What makes the United States so much better than the rest of the world?

[OldLady]

As I sit here watching the groups of immigrants at the border wall trying to get into the US, I sit here and ask myself, is the US that much better than the rest of the world?

If so, why?

I don't think the US is better, I'm kind of biased though since I'm European. On the other hand my wife's American and she thinks so too. What does that tell you? In my opinion America has one big draw that most other countries don't have. They call it Hollywood and it sells an idea of the US that sadly is as fake as the movies it produces. America is a great country.... if your rich. Most people though aren't rich and when you aren't rich the rest of the Western world scores better in most criteria that one would use to asses how good a country is.

But you can walk here from South and Central America and Mexico. So there's that.

 

[OldLady]

The United States is a caricature of it's former self. It's greatest achievement now is it's continued ability to makes it's population believe that she is still the same old Hot Dogs,Baseball and Apple Pie place that we always thought it was.

To a certain part of the population, it still is exactly that place. It used to be that they were the only ones whose perception mattered. That's no longer the case, but I don't know that it has changed that much for those Americans who hang a flag on their porch just before Memorial Day and leave it all summer.

 

[Doc1]

So the US is the only land of opportunity to be able to contribute to?

Interesting.

The U.S. and European nations tend to be wealthier with higher standards of living compared to the rest of the world.

So the message I'm getting is, people just want money.

Imagine that.

Are the greedy or is that just white American folk who want more money?

Are you serious? Try living without any money; try raising a family without any money. Can you imagine it?

Doesn't mean we HAVE to let them in.

Who said we did? The lack of understanding of basic motivation for most of these immigrants just floors me. That's all I was speaking to.

I don't lack the understanding nor the empathy of what they are running from and running too. It's just not our problem.

 

[forkup]

As I sit here watching the groups of immigrants at the border wall trying to get into the US, I sit here and ask myself, is the US that much better than the rest of the world?

If so, why?

I don't think the US is better, I'm kind of biased though since I'm European. On the other hand my wife's American and she thinks so too. What does that tell you? In my opinion America has one big draw that most other countries don't have. They call it Hollywood and it sells an idea of the US that sadly is as fake as the movies it produces. America is a great country.... if your rich. Most people though aren't rich and when you aren't rich the rest of the Western world scores better in most criteria that one would use to asses how good a country is.

I think it is indisputably better than most of the world. When it comes to other Western nations, it is harder to say. The U.S. probably has among the worst education in the Western world, sadly. It starts to look not-so-great in a number of metrics.

But compared to Haiti, Russia, or the Democratic Republic of Congo? It's an amazing place.

It also scores worse in health care and wage inequality, not to mention gun violence, drug addiction, obesity and a bunch of other criteria. You are right, compared to third world countries the US is a paradise, but I don't think those are the countries one should look to, to determine it's greatness.

 

[forkup]

As I sit here watching the groups of immigrants at the border wall trying to get into the US, I sit here and ask myself, is the US that much better than the rest of the world?

If so, why?

I don't think the US is better, I'm kind of biased though since I'm European. On the other hand my wife's American and she thinks so too. What does that tell you? In my opinion America has one big draw that most other countries don't have. They call it Hollywood and it sells an idea of the US that sadly is as fake as the movies it produces. America is a great country.... if your rich. Most people though aren't rich and when you aren't rich the rest of the Western world scores better in most criteria that one would use to asses how good a country is.

But you can walk here from South and Central America and Mexico. So there's that.

True, one can walk here from places like Syria so we have that.

 

[OldLady]

The U.S. and European nations tend to be wealthier with higher standards of living compared to the rest of the world.

So the message I'm getting is, people just want money.

Imagine that.

Are the greedy or is that just white American folk who want more money?

Are you serious? Try living without any money; try raising a family without any money. Can you imagine it?

Doesn't mean we HAVE to let them in.

Who said we did? The lack of understanding of basic motivation for most of these immigrants just floors me. That's all I was speaking to.

I don't lack the understanding nor the empathy of what they are running from and running too. It's just not our problem.

