What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism pt.2

[SassyIrishLass]

The fascist Trump regime attempts to conceal the truth.

Polly want a cracker? SSDD

 

[1srelluc]

Good, every sane person knew it was rubbish....Sadly that rubbish was funded by the taxpayer.

 

[Crepitus]

I would love to read the article but cannot for some reason. I only see half a page from your link and it will not let me browse any further.

I would love to see all the accounts of right wing violence that has taken so many lives

For example, was George Floyd one of those incidents? If so, why? To my knowledge, there was never any proof that it was racially motivated or that the police officer was trying to murder him. Was Rittenhouse one of those in the article? If so, why? He did not even shoot any black people and there is zero evidence he was a "right winger".

And, I can't recollect any instances that even Legacy media has reported such right wing violence.

Are there any other articles like this or is this the only one?

try this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20250911165140if_/https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/306123.pdf

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

The problem was that they dumped EVERYTHING into the "far right" category that wasnt explicitly democrat, even if it wasnt connected to right wing ideology at all. They also excluded ALL of your parties riots. The staggering amount of assaults and deaths at democrat riots is 1,000 times more than anything the right has ever done.

There were 19 deaths assocciated with the George Floyd riots, and most of those were deaths of the protesters themselves....
And one of the 2 ambush style attacks were committed by right wingers that resulted in the death of 2 security guards.

14 Days Of Protests, 19 Dead

Forbes counts at least 19 dead in two weeks of protests over George Floyd’s death.

www.forbes.com

Not to mention, with protesting, riots are often started by those people that are not even political and do not even vote. They are just either angry, criminals, or looking for a reason to vandalize or be violent.

Well then, why don’t we actually look at some recent examples of political violence?

Solomon Peña – Republican nominee for the 14th district of the New Mexico House in 2022. In Jan 2023 he hired men to shoot at various Democratic politicians in response to his loss in the November election. He was sentenced to 80 years in prison. Trump voter.

David DePape - Attacked Paul Pelosi, and planned to take Nancy Pelosi hostage and interrogate her. Conservatives joked about or downplayed the attack. And while Pelosi did not die, it was still a very serious attack, and a very serious thing he was planning. Republican politicians and conservative outlets (note, these are politicians and right wing media, not random social media posts from nobodies) made light of it. DePape embraced far-right conspiracy theories (QAnon, Pizzagate, Trump’s “stolen election” lie), and posted racist, sexist, antisemitic content online. He also spread COVID-19 vaccine misinformation.Cody Balmer – Charged with the attempted assassination of Josh Shapiro. His brother described him as a political independent until 2024, when he started pushing his family to vote for Donald Trump.

Roy Den Hollander – In July 2020, attempted to assassinate Judge Esther Salas, killing her son instead. In thousands of pages of online writings, he raged against women, feminists, “commies,” and specifically targeted Salas. He volunteered for Trump’s campaign and attacked Obama, Sotomayor, and Hillary Clinton in his writings.

Plot to Kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (2020) – At least half of the suspects were tied to the Wolverine Watchmen, a paramilitary militia. Anger at Whitmer’s COVID-19 measures was one of the motives.

Cesar Altieri Sayoc, Jr. – In 2018, mailed pipe bombs to Democrats including Obama, Biden, and Hillary Clinton. A registered Republican, he attended Trump rallies in a MAGA hat and filled his social media with pro-Trump, anti-liberal, conspiracy-driven posts from places like Infowars.

Vance Boelter – Some conservatives insist he was “a leftist.” Let’s check.

• Claimed “Democrat appointee” to an advisory board? Those boards are nonpartisan and include people of all political views. Being appointed doesn’t make someone aligned with the governor.
• In reality, Boelter was anti-abortion, deeply religious, and registered Republican back in 2004. His roommate said he liked Trump and listened to Infowars. He voted in the March 2024 Republican presidential primary.
• His hit list included abortion providers, pro-choice advocates, and Democratic lawmakers such as Gov. Walz, Angie Craig, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Amy Klobuchar, Tina Smith, and Keith Ellison. These were overwhelmingly Democrats.
• that sound like a leftist to you? He was vehemently anti-LGBTQ and anti-abortion.

