What the Palestinian Authority Thinks Concerning a Palestinians State in the WB

[P F Tinmore]

Whoa, you didn't even come close to answering my question. And then on top of that you have the nerve to say "Why do I always have to look up stuff for you that you should already know?"

Fail

You asked for a link to prove my point and I posted it.

 

[toastman]

Whoa, you didn't even come close to answering my question. And then on top of that you have the nerve to say "Why do I always have to look up stuff for you that you should already know?"

Fail

You asked for a link to prove my point and I posted it.

No you didn't !!! Read my question again

We're talking about acquiring territory

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israeli troops eminated from Israel. They were defending their newly found state (this is not up for debate really. But you're P.f Tinmore, sooo)

At this point, what were the Palestinians defending ?

Israel was cleansing Palestinian civilians from their homes before the start of the 1948 war.

Ya right. Just like you provided the link yesterday how Israel cleansed 300 000 Palestinians Arabs before the war .. Pllleeaasse

So you admit that during the 1948 Arab Israeli war, the Palestinians were not 'defending' , right ?

Keesing's Contemporary Archives in London place the total number of refugees before Israel's independence at 300,000.[64]

1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[P F Tinmore]

Whoa, you didn't even come close to answering my question. And then on top of that you have the nerve to say "Why do I always have to look up stuff for you that you should already know?"

Fail

You asked for a link to prove my point and I posted it.

No you didn't !!! Read my question again

We're talking about acquiring territory

Read my answer again. One of the criteria for a state is a defined territory. Israel did not, and still does not, have any territory.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ok, Tinmore.

You believe that because the Palestinians never ceded land to Israel , that their declaration of independence on the land allotted to them in the 1947 partition plan is illegal and void.

I believe the opposite. You don't believe any of the points I make nor do I of yours , so this argument , as usual, will go nowhere..
Can we just forget it and move on, because there is no chance you will believe any of what I have been saying to you, and vice versa, so what's the point ?
We always end up at a stalemate (even though I think I'm completely right...but then again so do you)

Because the land that was allotted to Israel was never transferred to Israel because the partition plan was never implemented. That land would have been transferred to Israel only if the Palestinians approved. They did not.

Link ?

However, the British did "not feel able to implement" any agreement unless it was acceptable to both the Arabs and the Jews, and asked that the General Assembly provide an alternative implementing authority if that proved to be the case.

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I should charge tuition.

 

[toastman]

Israel was cleansing Palestinian civilians from their homes before the start of the 1948 war.

Ya right. Just like you provided the link yesterday how Israel cleansed 300 000 Palestinians Arabs before the war .. Pllleeaasse

So you admit that during the 1948 Arab Israeli war, the Palestinians were not 'defending' , right ?

Keesing's Contemporary Archives in London place the total number of refugees before Israel's independence at 300,000.[64]

1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting, Where does it say ISrael cleansed 300 000 Palis before the war

 

[toastman]

You asked for a link to prove my point and I posted it.

No you didn't !!! Read my question again

We're talking about acquiring territory

Read my answer again. One of the criteria for a state is a defined territory. Israel did not, and still does not, have any territory.

read my question again, you DID NOT answer it. Where does it say that Israel does not have or had defined territory??? You are just posting a rule and falsely applying it to Israel. Stop pretending like you answered my question

 

[toastman]

Because the land that was allotted to Israel was never transferred to Israel because the partition plan was never implemented. That land would have been transferred to Israel only if the Palestinians approved. They did not.

Link ?

However, the British did "not feel able to implement" any agreement unless it was acceptable to both the Arabs and the Jews, and asked that the General Assembly provide an alternative implementing authority if that proved to be the case.

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I should charge tuition.

Again, where does it say that the Palestinians had to approve of Israels declaration of Independence for it to be legit ??

Once again, you DID NOT answer my question AT ALL, but of course you come out with your snarky 'I should charge tuition' remark lol.

Fail. Fail. FAIL !!

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ya right. Just like you provided the link yesterday how Israel cleansed 300 000 Palestinians Arabs before the war .. Pllleeaasse

So you admit that during the 1948 Arab Israeli war, the Palestinians were not 'defending' , right ?