I'm afraid many people see it as a problem, though.

 

[OldLady]

As I sit here watching the groups of immigrants at the border wall trying to get into the US, I sit here and ask myself, is the US that much better than the rest of the world?

If so, why?

I don't think the US is better, I'm kind of biased though since I'm European. On the other hand my wife's American and she thinks so too. What does that tell you? In my opinion America has one big draw that most other countries don't have. They call it Hollywood and it sells an idea of the US that sadly is as fake as the movies it produces. America is a great country.... if your rich. Most people though aren't rich and when you aren't rich the rest of the Western world scores better in most criteria that one would use to asses how good a country is.

But you can walk here from South and Central America and Mexico. So there's that.

True, one can walk here from places like Syria so we have that.

Since we have admitted 4 Syrians in 2018, I fail to see where that is a talking point here.

 

[Doc1]

So the message I'm getting is, people just want money.

Imagine that.

Are the greedy or is that just white American folk who want more money?

Are you serious? Try living without any money; try raising a family without any money. Can you imagine it?

Doesn't mean we HAVE to let them in.

Who said we did? The lack of understanding of basic motivation for most of these immigrants just floors me. That's all I was speaking to.

I don't lack the understanding nor the empathy of what they are running from and running too. It's just not our problem.

I'm afraid many people see it as a problem, though.

Oh it's a problem, just not ours. Close the border and send them home.

 

[shockedcanadian]

As I sit here watching the groups of immigrants at the border wall trying to get into the US, I sit here and ask myself, is the US that much better than the rest of the world?

If so, why?

Go ask 'em, Votto. You might be surprised the answers you get.

I imagine they will say that they are seeking asylum from persecution.

I reckon coming from the rest of the world, also called a sh#hole by Trump, is persecution enough.

After all, they are not seeking refuge anywhere else, so my only assumption is that the US is the last non-sh@hole in the entire world.

I could write a long speech, but I do that too often. So I will be brief: your Constitution.

Listen to interviews from Bibby of Israel (when interviewed by Levin recently) to new immigrants and former spies who switched sides and moved to America, your Constitution is your lifeblood and it is admired by all liberty loving citizens. In fact, one former KGB said without naming names, that he was outraged at some within America who wish to change your Constitution. It was the primary reason he left the KGB to become an American.

In addition, unlike some countries, you cherish your Constitution and defend it.

 

[forkup]

As I sit here watching the groups of immigrants at the border wall trying to get into the US, I sit here and ask myself, is the US that much better than the rest of the world?

If so, why?

I don't think the US is better, I'm kind of biased though since I'm European. On the other hand my wife's American and she thinks so too. What does that tell you? In my opinion America has one big draw that most other countries don't have. They call it Hollywood and it sells an idea of the US that sadly is as fake as the movies it produces. America is a great country.... if your rich. Most people though aren't rich and when you aren't rich the rest of the Western world scores better in most criteria that one would use to asses how good a country is.

But you can walk here from South and Central America and Mexico. So there's that.

True, one can walk here from places like Syria so we have that.

Since we have admitted 4 Syrians in 2018, I fail to see where that is a talking point here.

I just was drawing the correlation between people walking from south and central America to the US as people walking from Africa to Europe. I think the correlation is apt and I might add the richer countries in Europe in general have a different and more generous take on immigration then America.

 

[Votto]

As I sit here watching the groups of immigrants at the border wall trying to get into the US, I sit here and ask myself, is the US that much better than the rest of the world?

If so, why?

I don't think the US is better, I'm kind of biased though since I'm European. On the other hand my wife's American and she thinks so too. What does that tell you? In my opinion America has one big draw that most other countries don't have. They call it Hollywood and it sells an idea of the US that sadly is as fake as the movies it produces. America is a great country.... if your rich. Most people though aren't rich and when you aren't rich the rest of the Western world scores better in most criteria that one would use to asses how good a country is.