You can look up every one of these names and verify their motives and political leanings yourself. There are also more that I can list.

This isn’t to say the left never commits political violence. But it is flat-out false to claim that most political violence comes from the left, or that the right does not commit political violence. What republicans have been saying after the Kirk assassination is clearly a lie, and they are clearly using it in a malicious way to create further divide between Americans.

So these independent studies that have been done that show right wingers commit more political violence than left wingers, are wrong, but the president going on TV, saying that the vast majority of all political violence is done by the left, and without any supporting evidence, and you believe that? This is the problem. You hold the evidence that counters your belief to the highest of standards. But you don't hold your own people to any standard...zero.

It's a complete joke, and all it takes is common sense to know it's an obvious lie when they say it's the left committing all the violence.

You guys need to stop with this idea that all political violence comes from the left. It is clearly wrong and it makes you look stupid. But let me let you in on a secret. All you need to do to win the argument is utter a magical two word sentence. If you do that, you have won the argument and rendered all the evidence presented invalid. Isn't that amazing?

 

[westwall]

It doesn't fit their narrative, so throw the facts away and push the propaganda.

The study, published in 2024 and conducted by the National Institute of Justice, is titled “What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism.” The first words are: “Militant, nationalistic, violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism.”

“Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives,” the study noted. “In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”

Revising history, one piece at a time.

This is, BTW, a common technique used by fascist governments the world over.

MSN

Here is a link to the deleted study

It was a shit study.

 

[Votto]

try this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20250911165140if_/https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/306123.pdf

Yea, I just read through it and they give no examples of the violent incidents they are talking about, although they did describe some of the groups they were looking at, like anarchists.

Anarchists are on the left, not the right. Just look at Antifa to see that.

Sorry, they refuse to mention the incidents that they say took so many lives, incidents I can't ever recall hearing about in Legacy media other than people like you insisting Tyler Robinson was a conservative because he came from a home where his parents were Republicans as they were also Mormons.

Yea, Tyler is definitely not right wing even though loons like yourself insist he was.

 

[Votto]

It was a shit study.

I'm glad they took it down.

 

[Crepitus]

Yea, I just read through it and they give no examples of the violent incidents they are talking about, although they did describe some of the groups they were looking at, like anarchists.

Anarchists are on the left, not the right. Just look at Antifa to see that.

Sorry, they refuse to mention the incidents that they say took so many lives, incidents I can't ever recall hearing about in Legacy media other than people like you insisting Tyler Robinson was a conservative because he came from a home where his parents were Republicans as they were also Mormons.

Yea, Tyler is definitely not right wing even though loons like yourself insist he was.

It's not a list, it's a synopsis.

And yes, he's a MAGAt larvae.

 

[Rawley]

It doesn't fit their narrative, so throw the facts away and push the propaganda.

The study, published in 2024 and conducted by the National Institute of Justice, is titled “What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism.” The first words are: “Militant, nationalistic, violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism.”

“Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives,” the study noted. “In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”

Revising history, one piece at a time.

This is, BTW, a common technique used by fascist governments the world over.

MSN

Here is a link to the deleted study

Were expecting a private text message from them as they clean out Biden's propaganda from gvt servers?

 

[San Souci]

It doesn't fit their narrative, so throw the facts away and push the propaganda.

The study, published in 2024 and conducted by the National Institute of Justice, is titled “What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism.” The first words are: “Militant, nationalistic, violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism.”

“Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives,” the study noted. “In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”

Revising history, one piece at a time.

This is, BTW, a common technique used by fascist governments the world over.

MSN

Here is a link to the deleted study

YOUR side is chanting "Free Luigi". What is HIS claim to fame? He shot a Man in the Back-- This is typical of all lefties-- The 2020 Riots are typical of Lefties-- The Destruction of Tesla Cars is typical of Lefties

 

[buckeye]

It doesn't fit their narrative, so throw the facts away and push the propaganda.