Keesing's Contemporary Archives in London place the total number of refugees before Israel's independence at 300,000.[64]

1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting, Where does it say ISrael cleansed 300 000 Palis before the war

Oh jees, do you think 300,000 Palestinians just decided to go out for coffee?

 

[toastman]

Keesing's Contemporary Archives in London place the total number of refugees before Israel's independence at 300,000.[64]

1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting, Where does it say ISrael cleansed 300 000 Palis before the war

Oh jees, do you think 300,000 Palestinians just decided to go out for coffee?

Those 300 000 became refugees during the Mandatory Palestine Civil War. Not all of them were expelled.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Interesting, Where does it say ISrael cleansed 300 000 Palis before the war

Oh jees, do you think 300,000 Palestinians just decided to go out for coffee?

Those 300 000 became refugees during the Mandatory Palestine Civil War. Not all of them were expelled.

"Civil war" was an Israeli term.

 

[toastman]

Oh jees, do you think 300,000 Palestinians just decided to go out for coffee?

Those 300 000 became refugees during the Mandatory Palestine Civil War. Not all of them were expelled.

"Civil war" was an Israeli term.

Link ?

 

[toastman]

1947?48 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BTW, I can find plenty of links that refer to it as a civil war as well.

But once again, the great Tinmore thinks he's smarter than the world and would like to call it something else.

 

[José]

1947?48 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BTW, I can find plenty of links that refer to it as a civil war as well.

But once again, the great Tinmore thinks he's smarter than the world and would like to call it something else.

Toastman,

The term "civil war" while technically correct is misleading when applied to the conflicts that preceded the creation of the state of Israel.

The expression civil war conveys the idea of an armed conflict between two groups of native inhabitants of a given territory, country, etc... like the american Civil War or the Russian Revolution.

What happened in Palestine during the first half of the last century was not, by any stretch, a conflict between two indigenous peoples of Palestine. It was an ethnocratic armed conflict between the natives of the land and european settlers trying to establish demographic, political and economic dominance over the natives.

You can call any ethnocratic armed conflict a "civil war" because it's not technically wrong:

The Indian Wars of the 17th century between the english colonists and the american native population.

The first wars between the Dutch and English settlers and the native bantu population of South Africa.

etc, etc, etc...

It's not technically wrong but it's quite misleading.

 

[toastman]

1947?48 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BTW, I can find plenty of links that refer to it as a civil war as well.

But once again, the great Tinmore thinks he's smarter than the world and would like to call it something else.

Toastman,

The term "civil war" while technically correct is misleading when applied to the conflicts that preceded the creation of the state of Israel.

The expression civil war conveys the idea of an armed conflict between two groups of native inhabitants of a given territory, country, etc... like the american Civil War or the Russian Revolution.

What happened in Palestine during the first half of the last century was not, by any stretch, a conflict between two indigenous peoples of Palestine. It was an ethnocratic armed conflict between the natives of the land and european settlers trying to establish demographic, political and economic dominance over the natives.

You can call any ethnocratic armed conflict a "civil war" because it's not technically wrong:

The Indian Wars of the 17th century between the english colonists and the american native population.

The first wars between the Dutch and English settlers and the native bantu population of South Africa.

etc, etc, etc...

It's not technically wrong but it's quite misleading.

I guess you didn't read the article.

The Mandatory Palestine civil war was fought between Jewish RESIDENTS of Palestine who have had presence in the region for just as long as the Palestinian Arabs and the Palestinian Arabs

 

[José]

1947?48 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BTW, I can find plenty of links that refer to it as a civil war as well.

But once again, the great Tinmore thinks he's smarter than the world and would like to call it something else.

Toastman,

The term "civil war" while technically correct is misleading when applied to the conflicts that preceded the creation of the state of Israel.

The expression civil war conveys the idea of an armed conflict between two groups of native inhabitants of a given territory, country, etc... like the american Civil War or the Russian Revolution.

What happened in Palestine during the first half of the last century was not, by any stretch, a conflict between two indigenous peoples of Palestine. It was an ethnocratic armed conflict between the natives of the land and european settlers trying to establish demographic, political and economic dominance over the natives.

You can call any ethnocratic armed conflict a "civil war" because it's not technically wrong:

The Indian Wars of the 17th century between the english colonists and the american native population.