I think it is indisputably better than most of the world. When it comes to other Western nations, it is harder to say. The U.S. probably has among the worst education in the Western world, sadly. It starts to look not-so-great in a number of metrics.

But compared to Haiti, Russia, or the Democratic Republic of Congo? It's an amazing place.

It also scores worse in health care and wage inequality, not to mention gun violence, drug addiction, obesity and a bunch of other criteria. You are right, compared to third world countries the US is a paradise, but I don't think those are the countries one should look to, to determine it's greatness.

Impossible. The US is the only country in the world to turn it's nose up at socialism, and we have Hitler sitting in the Oval Office waiting to suck the brains out of the little immigrant babies.

Yet they still come. How can this be?

 

[forkup]

The U.S. and European nations tend to be wealthier with higher standards of living compared to the rest of the world.

So the message I'm getting is, people just want money.

Imagine that.

Are the greedy or is that just white American folk who want more money?

Are you serious? Try living without any money; try raising a family without any money. Can you imagine it?

Doesn't mean we HAVE to let them in.

Who said we did? The lack of understanding of basic motivation for most of these immigrants just floors me. That's all I was speaking to.

I don't lack the understanding nor the empathy of what they are running from and running too. It's just not our problem.

If you say it's not our problem aren't you then showing a lack of empathy?

 

[forkup]

As I sit here watching the groups of immigrants at the border wall trying to get into the US, I sit here and ask myself, is the US that much better than the rest of the world?

If so, why?

I don't think the US is better, I'm kind of biased though since I'm European. On the other hand my wife's American and she thinks so too. What does that tell you? In my opinion America has one big draw that most other countries don't have. They call it Hollywood and it sells an idea of the US that sadly is as fake as the movies it produces. America is a great country.... if your rich. Most people though aren't rich and when you aren't rich the rest of the Western world scores better in most criteria that one would use to asses how good a country is.

I think it is indisputably better than most of the world. When it comes to other Western nations, it is harder to say. The U.S. probably has among the worst education in the Western world, sadly. It starts to look not-so-great in a number of metrics.

But compared to Haiti, Russia, or the Democratic Republic of Congo? It's an amazing place.

It also scores worse in health care and wage inequality, not to mention gun violence, drug addiction, obesity and a bunch of other criteria. You are right, compared to third world countries the US is a paradise, but I don't think those are the countries one should look to, to determine it's greatness.

Impossible. The US is the only country in the world to turn it's nose up at socialism, and we have Hitler sitting in the Oval Office waiting to suck the brains out of the little immigrant babies.

Yet they still come. How can this be?

Maybe because they believe the American dream thing? You know the thing that statistically is getting rarer and rarer. Btw Dozens Of Countries Take In More Immigrants Per Capita Than The U.S.. This ranks the US as number 65 of net immigration, by your logic are all these countries better?

 

[Votto]

So the message I'm getting is, people just want money.

Imagine that.

Are the greedy or is that just white American folk who want more money?

Are you serious? Try living without any money; try raising a family without any money. Can you imagine it?

Doesn't mean we HAVE to let them in.

Who said we did? The lack of understanding of basic motivation for most of these immigrants just floors me. That's all I was speaking to.

I don't lack the understanding nor the empathy of what they are running from and running too. It's just not our problem.

If you say it's not our problem aren't you then showing a lack of empathy?

What is not my problem? The rest of the world is a sh#hole?

Is it the role of the US to take care of this little blue dot of a sh#hole of socialist governments across the world?

Is immigration a natural right?

What say you?

 

[Votto]

As I sit here watching the groups of immigrants at the border wall trying to get into the US, I sit here and ask myself, is the US that much better than the rest of the world?

If so, why?

I don't think the US is better, I'm kind of biased though since I'm European. On the other hand my wife's American and she thinks so too. What does that tell you? In my opinion America has one big draw that most other countries don't have. They call it Hollywood and it sells an idea of the US that sadly is as fake as the movies it produces. America is a great country.... if your rich. Most people though aren't rich and when you aren't rich the rest of the Western world scores better in most criteria that one would use to asses how good a country is.

I think it is indisputably better than most of the world. When it comes to other Western nations, it is harder to say. The U.S. probably has among the worst education in the Western world, sadly. It starts to look not-so-great in a number of metrics.

But compared to Haiti, Russia, or the Democratic Republic of Congo? It's an amazing place.

It also scores worse in health care and wage inequality, not to mention gun violence, drug addiction, obesity and a bunch of other criteria. You are right, compared to third world countries the US is a paradise, but I don't think those are the countries one should look to, to determine it's greatness.

Impossible. The US is the only country in the world to turn it's nose up at socialism, and we have Hitler sitting in the Oval Office waiting to suck the brains out of the little immigrant babies.

Yet they still come. How can this be?

Maybe because they believe the American dream thing? You know the thing that statistically is getting rarer and rarer. Btw Dozens Of Countries Take In More Immigrants Per Capita Than The U.S.. This ranks the US as number 65 of net immigration, by your logic are all these countries better?

Why then does the Left seek to "transform" the US into just another socialist sh#thole? Is it to help reduce illegal immigration?

 

[Doc1]

So the message I'm getting is, people just want money.

Imagine that.

Are the greedy or is that just white American folk who want more money?

Are you serious? Try living without any money; try raising a family without any money. Can you imagine it?

Doesn't mean we HAVE to let them in.

Who said we did? The lack of understanding of basic motivation for most of these immigrants just floors me. That's all I was speaking to.

I don't lack the understanding nor the empathy of what they are running from and running too. It's just not our problem.

If you say it's not our problem aren't you then showing a lack of empathy?

You're trying to make 1 + 1 =3.

We can't afford to "take in" everyone who wants to come here.

 

[forkup]

Are you serious? Try living without any money; try raising a family without any money. Can you imagine it?

Doesn't mean we HAVE to let them in.

Who said we did? The lack of understanding of basic motivation for most of these immigrants just floors me. That's all I was speaking to.

I don't lack the understanding nor the empathy of what they are running from and running too. It's just not our problem.

If you say it's not our problem aren't you then showing a lack of empathy?

What is not my problem? The rest of the world is a sh#hole?

Is it the role of the US to take care of this little blue dot of a sh#hole of socialist governments across the world?

Is immigration a natural right?

What say you?

Yes it is. People have migrated in search of greener pastures throughout history. Unless you are native American I dare say that the very reason you are American is that immigration IS a natural right.

 

[forkup]

Are you serious? Try living without any money; try raising a family without any money. Can you imagine it?

Doesn't mean we HAVE to let them in.

Who said we did? The lack of understanding of basic motivation for most of these immigrants just floors me. That's all I was speaking to.

I don't lack the understanding nor the empathy of what they are running from and running too. It's just not our problem.

If you say it's not our problem aren't you then showing a lack of empathy?

What is not my problem? The rest of the world is a sh#hole?

Is it the role of the US to take care of this little blue dot of a sh#hole of socialist governments across the world?

Is immigration a natural right?

What say you?

Yes it is. People have migrated in search of greener pastures throughout history. Unless you are native American I dare say that the very reason you are American is that immigration IS a natural right.

 

[harmonica]

well, it's because the founding fathers/immigrants were not from sub-Saharan Africa
they were mostly European/white

 

[Doc1]

Doesn't mean we HAVE to let them in.

Who said we did? The lack of understanding of basic motivation for most of these immigrants just floors me. That's all I was speaking to.

I don't lack the understanding nor the empathy of what they are running from and running too. It's just not our problem.

If you say it's not our problem aren't you then showing a lack of empathy?

What is not my problem? The rest of the world is a sh#hole?

Is it the role of the US to take care of this little blue dot of a sh#hole of socialist governments across the world?

Is immigration a natural right?

What say you?

Yes it is. People have migrated in search of greener pastures throughout history. Unless you are native American I dare say that the very reason you are American is that immigration IS a natural right.

Uh, no. That's why there are borders.
This Continent was "conquered", "rights" had nothing to do with it.