The study, published in 2024 and conducted by the National Institute of Justice, is titled “What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism.” The first words are: “Militant, nationalistic, violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism.”

“Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives,” the study noted. “In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”

Revising history, one piece at a time.

This is, BTW, a common technique used by fascist governments the world over.

MSN

Here is a link to the deleted study

This reminds me of the over million jobs in 2024 alone that Biden lied about creating.

Biden is a liar. He produced plenty of lies and this is just another one. Ridiculous.

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

Yea, I just read through it and they give no examples of the violent incidents they are talking about, although they did describe some of the groups they were looking at, like anarchists.

Anarchists are on the left, not the right. Just look at Antifa to see that.

Sorry, they refuse to mention the incidents that they say took so many lives, incidents I can't ever recall hearing about in Legacy media other than people like you insisting Tyler Robinson was a conservative because he came from a home where his parents were Republicans as they were also Mormons.

Yea, Tyler is definitely not right wing even though loons like yourself insist he was.

The categorization is based on the PIRUS 5 codebook which can be found here:

https://www.start.umd.edu/sites/default/files/files/research/PIRUS%20V5%20Codebook.pdf

There is the coding:
"Did the individual become radicalized as part of a left-wing movement?"

And in the breakdown there is an anarchist option:

https://www.start.umd.edu/data-tools/profiles-individual-radicalization-united-states-pirus

Interactive breakdown is here:

https://www.start.umd.edu/profiles-individual-radicalization-united-states-pirus-keshif

 

[struth]

The fascist Trump regime attempts to conceal the truth.

An out dated study about violence in the 90s isn’t relevant today

Demafasict always want to live in the past and not deal with the realities of the modern times

So backwards

 

[Godboy]

Solomon Peña – Republican nominee for the 14th district of the New Mexico House in 2022. In Jan 2023 he hired men to shoot at various Democratic politicians in response to his loss in the November election. He was sentenced to 80 years in prison. Trump voter.

Thats a personal vendetta. It isnt related to right wing rhetoric.

David DePape - Attacked Paul Pelosi, and planned to take Nancy Pelosi hostage and interrogate her. Conservatives joked about or downplayed the attack. And while Pelosi did not die, it was still a very serious attack, and a very serious thing he was planning. Republican politicians and conservative outlets (note, these are politicians and right wing media, not random social media posts from nobodies) made light of it. DePape embraced far-right conspiracy theories (QAnon, Pizzagate, Trump’s “stolen election” lie), and posted racist, sexist, antisemitic content online. He also spread COVID-19 vaccine misinformation.Cody Balmer – Charged with the attempted assassination of Josh Shapiro. His brother described him as a political independent until 2024, when he started pushing his family to vote for Donald Trump.

That guy was a crazy hippie nudist who was not related to the right wing in the slightest bit.

Roy Den Hollander – In July 2020, attempted to assassinate Judge Esther Salas, killing her son instead. In thousands of pages of online writings, he raged against women, feminists, “commies,” and specifically targeted Salas. He volunteered for Trump’s campaign and attacked Obama, Sotomayor, and Hillary Clinton in his writings.

From wikipedia...

"According to the president of the NCFM, Harry Crouch, and men's rights activist Paul Elam, Den Hollander had been kicked out of the organization after he became enraged that he was not named as a co-counselor in National Coalition for Men v. Selective Service System, a lawsuit filed in 2013."

So it was a personal vendetta and not related to politics

Plot to Kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (2020) – At least half of the suspects were tied to the Wolverine Watchmen, a paramilitary militia. Anger at Whitmer’s COVID-19 measures was one of the motives.

That fake plot was by done the FBI. No one was convicted as a result.

Cesar Altieri Sayoc, Jr. – In 2018, mailed pipe bombs to Democrats including Obama, Biden, and Hillary Clinton. A registered Republican, he attended Trump rallies in a MAGA hat and filled his social media with pro-Trump, anti-liberal, conspiracy-driven posts from places like Infowars.

Never heard of it, but i will just assume that he was in fact an actual right wing extremist.

Vance Boelter – Some conservatives insist he was “a leftist.” Let’s check.