The first wars between the Dutch and English settlers and the native bantu population of South Africa.

etc, etc, etc...

It's not technically wrong but it's quite misleading.

I guess you didn't read the article.

The Mandatory Palestine civil war was fought between Jewish RESIDENTS of Palestine who have had presence in the region for just as long as the Palestinian Arabs and the Palestinian Arabs

Your information is in error.

The armed conflict was fought between the native arab population of Palestine and the askhenazim immigrants/settlers the vast majority of whom had been living in Palestine for just 1, 2 or 3 decades.

 

[P F Tinmore]

1947?48 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BTW, I can find plenty of links that refer to it as a civil war as well.

But once again, the great Tinmore thinks he's smarter than the world and would like to call it something else.

Toastman,

The term "civil war" while technically correct is misleading when applied to the conflicts that preceded the creation of the state of Israel.

The expression civil war conveys the idea of an armed conflict between two groups of native inhabitants of a given territory, country, etc... like the american Civil War or the Russian Revolution.

What happened in Palestine during the first half of the last century was not, by any stretch, a conflict between two indigenous peoples of Palestine. It was an ethnocratic armed conflict between the natives of the land and european settlers trying to establish demographic, political and economic dominance over the natives.

You can call any ethnocratic armed conflict a "civil war" because it's not technically wrong:

The Indian Wars of the 17th century between the english colonists and the american native population.

The first wars between the Dutch and English settlers and the native bantu population of South Africa.

etc, etc, etc...

It's not technically wrong but it's quite misleading.

Thank you, I could have not expressed it better.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Link ?

However, the British did "not feel able to implement" any agreement unless it was acceptable to both the Arabs and the Jews, and asked that the General Assembly provide an alternative implementing authority if that proved to be the case.

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I should charge tuition.

Again, where does it say that the Palestinians had to approve of Israels declaration of Independence for it to be legit ??

Once again, you DID NOT answer my question AT ALL, but of course you come out with your snarky 'I should charge tuition' remark lol.

Fail. Fail. FAIL !!

This post was about Israel's failure to acquire land from resolution 181. It was up to the Palestinians to accept the transfer of Palestinian land to Israel.

 

[toastman]

However, the British did "not feel able to implement" any agreement unless it was acceptable to both the Arabs and the Jews, and asked that the General Assembly provide an alternative implementing authority if that proved to be the case.

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I should charge tuition.

Again, where does it say that the Palestinians had to approve of Israels declaration of Independence for it to be legit ??

Once again, you DID NOT answer my question AT ALL, but of course you come out with your snarky 'I should charge tuition' remark lol.

Fail. Fail. FAIL !!

This post was about Israel's failure to acquire land from resolution 181. It was up to the Palestinians to accept the transfer of Palestinian land to Israel.

No it wasn't.

Show me where it said on Resolution 181 that the Palestinians had to give Israel permission ..... This should be good

 

[toastman]

1947?48 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BTW, I can find plenty of links that refer to it as a civil war as well.

But once again, the great Tinmore thinks he's smarter than the world and would like to call it something else.

Toastman,

The term "civil war" while technically correct is misleading when applied to the conflicts that preceded the creation of the state of Israel.

The expression civil war conveys the idea of an armed conflict between two groups of native inhabitants of a given territory, country, etc... like the american Civil War or the Russian Revolution.

What happened in Palestine during the first half of the last century was not, by any stretch, a conflict between two indigenous peoples of Palestine. It was an ethnocratic armed conflict between the natives of the land and european settlers trying to establish demographic, political and economic dominance over the natives.

You can call any ethnocratic armed conflict a "civil war" because it's not technically wrong:

The Indian Wars of the 17th century between the english colonists and the american native population.

The first wars between the Dutch and English settlers and the native bantu population of South Africa.

etc, etc, etc...

It's not technically wrong but it's quite misleading.

Thank you, I could have not expressed it better.

This period constitutes the first phase of the 1948 Palestine war, during which the Jewish and Arab communities of Palestine, supported by the Arab Liberation Army, clashed while the British, who had the obligation to maintain order,[5][6] organized their withdrawal and intervened only on an occasional basis.

1947?48 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia