut off the flow of illegal labor, and legal labor can bargain for a living wage. Yes, farm workers should be paid a living wage, even if it means your beans, rice, and Christmas Tofurkey costs you a little more.

The "near slave labor" comment was meant to trigger you as a liberal. Wages are not paid to slaves, that comparison is left-wing foolishness.