• Claimed “Democrat appointee” to an advisory board? Those boards are nonpartisan and include people of all political views. Being appointed doesn’t make someone aligned with the governor.
• In reality, Boelter was anti-abortion, deeply religious, and registered Republican back in 2004. His roommate said he liked Trump and listened to Infowars. He voted in the March 2024 Republican presidential primary.
• His hit list included abortion providers, pro-choice advocates, and Democratic lawmakers such as Gov. Walz, Angie Craig, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Amy Klobuchar, Tina Smith, and Keith Ellison. These were overwhelmingly Democrats.
• that sound like a leftist to you? He was vehemently anti-LGBTQ and anti-abortion.

Seriously dude? He said he did it at the command of Tim Walz for **** sake. There is no way you will ever connect this to the right.

 

[struth]

Thats a personal vendetta. It isnt related to right wing rhetoric.

That guy was a crazy hippie nudist who was not related to the right wing in the slightest bit.


From wikipedia...

"According to the president of the NCFM, Harry Crouch, and men's rights activist Paul Elam, Den Hollander had been kicked out of the organization after he became enraged that he was not named as a co-counselor in National Coalition for Men v. Selective Service System, a lawsuit filed in 2013."

So it was a personal vendetta and not related to politics

That fake plot was by done the FBI. No one was convicted as a result.

Never heard of it, but i will just assume that he was in fact an actual right wing extremist.

Seriously dude? He said he did it at the command of Tim Walz for **** sake. There is no way you will ever connect this to the right.

Cesar actually never sent an actual bomb to anyone they were fake devices and he never actually harmed anyone

With that said the Trump admin still took it very seriously and prosecuted him to the fullest extent of the law, trump does not take any political violence lightly

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This thread is about political violence, domestic terrorism, and how it relates to what this administration is saying about political violence. Keep up.

Math is violence to IM2.

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

Thats a personal vendetta. It isnt related to right wing rhetoric.

The guy claimed the election was rigged. He was driven by conspiracy theories he had been a victim of election fraud.
After his electoral defeat, Pena falsely claimed the election was rigged and began pressuring members of the Bernalillo County Board of Commissioners not to certify the results. When they refused, Pena recruited Jose Trujillo and Demetrio Trujillo to carry out a series of shootings at the homes of several public officials.

That guy was a crazy hippie nudist who was not related to the right wing in the slightest bit.

I don't disagree that the guy was crazy. A lot of the people that do these kind of things are crazy (just another reason why the President of the United States should not equate the entire left with violence). But he was extremely far right in the leadup to what he did. Here is a snapshot of his blog via the wayback machine:

Voter Fraud

web.archive.org

From wikipedia...

"According to the president of the NCFM, Harry Crouch, and men's rights activist Paul Elam, Den Hollander had been kicked out of the organization after he became enraged that he was not named as a co-counselor in National Coalition for Men v. Selective Service System, a lawsuit filed in 2013."

So it was a personal vendetta and not related to politics

That is very selective. You are talking about the killing of Marc Angelucci, not the killing of Judge Sala's son. Here are some relevant facts regarding the Salas killing:

• Salas had presided over one of Den Hollander’s cases. a 2015 lawsuit challenging the male-only draft. She dismissed part of his case.
• In his writings, he described Salas in racist and misogynistic terms (calling her an “affirmative action case” and attacking her Latina identity).
• His manifesto listed other female judges, politicians, and public figures he wanted to kill (including Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor).
• Den Hollander, who describes himself as a Trump volunteer in his writings, called the judge an “affirmative action” case who affiliated with those who wanted “to convince America that whites, especially white males, were barbarians, and all those of a darker skin complexion were victims.”
• “Female judges didn’t bother me as long as they were middle age or older black ladies,” he writes when discussing a lawsuit he filed that went before Judge Salas, the first hispanic woman appointed a federal judge in New Jersey. “They seemed to have an understanding of how life worked and were not about to be conned by any foot dragging lawyer. Latinas, however, were usually a problem—driven by an inferiority complex."
• He was extremely misogynistic.

Seriously dude? He said he did it at the command of Tim Walz for **** sake. There is no way you will ever connect this to the right.

So if Tyler Robinson were to come out and say that he did it at the command of JD Vance, then does that mean there is no way we could ever connect Robinson to the left? Btw, do you believe that Tim Walz commanded him to do that?

That fake plot was by done the FBI. No one was convicted as a result.

Yes, there were issues around how the informants acted. But ultimately there were only 5 acquittals among the 14 people charged. The rest are serving time. And to be clear, these people were talking and planning to do this before the FBI got involved. Prosecutors showed that the ringleaders (Adam Fox, Barry Croft) repeatedly initiated planning, recruited others, and expressed willingness to use violence.

 

[struth]

The guy claimed the election was rigged. He was driven by conspiracy theories he had been a victim of election fraud.
After his electoral defeat, Pena falsely claimed the election was rigged and began pressuring members of the Bernalillo County Board of Commissioners not to certify the results. When they refused, Pena recruited Jose Trujillo and Demetrio Trujillo to carry out a series of shootings at the homes of several public officials.


I don't disagree that the guy was crazy. A lot of the people that do these kind of things are crazy (just another reason why the President of the United States you equate the entire left with violence). But he was extremely far right in the leadup to what he did. Here is a snapshot of his blog via the wayback machine:

Voter Fraud

web.archive.org

That is very selective. You are talking about the killing of Marc Angelucci, not the killing of Judge Sala's son. Here are some relevant facts regarding the Salas killing:

• Salas had presided over one of Den Hollander’s cases. a 2015 lawsuit challenging the male-only draft. She dismissed part of his case.
• In his writings, he described Salas in racist and misogynistic terms (calling her an “affirmative action case” and attacking her Latina identity).
• His manifesto listed other female judges, politicians, and public figures he wanted to kill (including Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor).
• Den Hollander, who describes himself as a Trump volunteer in his writings, called the judge an “affirmative action” case who affiliated with those who wanted “to convince America that whites, especially white males, were barbarians, and all those of a darker skin complexion were victims.”
• “Female judges didn’t bother me as long as they were middle age or older black ladies,” he writes when discussing a lawsuit he filed that went before Judge Salas, the first hispanic woman appointed a federal judge in New Jersey. “They seemed to have an understanding of how life worked and were not about to be conned by any foot dragging lawyer. Latinas, however, were usually a problem—driven by an inferiority complex."
• He was extremely misogynistic.

So if Tyler Robinson were to come out and say that he did it at the command of JD Vance, then does that mean there is no way we could ever connect Robinson to the left? Btw, do you believe that Tim Walz commanded him to do that?

Yes, there were issues around how the informants acted. But ultimately there were only 5 acquittals among the 14 people charged. The rest are serving time. And to be clear, these people were talking and planning to do this before the FBI got involved. Prosecutors showed that the ringleaders (Adam Fox, Barry Croft) repeatedly initiated planning, recruited others, and expressed willingness to use violence.

Sounds like a radical

Clinton has continued to suggest the 2016 was rigged

 

[Meathead]

It doesn't fit their narrative, so throw the facts away and push the propaganda.

The study, published in 2024 and conducted by the National Institute of Justice, is titled “What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism.” The first words are: “Militant, nationalistic, violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism.”

“Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives,” the study noted. “In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”

Revising history, one piece at a time.

This is, BTW, a common technique used by fascist governments the world over.

MSN

Here is a link to the deleted study

Great link there. WTF?

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

100% true. So true in-fact the DOJ took the information down. I get it. Most of us including myself are hurting that Charlie got assassinated.
Can we "keep it real" going forward. Seriously. Do you know more than the DOJ does?

I keep reading "radical left" is a problem well DOJ disagrees with you

DOJ Quietly Deletes Study After Charlie Kirk's Death That Says Right-Wing Extremists Engage in 'Far More' Political Violence​

"Far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists," an archived version of the study reads​

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DOJ Quietly Deletes Study After Charlie Kirk's Death That Says Right-Wing Extremists Engage in 'Far More' Political Violence Islamist extremists," an archived version of the study reads​